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Trump may announce 2024 run by end of the year (Original Post) RandySF Nov 2020 OP
Ridiculous man. redwitch Nov 2020 #1
Exactly. Even if he does, he will be a drooling vegetable. smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #22
I can't begin to imagine that three years from now PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #2
This only harms the GOP by freezing out the field RandySF Nov 2020 #4
It isnt all that good for them until 2024 Cosmocat Nov 2020 #36
My first thought is I agree...but ppl have very short memories and his cult's need for immediate Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #50
We will see Cosmocat Nov 2020 #61
They are terrified of him and his Magats. They will give him anything that he wants. nt Blue_true Nov 2020 #8
If he's not around, who are the Magats going to vote for? A Democrat? smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #23
If he is not around, people like Josh Hawley, DeSantis, Tom Cotton, Blue_true Nov 2020 #28
I know there will be others to step in, and they will be just as evil and certainly smarter. smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #41
After Trump won in 2016, I stopped assuming and prepared for a hard fight Blue_true Nov 2020 #46
Very well stated! Just as we are seeing now the proud boys are in an uproar and have split in two Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #51
Absolutely! smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #57
It's not up to them Polybius Nov 2020 #60
But if they can't get him? If he is dead, or incapacitated or in jail? smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #62
Obviously if they can't get him they will vote for someone else Polybius Nov 2020 #65
However, I don't think anyone will ever have the hold over these people that he does. smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #67
He won't be able to run, I bet. Ilsa Nov 2020 #3
Sure Cosmocat Nov 2020 #38
Bingo. Blue_true Nov 2020 #48
Other concerns will keep him from running that are hard to ignore. Mike 03 Nov 2020 #66
Who's going to pay for his rallies? He can't campaign on our dime anymore. blueinredohio Nov 2020 #5
He might get enough suckers to empty their pockets. Cheap Chinese made MAGA gear. nt Progressive Jones Nov 2020 #49
Aahh LeftInTX Nov 2020 #6
Hopefully, Mother Nature will do us and the world a big favor by then. nt Blue_true Nov 2020 #7
Amen to that! Or accidents. ancianita Nov 2020 #10
Accidents will work, like him slipping on a half-eaten cheese hamberder and Blue_true Nov 2020 #13
His immunity to covid will wear off in a couple of months and since he is sure he is now immune Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #53
I agree that in his head, he likely thinks that he is invincible. Blue_true Nov 2020 #56
FUCK OFF FUCKING FASCIST. Cha Nov 2020 #9
At least he's realizing he won't be president. Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #11
That was my first reaction as well. Bleacher Creature Nov 2020 #14
Tacit Concession Perhaps? The Great Escape Nov 2020 #21
The rallies won't be televised. kskiska Nov 2020 #52
Gives him four more years to destroy the GOP. I say, yes! Doodley Nov 2020 #12
I dunno. The GOP did very, very well underneath him for the past 4 years. Yavin4 Nov 2020 #30
Let him suck up all the money and leave Cotton, Cruz, Rubio etc. gasping for air. onenote Nov 2020 #15
Is that a gray squirrel hiding under his cap? Kaleva Nov 2020 #16
TWITTER NEEDS TO REMOVE HIS ACCOUNT PERMANENTLY! ancianita Nov 2020 #17
He's going to be amazed at how quickly he becomes irrelevant greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #18
That's true. Yavin4 Nov 2020 #31
I figure that he will. David__77 Nov 2020 #19
Way before the end of the year. As soon as Biden/Harris are certified Liberal In Texas Nov 2020 #20
Lol - I just posted almost an identical comment ... StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #27
He looks like shit JI7 Nov 2020 #24
That's because he IS shit. smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #26
you can tell bdamomma Nov 2020 #40
All the better to fleece his MAGA cult by getting them to pony up for his "campaign" StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #25
Which means he probably will Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2020 #29
He doesn't want to run IN 4 yrs, he wants to run FOR 4 yrs. Luz Nov 2020 #64
Puleese, he'll probably be dead by then. aquamarina Nov 2020 #32
Let him, Cruz and the rest of them duke it out. Renew Deal Nov 2020 #33
Maybe he wants to lose. NYC Liberal Nov 2020 #34
At some point the GOP is gonna have to can this fucking lunatic Azathoth Nov 2020 #35
Ha!! bdamomma Nov 2020 #37
Wouldn't he have to admit he wasn't re-elected first. Statistical Nov 2020 #39
Of course he'll run. Sogo Nov 2020 #42
Does this mean he's going to run against Ivanka in the primaries? Poiuyt Nov 2020 #43
If He's Not Dead Or In Jail By Then ChoppinBroccoli Nov 2020 #44
So the media will follow him around moondust Nov 2020 #45
Thom Hartmann was talking about how he can use this to grift with just about everything he does Quixote1818 Nov 2020 #47
Please god make him go away! Initech Nov 2020 #54
You guys do know he won't actually run, right? tman Nov 2020 #55
I agree completely DFW Nov 2020 #59
He can say anything he wants to, but he's finished. ooky Nov 2020 #58
I agree. This is the end for him. smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #63
The grift has been so lucrative for him. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2020 #68

