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Ali Velshi mentioned tonite that there are Maricopa votes coming in that may allow Arizona to be (Original Post) triron Nov 2020 OP
Ya think? mercuryblues Nov 2020 #1
I think it was the Tucson area/Pima County. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #2
Biden is leading. LisaL Nov 2020 #3
Even if Trump gets 70% of all the remaining ballots Dem2 Nov 2020 #4
Not with Trump math SCantiGOP Nov 2020 #9
You make a good point Dem2 Nov 2020 #13
Woof woof, picking up speed #OperationWarpConcede soothsayer Nov 2020 #5
Great & the NYT said "it was essentially Cha Nov 2020 #6
Yes! I heard that Catherine Vincent Nov 2020 #7
Have they scanned and counted the provisional ballots yet? FakeNoose Nov 2020 #8
Arizona's remaining ballots are not breaking for Joe. LisaL Nov 2020 #10
The current situation is this: Towlie Nov 2020 #11
The sites are coordinated together. LisaL Nov 2020 #12
That hasn't been my experience. I've seen votes added while uncounted remains the same. Towlie Nov 2020 #14
Today the remaining votes were going down only. LisaL Nov 2020 #15
Anyway, I hope you're right because Biden's lead has been steadily dropping. Towlie Nov 2020 #16
I know. AZ is the opposite of GA. LisaL Nov 2020 #17
Ali Velshi didn't have it, Lawrence O'Donnell didn't have it, maybe Brian Williams will. Towlie Nov 2020 #18
Brian Williams on MSNBC just called Arizona. Towlie Nov 2020 #19
Biden will win AZ, Decision Desk HQ called it and radius777 Nov 2020 #20
The CNN map now shows four flipped states (from Rep to Dem) and the score is Biden 290, Trump 217. Towlie Nov 2020 #21

Eyeball_Kid

(7,429 posts)
2. I think it was the Tucson area/Pima County.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:08 PM
Nov 2020

There would be a tilt on Biden's direction if it were votes from Pima.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
4. Even if Trump gets 70% of all the remaining ballots
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:09 PM
Nov 2020

Assuming the count that the Secretary of State has provided is correct, Trump will lose. He needs 86% of the remaining ballots to win. That's virtually impossible.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
5. Woof woof, picking up speed #OperationWarpConcede
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:11 PM
Nov 2020

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Caroline Casey
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Woof woof, picking up speed #OperationWarpConcede

FakeNoose

(32,596 posts)
8. Have they scanned and counted the provisional ballots yet?
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:19 PM
Nov 2020

The provisional ballots can't be run until everything else is completed. So those are the ballots that were given out on election day, and a lot of them went to voters who returned their mail-in ballot and voted in-person instead. So ... mostly Dems.

Provisional ballots were also given to anyone who voted in-person and might have been unable to provide ID or maybe their address had changed since they registered or last voted. Again ... more likely Dems, or skewing younger anyway.

The provisional ballots are going to break for Biden I believe.




LisaL

(44,972 posts)
10. Arizona's remaining ballots are not breaking for Joe.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:27 PM
Nov 2020

Everything being counted is eating into his lead. But there are not many ballots left to be counted. And yes, they are counting provisional ballots.

Towlie

(5,322 posts)
11. The current situation is this:
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:31 PM
Nov 2020

According to this site it's Biden 1,666,495, Trump 1,655,461. That's a Biden lead of 11,034.

And according to this site there are an estimated total of 16,040 remaining uncounted votes.

The total of votes cast in Arizona is therefore 3,337,996 and 1,668,998 are needed to win.

Biden therefore needs 2,503 votes or 15.6% of the remaining votes and Trump would need 13,537 votes or 84.4% of the remaining votes.

But I'm not sure that those two sites are coordinated together even though they're both in Katie Hobbs' name.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
12. The sites are coordinated together.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:33 PM
Nov 2020

When new votes drop, the remaining ballots decrease by an appropriate amount.

Towlie

(5,322 posts)
14. That hasn't been my experience. I've seen votes added while uncounted remains the same.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:41 PM
Nov 2020

... or uncounted votes dropping while vote totals remained the same.

Towlie

(5,322 posts)
16. Anyway, I hope you're right because Biden's lead has been steadily dropping.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:46 PM
Nov 2020

11/06/20 11:09 AM 43,569
11/06/20 11:30 AM 43,779
11/06/20 02:49 PM 41,302
11/06/20 05:07 PM 39,769
11/08/20 06:01 PM 19,348
11/09/20 07:08 AM 16,985
11/09/20 02:51 PM 17,131
11/09/20 04:13 PM 16,730
11/10/20 07:24 AM 15,432
11/10/20 10:21 AM 14,746
11/10/20 03:47 PM 14,733
11/11/20 08:43 AM 12,813
11/11/20 11:56 PM 11,635
11/12/20 01:24 PM 11,537
11/12/20 07:14 PM 11,390
11/12/20 10:23 PM 11,034

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
17. I know. AZ is the opposite of GA.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:48 PM
Nov 2020

In GA, Biden was behind on election day (to the point that not many people believed he can pull it off) but he did phenomenally well with remaining ballots.
AZ is the opposite. Remaining ballots have been eating into Biden's lead.

Towlie

(5,322 posts)
19. Brian Williams on MSNBC just called Arizona.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:16 AM
Nov 2020

Biden 1,668,684, Trump 1,657,250, 10,315 uncounted votes.

Biden leads by 11,434 votes with 10,315 votes uncounted. Trump needs 105.4% of the uncounted votes to win Arizona.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
20. Biden will win AZ, Decision Desk HQ called it and
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:17 AM
Nov 2020

Wasserman said it was basically over.

Biden's lead has been dwindling due to the late arriving mail ballots and same day votes favoring Trump, but there are not enough votes left (about 16k, mostly from blue or purple areas) for Trump to overtake.

https://arizona.vote/ballot-progress.html

Towlie

(5,322 posts)
21. The CNN map now shows four flipped states (from Rep to Dem) and the score is Biden 290, Trump 217.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:33 AM
Nov 2020
https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/results/president#mapmode=call

Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Arizona show as flipped.
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