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Quixote1818

(28,926 posts)
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 09:55 AM Nov 2020

Trump plans to wreck Fox News with own network


President Trump has told friends he wants to start a digital media company to clobber Fox News and undermine the conservative-friendly network, sources tell Axios.

The state of play: Some Trump advisers think Fox News made a mistake with an early call (seconded by AP) of President-elect Biden's win in Arizona. That enraged Trump, and gave him something tangible to use in his attacks on the network.

"He plans to wreck Fox. No doubt about it," said a source with detailed knowledge of Trump's intentions

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Trump plans to wreck Fox News with own network (Original Post) Quixote1818 Nov 2020 OP
Trump rso Nov 2020 #1
Rupert Murdoch is richer than Trump is. ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2020 #2
Oh, boy! This is GREAT! TheBlackAdder Nov 2020 #26
I'm thinking the same thing PatSeg Nov 2020 #32
Almost like watching RealityBasedNewYorkr Nov 2020 #3
+1 nt Phoenix61 Nov 2020 #22
Rupert Murdoch is richer than Trump is. ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2020 #4
There is already a state propaganda show up and running its called "Rossiya 1", "Rossiya K" turbinetree Nov 2020 #5
From the guy that brought us trump University and trump Steaks Norbert Nov 2020 #6
From the guy who brought us hydroxychloroquine and bleach. eom. Bad Thoughts Nov 2020 #13
This could be very amusing... Spazito Nov 2020 #7
Yep Quixote1818 Nov 2020 #39
Since when has anything Trump has done not wrecked itself? n/t blitzen Nov 2020 #8
Under the "What have you done for me lately" theory Chainfire Nov 2020 #9
Didn't Palin try something similar... this won't go well JCMach1 Nov 2020 #10
One would think other media outlets will loathe to cover "news" coming from this propaganda NCDem47 Nov 2020 #11
Donny Deutsch on Morning Joe said tRump was in pre-Production right now. njhoneybadger Nov 2020 #12
Um, doesn't he still have a country to ruin? Retrograde Nov 2020 #35
Go for it Donny! Botany Nov 2020 #14
Another great idea! Would love to see either network crash burn. dreamland Nov 2020 #15
They are all making the NASCAR mistake. Heard about it much? underpants Nov 2020 #16
Some good thoughts and info. But we have to add in that Hortensis Nov 2020 #21
Agreed. I think Fox becomes like the evening news. underpants Nov 2020 #23
I can definitely see Fox becoming seen as "mainstream" RW against Hortensis Nov 2020 #24
Just the first 10 minutes underpants Nov 2020 #34
Reassuring, thanks. 95.5 WSB 3-3:10 p.m. He should be Hortensis Nov 2020 #36
Right wing dogs turning on each other. marmar Nov 2020 #17
He doesn't have a chance in hell. smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #18
Imagine a network filled with grifters Silent3 Nov 2020 #19
Oh good, another channel I won't watch! Initech Nov 2020 #20
Add to the dozens and scores of channels I ignore... Wounded Bear Nov 2020 #27
Trump Takes set to be as successful as Trump Steaks greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #25
It will benefit from Rump's uncanny business acumen. Buns_of_Fire Nov 2020 #28
As troubling as that is, there is some sweet irony in it, as well StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #29
Not a chance in hell unless he partners up with NewsMax..... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2020 #30
A right-wing noise network. Aristus Nov 2020 #31
And just where is the money going to come from? You're broke Donnie! bif Nov 2020 #33
No one will loan to him. Nt Quixote1818 Nov 2020 #37
"Let Them Fight" Meme goes here irisblue Nov 2020 #38

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
2. Rupert Murdoch is richer than Trump is.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 09:58 AM
Nov 2020

He has the means to fight Trump.

This could be fun to watch, but then, Trump will be busy fighting Legal challenges.

TheBlackAdder

(28,181 posts)
26. Oh, boy! This is GREAT!
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:53 AM
Nov 2020

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Yeah, Murdoch's got the money, but Trump's got the cult.

If Trump poaches Hannity and Carlson, that will definitely amp things up a bit.

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PatSeg

(47,360 posts)
32. I'm thinking the same thing
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:09 PM
Nov 2020

Rupert Murdoch is far more powerful than Trump could ever dream of being. I think he's taking on a fight he can never win, but it is something to look forward to. As hard as it is to believe, I think Trump is getting dumber every day.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
4. Rupert Murdoch is richer than Trump is.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 10:00 AM
Nov 2020

He has the means to fight Trump.

This could be fun to watch, but then, Trump will be busy fighting Legal challenges.

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
5. There is already a state propaganda show up and running its called "Rossiya 1", "Rossiya K"
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 10:05 AM
Nov 2020

and besides his fat ass is going to be under criminal indictment unless he flees to putinville

January 20,2021 cannot get here fast enough...............

Norbert

(6,039 posts)
6. From the guy that brought us trump University and trump Steaks
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 10:05 AM
Nov 2020

I'm good with it. Maybe he will take Faux down a rung before his next bankruptcy come to pass.

Spazito

(50,253 posts)
7. This could be very amusing...
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 10:06 AM
Nov 2020

given everything trump touches dies. This is going to be trump university in spades, imo.

Chainfire

(17,523 posts)
9. Under the "What have you done for me lately" theory
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 10:09 AM
Nov 2020

How is Trump going to have time to do that while running the country for the next four years??????? Don't tell me he is making contingency plans.