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,855 posts)
2. I can't begin to imagine that three years from now
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:43 PM
Nov 2020

the Republican Party will be remotely willing to entertain him as a candidate.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
36. It isnt all that good for them until 2024
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:55 PM
Nov 2020

He us all about him and if he isnt on the ballot he will take away from their efforts but IF he makes ut that far he will be very formidable as their potus candidate.

Thekaspervote

(32,767 posts)
50. My first thought is I agree...but ppl have very short memories and his cult's need for immediate
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:32 AM
Nov 2020

Gratification no longer being met, they will lose interest.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
61. We will see
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:00 AM
Nov 2020

He gives their average voters their fixes (racism, misogyny, hatred for us, generally immoral and entitled, etc.) in a more real and viceral way than anyone else. Decades of "normal" politicians winking and throwing backhanded dog whistles at all of this, they eagerly got behind a full on provocateur.

All these people with their yards and houses littered with Trump shit ... you don't go back from meth to sniffing glue.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
23. If he's not around, who are the Magats going to vote for? A Democrat?
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:24 PM
Nov 2020

Bwahaahahaha!

They have no place else to go! It's the republican candidate, whoever they decide to present, or the Democratic canditate. That is their only choice. Trump is over! He isn't going to make it until 2024. The entire Trump family has no place to go but down.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. If he is not around, people like Josh Hawley, DeSantis, Tom Cotton,
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:34 PM
Nov 2020

and that snake Rick Scott that are licking his boots will step in. Ass-kissers like Lindsey Graham and Ted Cruz will be pushed aside with aspersions about sexuality (Graham) or ethnic whispers (Cruz). Don’t think that there are not people ready to step in Trump’s shoes. We need to do a quite evaluation of what happened to a lot of our down ballot races, and we need to become brutal and kill the candidacies of people like Cunningham in North Carolina before those people become our nominee and their hidden secrets become public at the wrong time.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
41. I know there will be others to step in, and they will be just as evil and certainly smarter.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:09 AM
Nov 2020

However, I don't think any of them will ever have the hold on the people that Trump has had. I don't know why, but people like that, no matter how loathsome, only come around once in a generation, if not longer.

I don't think any of those people that you mentioned will be able to galvanize these people like Trump has, and that's a good thing. I don't even think Trump's children could do it. He was a one off. Fortunately.

He tapped into something with his sick, evil personality that aroused something in a certain demographic and took advantage of it. He exploited the zeitgeist and the rage of the disaffected rural, uneducated, racist hater. They were ripe for it and he was in the right place at the right time. I am not so sure the stars are going to align so perfectly again for the next republican candidates. I don't think they will strike the same chord, even if they speak the same words.

