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malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 10:57 PM Nov 2020

Is this a good reason for President Biden to offer e.g. Sen. Collins a cabinet spot?

She would be replaced in the Senate by a Democratic governor with a Democrat, and I think she might actually accept.

Obviously that could have the potential to alter the Senate in our favor. Is there a second R senator from D. gov. state in case we need both seats after Georgia? Or a better choice than *gag* Collins?

Am I nuts? I have no clue where she would fit. Too bad we don't have a Dept. of Hypocrisy or Concern.

On Edit: Maine was just the first example that occurred to me. My essential point is that isn't giving up a cabinet post (or 2) in exchange for control of the Senate absolutely worth it. Anyway, I'm sure Moscow Mitch would promise to sic Puttie Poots on anyone who accepted, so likely a moot point. Sigh...

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Is this a good reason for President Biden to offer e.g. Sen. Collins a cabinet spot? (Original Post) malchickiwick Nov 2020 OP
If there was a guarantee she'd accept, I'd say offer it. AleksS Nov 2020 #1
I like the idea of firing her right away malchickiwick Nov 2020 #5
The Concern Tsar? Thomas Hurt Nov 2020 #2
Only if she's offered the job of Secretary of Concern or something similarly useless The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #3
LOL c-rational Nov 2020 #17
The same could be said for Toomey who might sign on since he is not running for re-election. LonePirate Nov 2020 #4
Thanks. I am looking for other potential states. Cause Maine is just the first that came to mind. malchickiwick Nov 2020 #6
I wonder if the other senator from KS could be appointed Sec. of Agriculture. LonePirate Nov 2020 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Hotler Nov 2020 #7
This! I'm tired of playing nice. bamagal62 Nov 2020 #10
FTR: It's not about playing nice; it's about controlling the Senate. malchickiwick Nov 2020 #11
This isn't playing nice. In fact it's rather dirty. marylandblue Nov 2020 #12
Thank You!! This was my idea. malchickiwick Nov 2020 #15
It's not playing nice. it's political strategy. JI7 Nov 2020 #16
Exactly; thank you! This would be the OPPOSITE of "playing nice" malchickiwick Nov 2020 #27
That isn't playing nice. It's acting strategically. Glorfindel Nov 2020 #18
Exactly!! Giving up a worthless cabinet slot in order to control the Senate? No contest to me! malchickiwick Nov 2020 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author bamagal62 Nov 2020 #8
Secretary of Worry and Concern. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #9
Well, I could go with a worthless Ambassadorship. bamagal62 Nov 2020 #13
Offer her an ambassadorship to Nambia. n/t davepdx Nov 2020 #41
If she would take it then sure but zero chance she will take it. Statistical Nov 2020 #14
I don't know. What would she have to lose politically? and Mainers are indies by nature. malchickiwick Nov 2020 #29
You've got to be kidding. left-of-center2012 Nov 2020 #20
Duly noted. Thanks for playing. But I hope you caught my logic. the SENATE! malchickiwick Nov 2020 #30
And my logic is... left-of-center2012 Nov 2020 #38
I understand the sentiment. But to be clear. Are you saying it wouldn't be worth it malchickiwick Nov 2020 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Nov 2020 #40
For The Exact Same Reason I'd Offer Rand Paul One ChoppinBroccoli Nov 2020 #21
I hadn't considered Rand Paul. I may hate him even more than Susan, but whatever delivers the Senate malchickiwick Nov 2020 #31
No Senate Republican will accept a cabinet spot if it will change the majority. Ace Rothstein Nov 2020 #22
I don't know. There may be a 30-70 chance if you pick the right Senator? malchickiwick Nov 2020 #32
and who, exactly, would that "right" Senator be onenote Nov 2020 #42
List of possibilities from Celerity on another thread: Qutzupalotl Nov 2020 #23
I want to add Jeff Jackson for NC US Senate in 2022. He is my new number one choice. Celerity Nov 2020 #25
Thanks for this!! And I was wondering if there was a similar post somewhere on DU... malchickiwick Nov 2020 #33
The folks who think any Repub Senator will take a cabinet post should be looking up in the sky onenote Nov 2020 #24
I don't know... stranger things have happened. malchickiwick Nov 2020 #34
That's a great idea! Perhaps as ambassador. We'd gain a seat. Yet, she may or may not RestoreAmerica2020 Nov 2020 #26
With McTurtle on one side and Biden on the other... Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #35
Ha love it!! If only Susan thought like a normal person. malchickiwick Nov 2020 #36
I was thinking about this BGBD Nov 2020 #37

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
1. If there was a guarantee she'd accept, I'd say offer it.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 10:59 PM
Nov 2020

Would have saved lot of campaign cash. Then a week later, when he's "concerned" over her performance, he should fire her.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,582 posts)
3. Only if she's offered the job of Secretary of Concern or something similarly useless
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:00 PM
Nov 2020

because she'd be as terrible a cabinet member as she is a senator.