I am a bit unsure that Trump could raise funds to start up a Sunday School Picnic while financing his criminal defense.

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
11. One would think other media outlets will loathe to cover "news" coming from this propaganda
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 10:13 AM
Nov 2020

Who will cover anything he has to say over there?

A subscription channel no less!

Although, Trump is like crack to some MSM. They just can't help it to regurgitate his nonsense.

Retrograde

(10,132 posts)
35. Um, doesn't he still have a country to ruin?
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:25 PM
Nov 2020

Trump is still president for the next 69 days - how does he possibly find the time to start up a new venture?

Botany

(70,483 posts)
14. Go for it Donny!
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 10:24 AM
Nov 2020

Although Fox News is loathsome they have real business people in their organization with
real business plans and Trump is just a hot mess of failed businesses. Funny, how Trump
is now after the organization that propped him up and put him into power. Rupert told him
Trump last summer that he was going to lose and Trump is still pissed.

dreamland

(964 posts)
15. Another great idea! Would love to see either network crash burn.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 10:31 AM
Nov 2020

Someone's going to learn his lesson, it's your guess who.

underpants

(182,733 posts)
16. They are all making the NASCAR mistake. Heard about it much?
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 10:48 AM
Nov 2020

Newsmax, OAN, a new website I heard about yesterday called UncoverDC, Parler, MeWe

NASCAR used to be on antenna TV and was a regular on Sports Center. I guess it was when Fox bought races and have their own sports network - ESPN got frozen out. ESPN reports were only from outside the track. Less mention on Sportscenter. Then NASCAR signed with NBCSports and their network system and it completely disappeared from ESPN and therefore from most of the sports world. Sorry we’re creatures of habit. Only the smallish hard core fans followed them even on the first step to Fox.

Rightwing media is going to splinter itself and market share into almost nothing. Fox will survive but not near what it was. Eventually their news will become like the tail end of a reality show in which people play to character and everyone tries to out outrage each other for attention. It will be almost indistinguishable for the non-watcher to reality.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. Some good thoughts and info. But we have to add in that
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:12 AM
Nov 2020

half of all Americans are conservative. I really don't think they'll go back to the bad old days of news that's not oriented to their worldview. Fox is very watchable and good at what it does, so I suspect it would weather the hit and eventually retain the preeminent position in its market.

Of course there would be changes with Trump TV, as you discuss. Fox reports what its viewers want to hear. If viewership changes, product changes. Guessing OAN would disappear or serve a market too crazy even for Trump TV. Maybe Murdoch would buy access to their spongy brains.

underpants

(182,733 posts)
23. Agreed. I think Fox becomes like the evening news.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:29 AM
Nov 2020

The network nightly news shows still draw good numbers. Those of us who follow the news all day may find that strange but again creatures of habit. Fox may just become the right wing standard.

The danger here for them is that their consumer becomes an oddity in normal situations. The water cooler version of the guy yelling on the street. As I’ve used as an example before - the first 10 minutes of Hannity’s radio show takes a couple of days to understand not only the references and inside jokes but what in the world he’s talking about.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. I can definitely see Fox becoming seen as "mainstream" RW against
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:46 AM
Nov 2020

the whackjobbery of Trump and the others. I don't think it'll ever lose its political commentary/propaganda orientation, though. If Trump draws off enough of its nuts, it's "news" could become more honest, the way it does briefly after some mislead viewers get so disgusted at being blindsided by reality that they drop away. More like their business news perhaps.

I'm not sure I've ever listened to Hannity's radio show. Now you have me wanting to, for as long as I could stomach.

underpants

(182,733 posts)
34. Just the first 10 minutes
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:46 PM
Nov 2020

Of Hannity’s show. That will be enough. By the third day some of it will repeat and register with you.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
18. He doesn't have a chance in hell.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 10:54 AM
Nov 2020

With what money? He is almost one billion dollars in debt, which will be called on the minute he leaves office. Also, nobody will ever lend him money ever again. He's a bad investment. He's a one-trick pony. Who is going to want to listen to his rants over and over again, especially as he gets more demented. Even his own base was getting bored with him.

I'm sorry, but I really don't think this will be going anywhere. He will not wreck Fox or any other major network. He's a fucking joke and everyone knows it. Once he is out of power, his star will collapse so fast, it will make his head spin.

Silent3

(15,182 posts)
19. Imagine a network filled with grifters
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 10:59 AM
Nov 2020

Trump's businesses have gone bankrupt one after another as is. Imagine taking that stunning acumen, and adding even more grifters than usual, all out for themselves, none of them thinking about the good of the business, simply skimming off the top for themselves for as long as the can.

It would be run into the ground, and many millions in debt, in no time.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
25. Trump Takes set to be as successful as Trump Steaks
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:49 AM
Nov 2020

Murdoch's gonna crush his balls and feed them to a tasselled wobbegong.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
30. Not a chance in hell unless he partners up with NewsMax.....
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:05 PM
Nov 2020

who seems to have similar ambitions and they're already huge.

I read here that the NewsMax owner Ruddy and tRump are best buds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsmax

and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Ruddy

On the other hand, tRump might start another cable show/tell/sell channel like QVC with his kids and sell wingnut junk like survival gear, Confederate flags and dietary supplements.


KY.........

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