I could be wrong, but for some reason, I cannot see anyone topping Trump's hold on the people he had commanded. Just an instinct. I hope I am right. There is something so primal and so base about Trump, I don't know if anyone could ever quite duplicate it. He's like an untamed animal. In a bad way. He appeals to the absolute worst in people.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
46. After Trump won in 2016, I stopped assuming and prepared for a hard fight
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:25 AM
Nov 2020

to get the country back on course. I still feel that way today. Over 70 million people, some of them non-racists and on the surface normal voted for that monster, those people are going to be around, some will die, but not enough, some of our voters will also die. We just have to take a “fight instead of assume” mindset, that is why I am very happy that Democratic Party aligned groups in Georgia are out knocking on doors and meeting people face to face for the runoff election - I know that some here are terrified by that, but we need to use what science and data is telling us about COVID19 risk factors and how to mitigate them - our people should not talk to anyone without wearing a face mask properly and they should religiously practice social distancing at all times, other than that, they need to meet people face to face instead of relying totally on an online presence and tv ads.

Thekaspervote

(32,767 posts)
51. Very well stated! Just as we are seeing now the proud boys are in an uproar and have split in two
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:42 AM
Nov 2020

Once the cult leader is gone they are weakened.

Dotard had that ridiculous NYC mobster bravado, Cruz, deathsantis or cotton can’t even come close. They are more like rand paul, outspoken but limp, beige/grey personalities that will not appeal.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
57. Absolutely!
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:10 AM
Nov 2020

A cult can only have one leader. The others may try to imitate him, but they will never be him and they will never capture the same "magic". I think it's over for them all. Trump is done, and therefore so are the republicans. He has destroyed them completely.

Don't believe me, just watch.

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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
62. But if they can't get him? If he is dead, or incapacitated or in jail?
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:07 AM
Nov 2020

Then what? They will have to move on at some point. Where will they go next? I honestly don't think he will make it to 2024. Not in any shape to run, anyway. That is an inevitability. He is barely holding it together now.

Polybius

(15,411 posts)
65. Obviously if they can't get him they will vote for someone else
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:51 PM
Nov 2020

So maybe Republicans will also push to get him in jail. But then Republicans will go full Tucker in '24. They may get rid of Trump, but they will elect his kind again.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
67. However, I don't think anyone will ever have the hold over these people that he does.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 04:55 PM
Nov 2020

People like Trump come along once in a century. He is a despicable creature and I cannot understand his appeal, but for some reason he has captured the hearts and minds of a large segment of the population.

These other people that you mentioned may profess the same exact sentiments, but they do not have what Trump has. I don't think they will appeal to his base in the same way. The cult will follow because they are republicans, but they will never have the same attachment.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
3. He won't be able to run, I bet.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:45 PM
Nov 2020

His reputation will be shot after the legal stuff and treason charges.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
48. Bingo.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:30 AM
Nov 2020

Given all we have seen, the constant lying, the massive incompetence, putting down troops alive and deceased - over 70 million Americans voted for that monster - we had enough this time to defeat them, but what happens when our internal ideological stresses weaken our numbers?

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
66. Other concerns will keep him from running that are hard to ignore.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:58 PM
Nov 2020

His cognitive deterioration has been marked since 2016, along with his general health.

He's facing a fusillade of civil lawsuits and criminal investigations (including some from foreign countries).

He thinks he has an appetite for it now, but let's see where it goes.

I still think this could be a money scam.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. Accidents will work, like him slipping on a half-eaten cheese hamberder and
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:10 PM
Nov 2020

never regaining consciousness. Unfortunately, I don’t think that prick leaves any half-eaten food laying around.

Thekaspervote

(32,767 posts)
53. His immunity to covid will wear off in a couple of months and since he is sure he is now immune
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:49 AM
Nov 2020

he will take even greater risks. The second time around may well leave him completely incapacitated or dead.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
56. I agree that in his head, he likely thinks that he is invincible.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:57 AM
Nov 2020

COVID19 has had a pattern with some cases of leaving a marker the first time around, then coming back to do more damage and even kill.

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
14. That was my first reaction as well.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:10 PM
Nov 2020

He was never just going to go away, so if he wants to start having rallies again with his lunatic followers, the more power to him.