LonePirate

(13,407 posts)
4. The same could be said for Toomey who might sign on since he is not running for re-election.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:00 PM
Nov 2020

PA's Dem governor would replace Toomey.

LonePirate

(13,407 posts)
19. I wonder if the other senator from KS could be appointed Sec. of Agriculture.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:20 PM
Nov 2020

The Dem governor of the state would appoint a replacement.

The problem is we don't have many states with a Dem governor and a Republican senator who is not a complete nut/asshole (such as Kentucky with its pair of asshole Repub senators).

Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
12. This isn't playing nice. In fact it's rather dirty.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:08 PM
Nov 2020

Give stupid Republican Senator plum job that feeds her ego but screws up her party.

Glorfindel

(9,714 posts)
18. That isn't playing nice. It's acting strategically.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:14 PM
Nov 2020

Replacing a rePuke senator with a Democratic senator. Cabinet positions aren't worth a pitcher of warm spit anyway, except for State, Defense, and Homeland Security. Collins would make a fine Secretary of Agriculture...she could praise Maine's potato crop until the cows come home. Toomey, at Commerce, would be a sterling example of bi-partisanship, making speeches, cutting ribbons, and the like. Cabinet secretaries have less real power than lieutenant governors.

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
28. Exactly!! Giving up a worthless cabinet slot in order to control the Senate? No contest to me!
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:28 AM
Nov 2020

Thank you!

Response to malchickiwick (Original post)

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
39. I understand the sentiment. But to be clear. Are you saying it wouldn't be worth it
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:56 AM
Nov 2020

to control the Senate?? Honest question.

Response to malchickiwick (Reply #39)

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,781 posts)
21. For The Exact Same Reason I'd Offer Rand Paul One
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:31 PM
Nov 2020

You let the Democratic Governor replace them, you take back control of the Senate, then you fire them. Two birds, one stone. Or in this case, it's like 3 or 4 birds.

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
31. I hadn't considered Rand Paul. I may hate him even more than Susan, but whatever delivers the Senate
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:31 AM
Nov 2020

Thanks!

Ace Rothstein

(3,141 posts)
22. No Senate Republican will accept a cabinet spot if it will change the majority.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:40 PM
Nov 2020

It just isn't going to happen.

onenote

(42,560 posts)
42. and who, exactly, would that "right" Senator be
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:42 PM
Nov 2020

And why would he take a cabinet post if it meant giving the Democrats control of the Senate.

The postulated scenario isn't just unlikely -- it's completely disconnected from reality fantasy

Qutzupalotl

(14,285 posts)
23. List of possibilities from Celerity on another thread:
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:43 PM
Nov 2020
WI Johnson
PA Toomey - asshat deluxe, but the least worst of a shitbox lot
NC Burr (retiring in 2022) - probably the likely to take the deal I think, I might be wrong
NC Tillis (assuming he wins, which is likely, so pissed at Foxx and Stein for not running, Stein probably in 2020, Foxx in 2022 for the open seat from Burr's retirement)
KS Marshall (just won, an open seat too! in good part due to Sibelius refusing to run)
KS Moran
LA Kennedy
LA Cassidy
ME Collins (ugh, Susan Rice would have won IMHO, Gideon was a weak candidate)
KY Paul
KY Moscow (zero chance, he will be the 2nd most powerful person on the planet (or 3rd, after Xi) unless we sweep the 2 GA runoffs, the Rethug Senate is going to be a NIGHTMARE)


A few real turds on that list, but others might be tolerable in a post where they can’t do much damage.

onenote

(42,560 posts)
24. The folks who think any Repub Senator will take a cabinet post should be looking up in the sky
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:46 PM
Nov 2020

because they wouldn't want to miss the pigs flying by.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,434 posts)
26. That's a great idea! Perhaps as ambassador. We'd gain a seat. Yet, she may or may not
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:55 PM
Nov 2020

Last edited Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:04 AM - Edit history (1)

..accepr, then again may--who knows...

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
35. With McTurtle on one side and Biden on the other...
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:35 AM
Nov 2020

... I'd scream in terror, clutch my pearls, and go running to Joe.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
37. I was thinking about this
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:43 AM
Nov 2020

The other day.

There are very few ppl who would both be acceptable and have a democratic gov... Collins and Toomey I guess. Not many others.

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