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bluescribbler

(2,113 posts)
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:07 PM Nov 2020

Rude Pundit is not in a forgiving mood. Neither am I.

https://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2020/11/we-need-to-accept-that-at-least-70_9.html



So many times in the last few days, since Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were declared the winners of the presidential race, I've heard someone say that it's fine to be happy, but "we have to grapple with the fact that 70 million still voted for Donald Trump despite everything that we know about him. What are we going to do about that?"

My response is simple: Maybe we just need to accept that at least 70 million Americans are just shitty people. And, frankly, it's on them to change. They're not fucking children. They're adults who made adult decisions. I'm so fucking sick of the infantilization of the Trump voter, the idea that they're these naifs who need to be nurtured into some kind of maturity, that they have fears of the progressive world (even as they benefit from it in many places with expanded Medicaid), that they are uneducated and inundated with bullshit from Fox "news" and its devolved progeny in the nutzoid right-wing media.

Fuck that. They chose this ideology. They chose what to believe. They decided to be a bunch of scabby pricks. They gotta own that shit. Forgiveness is wasted on those who refuse to believe they need to be forgiven. The more charitable of you might be able to do it, but I'm not fuckin' charitable to these goons and freaks and worms. Donald Trump played 'em like a goddamn fiddle. Hell, he's still playin' them, squeezing them for more cash under the umbrella of his bullshit "voter fraud" lawsuits. Until they wake the fuck up or are woken the fuck up, they need to exist as a warning not to let them get more power than they have and to work like hell to take away their remaining power.

It's time to tell Trump voters to spend a little time trying to understand Biden voters so they can see why we fucking kicked Trump's ass.
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Rude Pundit is not in a forgiving mood. Neither am I. (Original Post) bluescribbler Nov 2020 OP
K&R Blue Owl Nov 2020 #1
And I doubt anyone told Trump in 2016 that he had to grapple with the treestar Nov 2020 #2
Cheato tried to claim there were over 3 million fraudulant votes. Darkstar53142 Nov 2020 #62
Yes, another case of Cheeto saying something and his followers treestar Nov 2020 #63
how Rude! k and r. wiggs Nov 2020 #3
His Rudeness is totally spot-on PJMcK Nov 2020 #4
Agree 100% with His Rudeness Merlot Nov 2020 #54
+1000000 onecaliberal Nov 2020 #5
I can attest that the Trumpers I know are INDEED "shitty people" Funtatlaguy Nov 2020 #6
Brainwashed for decades, it is their fault, ultimately, and we try to tell them we know.... Brainfodder Nov 2020 #7
Brainwashing is right. rickyhall Nov 2020 #34
Gentle, but at a distance? Brainfodder Nov 2020 #36
Don't count on them dying helping. soldierant Nov 2020 #46
Oh sure, the family plan, definitely... Brainfodder Nov 2020 #50
Amen. Shitty people who the system is designed to favor! Blasphemer Nov 2020 #8
And the fact that states with low populations get as many Senators as those with Marie Marie Nov 2020 #17
+1. peacebuzzard Nov 2020 #51
EXACTLY ShazzieB Nov 2020 #60
Elections have consequences Generic Brad Nov 2020 #9
As I said, I've gone from kumbaya to Nuremberg trials in the last week soothsayer Nov 2020 #10
Well put. Aussie105 Nov 2020 #12
With ya. cwydro Nov 2020 #27
YES! patricia92243 Nov 2020 #11
Sadly, I agree with the Rudester. AFAIC, only G*d forgives. . . DinahMoeHum Nov 2020 #13
Hear hear! lillypaddle Nov 2020 #14
I have come to the conclusion that 70 million ameriKans are fascist and would follow Hitler yaesu Nov 2020 #15
Accountability can bite you in the Republican/Cretin-supporting ass. Guilded Lilly Nov 2020 #16
Kicketty Kickin' Faux pas Nov 2020 #18
It's Too Late for Some of Them NonPC Nov 2020 #19
Exactly blueseas Nov 2020 #38
Hilary was correct. They are "deplorables". Remember how lots of the press got trickyguy Nov 2020 #43
Well said. nt crickets Nov 2020 #61
And they're not asking for forgiveness either uponit7771 Nov 2020 #20
So much of what ails us hangs on Sean Hannity, IMHO. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2020 #21
Trump supporters need to remember that more than 75 million voted against their idol. Lonestarblue Nov 2020 #22
I agree 100%. Mr.Bill Nov 2020 #23
Kick. MontanaMama Nov 2020 #24
If I had voted for Trump it would have been a deliberate act of treason. hay rick Nov 2020 #25
What a relief in January marieo1 Nov 2020 #26
Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #28
Last week I felt really awful Roc2020 Nov 2020 #29
Perhaps we can keep them occupied with back to back trials of Trump, Pence, et al. amywalk Nov 2020 #30
Kind of a shame there's only one Brooklyn Bridge 3825-87867 Nov 2020 #31
K and R. warmfeet Nov 2020 #32
infantilization of the Trump voter. Truth there. I do not however, expect any of them to do jack, Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #33
Things we should thank Trump for: Aussie105 Nov 2020 #35
Spot on, as ever, RP niyad Nov 2020 #37
He makes some very good points. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #39
K & R SunSeeker Nov 2020 #40
In short we won an election without them. They don't matter. Dukkha Nov 2020 #41
It's not even Rude. sellitman Nov 2020 #42
And a "malignant narcissistic personality" shall lead them. Doctor Bandy Lee called it trickyguy Nov 2020 #44
aah . . . Joke 'em if they can't take a fuck! . . . n/t OneBlueSky Nov 2020 #45
Yes cp Nov 2020 #47
I think we need to aggressively make NEWS programs stick to TRUTH in advertising laws. TigressDem Nov 2020 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Nov 2020 #49
this llashram Nov 2020 #52
"at least 70 million Americans are just shitty people" Paladin Nov 2020 #53
Just tried putting this up on Facebook WinstonSmith4740 Nov 2020 #55
I stand with the Rude One. 11 Bravo Nov 2020 #56
Turnout was about 65% this year. We should focus only on turning out more spooky3 Nov 2020 #57
Exactly, there is a point where you have to realize they don't care for the facts JI7 Nov 2020 #64
Amen. Joinfortmill Nov 2020 #58
Not just shitty people. Stupid people. McCamy Taylor Nov 2020 #59