That said, he also is going to need some time fighting off criminal charges in at least one jurisdiction.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
30. I dunno. The GOP did very, very well underneath him for the past 4 years.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:45 PM
Nov 2020

A massive corp. tax break. Three SCOTUS justices and a ton of other federal judges. Control of the senate. Defended the Mueller report and the Ukraine impeachment.

onenote

(42,702 posts)
15. Let him suck up all the money and leave Cotton, Cruz, Rubio etc. gasping for air.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:14 PM
Nov 2020

I'm all for it. Plus, he's too greedy to share that money with other candidates in 2022.

ancianita

(36,055 posts)
17. TWITTER NEEDS TO REMOVE HIS ACCOUNT PERMANENTLY!
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:15 PM
Nov 2020

They've done their evidence gathering job, made their money.

Now they should do the nation a fucking favor and drop him.

Liberal In Texas

(13,552 posts)
20. Way before the end of the year. As soon as Biden/Harris are certified
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:18 PM
Nov 2020

or whatever it's called, he'll announce so he can start raising campaign contributions. That's all that it's about, raising money.

Once a grifter, always a girfter.

bdamomma

(63,849 posts)
40. you can tell
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:01 AM
Nov 2020

he's been enraged. He does look like a POS.

He was FIRED by 75 million people, OUCH.

But he is still committing genocide on the American people.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
25. All the better to fleece his MAGA cult by getting them to pony up for his "campaign"
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:27 PM
Nov 2020

Grifters gonna grift

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
29. Which means he probably will
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:36 PM
Nov 2020

And will be "running" for the next 4 years if he does.

I guess that he just doesn't believe that people are sick enough of him and it's nothing short of a miracle that we actually got him out of office when so many people were totally willing to give him another 4 years, although who knows where he will be and what will be happening within the next 4 years. He may be in poor(er) health, battling legal and civil charges from everything that he has never been held accountable for, etc. It's hard to imagine him being in a good position for him to run again for the Presidency in another 4 years and even less of a chance that a majority in this country will want to do it again, now that he's been rejected and we will have at least 4 years of a "normal" Presidency

But that doesn't mean, of course, that he might not try, because he will persist in his belief that he never lost in the first place and that his second term was stolen from him (he thinks his first term was stolen from him too because of the Mueller Investigation and Impeachment).

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
34. Maybe he wants to lose.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:51 PM
Nov 2020

That way he can just be perpetually campaigning. That’s the only part he likes anyway, not the governing. Perhaps all these cries about fraud are just to keep his base riled up for the next campaign.

Azathoth

(4,608 posts)
35. At some point the GOP is gonna have to can this fucking lunatic
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:54 PM
Nov 2020

They can only rationalize this shit so long before it eats them permanently.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
39. Wouldn't he have to admit he wasn't re-elected first.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:57 PM
Nov 2020

You can have a second term not a third one. So if you are running for re-election it means you haven't won your second term. Did someone explain this to Dumpy?

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
44. If He's Not Dead Or In Jail By Then
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:13 AM
Nov 2020

I also think he'll be facing a VERY different Republican Party in 4 years, one that realizes the damage he has done to them. And a field of challengers who are out from under his thumb and no longer need to swear fealty to him. It wouldn't be a shock to me if he ran in 2024 and DIDN'T GET the nomination. But my money is on him either being dead or in jail.

moondust

(19,981 posts)
45. So the media will follow him around
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:23 AM
Nov 2020

and he can hold rallies and suck donations out of his cult for the next FOUR YEARS?

Just shoot me.

Quixote1818

(28,934 posts)
47. Thom Hartmann was talking about how he can use this to grift with just about everything he does
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:28 AM
Nov 2020

He can pay for all kinds of travel, food etc. as campaign expenses.

DFW

(54,378 posts)
59. I agree completely
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:16 AM
Nov 2020

He is already visibly in no condition to survive four more years at the job, even taking into consideration that he already treats the presidency as a half-time job.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
58. He can say anything he wants to, but he's finished.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:15 AM
Nov 2020

He's setting up an income stream for stupid people to send him money to live on.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
63. I agree. This is the end for him.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:09 AM
Nov 2020

He's done. And the Magats are just going to have to go through the five stages of grief until they finally accept the truth.

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