treestar

(82,383 posts)
2. And I doubt anyone told Trump in 2016 that he had to grapple with the
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:10 PM
Nov 2020

fact that more people had voted against him than for him! He just denied reality and didn't care.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
63. Yes, another case of Cheeto saying something and his followers
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 06:21 AM
Nov 2020

simply believe it uncritically. How convenient to claim his popular vote loss was solely due to illegal aliens voting. Typical Cheeto. I guess they would drink poisoned Kool Aid if he told them to.

PJMcK

(21,991 posts)
4. His Rudeness is totally spot-on
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:11 PM
Nov 2020

As they were so quick to tell us, Fuck Their Feelings!

These deplorable need to grow up, learn a few important things and accept that Trump lost.

I don't have any time or patience for anyone who still supports this cretin. Or the Republican Party.

Fuck their feelings.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
54. Agree 100% with His Rudeness
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:23 AM
Nov 2020
they need to exist as a warning not to let them get more power than they have and to work like hell to take away their remaining power.


Why are we still pretending the republican party is interested in democracy?

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
6. I can attest that the Trumpers I know are INDEED "shitty people"
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:11 PM
Nov 2020

and quite a few of them are, unfortunately, related to me. Sigh.
Their pent up, supposedly hidden, bigotry’s all came out during the last 4 years.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
7. Brainwashed for decades, it is their fault, ultimately, and we try to tell them we know....
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:18 PM
Nov 2020

BETTER, every fucking day?

What they see is a twisted reality, they are baked on it and some so affected they are willing to murder, aka. fuck THEIR own future.

THAT IS MADNESS, right dar!

These people need deprogrammed big time, and do you think any will volunteer for that after decades of distrust is beat the fuck into their brains?

It pains to still refer to them as people, IKR.
It's like people only -

Organized Stupidity, it really is something special!










rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
34. Brainwashing is right.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:00 PM
Nov 2020

It's like this girl I know at work, when she discovered I was a Democrat her first word was "babykiller" almost under her breath. She'd been taught since she was a baby that Liberal Democrats were babykillers and that was all she needed to know. How do you fight a brainfuck that.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
36. Gentle, but at a distance?
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:10 PM
Nov 2020

Deprogramming requirements would depend on them?

They will need help otherwise this cycle doesn't break, they just eventually die and probably sooner with all that hate inside?


soldierant

(6,785 posts)
46. Don't count on them dying helping.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:39 PM
Nov 2020

Sure, eventually they'll die. But it was their parents who started the brainwashing process on them, and they'll have done it to their children.

Good public education, IMO, has the best chance. Not perfect, but the best.

Blasphemer

(3,261 posts)
8. Amen. Shitty people who the system is designed to favor!
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:20 PM
Nov 2020

These are people whose votes count for more than the should because of the electoral college.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
17. And the fact that states with low populations get as many Senators as those with
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:57 PM
Nov 2020

many, many more people living in them. This is what keeps corpses like McConnell in power.

ShazzieB

(16,268 posts)
60. EXACTLY
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 06:08 PM
Nov 2020

The Constitution is way too hard to amend as well. I realize that making it too easy could lead to chaos and that's probably what the founders were worried about when they set it up that way, but yeesh.

Generic Brad

(14,272 posts)
9. Elections have consequences
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:27 PM
Nov 2020

I have heard mean spirited smart asses repeating that mantra for four years. Perhaps now is a good time for them to be on the receiving end of that idea.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
10. As I said, I've gone from kumbaya to Nuremberg trials in the last week
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:32 PM
Nov 2020

Thanks to their despicable behavior. I’m sorry they’re brainwashed. It is what it is.

Aussie105

(5,318 posts)
12. Well put.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:43 PM
Nov 2020

I've made the same transition once I realized the cleanup that needed to be done after the power shifts away from Trump.

There will need to be some serious, Nuremberg style follow ups, with "I was just following orders!" not an acceptable response.

At the very least, some billboards asking questions:

'So Republicans, what did you think was in it for you when you voted for Trump?'

'You voted for Trump? Was it worth while?'

etc

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
15. I have come to the conclusion that 70 million ameriKans are fascist and would follow Hitler
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:49 PM
Nov 2020

if this was 1933.

NonPC

(281 posts)
19. It's Too Late for Some of Them
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:58 PM
Nov 2020

To understand how to fix this, maybe we should look to how the Nazi Party was dismantled in 1945.

First off, Adolf killed himself and Eva -- so he was immediately out of the picture. The analogy with Trump is to charge and convict him and his kids of enough crimes that he will spend the rest of his life in jail, and they will be out of the picture for at least 10+ years.

Secondly, all the major Generals and high level criminals of the Nazi Party were prosecuted at Nuremberg. This needs to happen with the Trump appointees. If any are found guilty of treason, well, you know how that goes.

We have to make examples of these top goons. Without penalties, there is no deterrent to similar acts in the future.

Then, start on reconstruction. We may not have bombed out cities, but we do have an economy and infrastructure in shambles. We have many coal miners, ex-farmers, and ex-manufacturing people who need to be retrained into long-term jobs. Infrastructure construction. Civil Engineering. Alternate energy industry. Robotics. Health care (LPNs/RNs, geriatric specialties, pre-natal wellness, addiction counseling). I don't think we need to fund more IT, blogger, or AI specialists.

The rest of the knuckle-draggers who don't want to progress with the rest of the country have to be left behind. But since a lot of these people dislike masks, eating properly, and avoiding cigarettes, I guess we'll just have to let them extinguish themselves.

trickyguy

(769 posts)
43. Hilary was correct. They are "deplorables". Remember how lots of the press got
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:46 PM
Nov 2020

so critical of her for saying that. Well, she hit the nail on the head.

They got bad habits, bad education and bad attitudes. Deplorables.

And you're right. Let them self-extinguish.




SleeplessinSoCal

(9,082 posts)
21. So much of what ails us hangs on Sean Hannity, IMHO.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:00 PM
Nov 2020

From the time he had George Zimmerman on to promote his "innocence" in the most dangerous way possible to an audience re of shy racists. They're shy no more and easily became Fascists.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
22. Trump supporters need to remember that more than 75 million voted against their idol.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:02 PM
Nov 2020

So maybe they just need to get over it and move along. Biden and Harris is govern the country better in spite of the Trump worshipers.

MontanaMama

(23,294 posts)
24. Kick.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:15 PM
Nov 2020

I’m really done with these folks. I’ve got from being elated by the election to despair that 70 million of my fellow citizens don’t give a crap about anything but their own racist, selfish bullshit. I’ve got nothing for them. Nothing.

hay rick

(7,587 posts)
25. If I had voted for Trump it would have been a deliberate act of treason.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:20 PM
Nov 2020

Trump voters breathe the same air, drink the same water, and inhabit the same country. I leave it to others to pretend they are not traitors. I prefer to hold them accountable.

marieo1

(1,402 posts)
26. What a relief in January
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:25 PM
Nov 2020

I agree............they have no desire to have a peaceful decent country where people can walk around without fear, where we can enjoy life and each other and live our daily lives as we see fit. It is such a relief for me to think about all of the constant trauma that we lived every single day will be ending. Maybe we can again think about buying groceries, what to fix for dinner, planting gardens and flowers, having peaceful visits with each other and family members, going out to eat once in a while and just sitting down and having a quiet cup of coffee with a friend, and dealing with all of our own health issues!!

Roc2020

(1,613 posts)
29. Last week I felt really awful
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:38 PM
Nov 2020

myself that so many people voted for Trump. I really did. But this week Biden will win by 4-5% points. That's not close, that's a Strong win.

3825-87867

(837 posts)
31. Kind of a shame there's only one Brooklyn Bridge
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:52 PM
Nov 2020

Ponzi schemes. Nigerian Lottery. But it's amazing how many Americans are ready to or have put money down to buy into these last 4 years.

Con jobs people fall for. I wonder how many are Republicans?

Only Democrats raise taxes. Republicans care about America and Americans. Business pays it's fair share. The moon landing was a hoax.

But the biggest con job so far in history, other than the check's in the mail, is Donald Trump just existing - well, maybe second to organized religion.

Evolve Dammit

(16,694 posts)
33. infantilization of the Trump voter. Truth there. I do not however, expect any of them to do jack,
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:54 PM
Nov 2020

in terms of trying to understand anything. Willfully ignorant, brainwashed and simply uninterested in understanding or caring about anything but their own social bubbles.

Aussie105

(5,318 posts)
35. Things we should thank Trump for:
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:01 PM
Nov 2020

1. We now know a 'reality' TV star not a good President makes.

2. We now know they are out there. We will be more careful in who we trust, communicate with, give responsibility to.

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
41. In short we won an election without them. They don't matter.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:53 PM
Nov 2020

Evolve with the rest of humanity or be left behind.

trickyguy

(769 posts)
44. And a "malignant narcissistic personality" shall lead them. Doctor Bandy Lee called it
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:22 PM
Nov 2020

out in her 2017 clinical anthology entitled "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump".

She told us then and I tried to spread the word about her work.

And the operative word here is "dangerous". Very appro pos for today's drama which

is playing out all over the country and the world. Trump is a narcissistic danger to our Democracy.

And these shitty people are still buying his con. No excuses for them now.



TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
48. I think we need to aggressively make NEWS programs stick to TRUTH in advertising laws.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 02:09 AM
Nov 2020

Prosecute the HELL out of them when they dish propaganda, because without that, tRumpies would not have any way to say, but ONLY FAUX News tells the truth.

I know there are all other sources out there, but if there is proof that the MSM is actually FACT BASED, then we can tell them their other sources just don't meet the same journalistic standards, so it's basically lies.

Response to bluescribbler (Original post)

llashram

(6,265 posts)
52. this
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 10:11 AM
Nov 2020

"We just have to accept that 70million Americans are shit-RACIST-people". Never will I EVER forget that these treasonous seditious animals voted for trump. No forgiveness here. God forgives, I never forget.

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
53. "at least 70 million Americans are just shitty people"
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 10:46 AM
Nov 2020

Those of you who are trending towards some sort of forgive-and-forget arrangement with the trump hordes need to read this column in its entirety. These people earned our scorn and derision, fair and square. Letting them off easy just guarantees that this fascist nightmare will be repeated---and I don't think this country will survive that.

spooky3

(34,403 posts)
57. Turnout was about 65% this year. We should focus only on turning out more
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 03:24 PM
Nov 2020

and forget those Trump voters who care nothing about facts and what is right.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
64. Exactly, there is a point where you have to realize they don't care for the facts
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 06:57 AM
Nov 2020

it makes them more angry when you point them out . ANd you end up wasting time which could go towards more productive ways of campainging.

I do think we need to work on a way to get out the message and the facts more for people who don't pay much attention.

But when it comes to partisan types you are mostly wasting your time.

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