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First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:23 AM Nov 2020

The Secession Winter of 1860-1...the Depression Winter of 1932-33...and now, the Covid Winter...

...of 2020-21. Three times in our history, we've had Presidential successions taking place during national emergencies. And all three times, we've had the same pattern: an unworthy president, in over their heads, as the emergency deepened. Buchanan sat back and didn't lift a finger as the South seceded, bringing on a civil war that Lincoln had to fight. Hoover, sitting back as the economy collapsed into total chaos, refusing to fight the crisis and instead trying to pressure FDR into signing on to his--Hoover's--policies, which the electorate had just overwhelmingly rejected, leaving Roosevelt to clean up his mess. And now. A pandemic out of control, and two months ahead of a President utterly unworthy, not caring how many Americans die. Not even cooperating with his successor in any way, much less helping him to arrive at any solutions. Buchanan and Hoover were failures, but not even they were as totally soulless and vile as this failure...

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The Secession Winter of 1860-1...the Depression Winter of 1932-33...and now, the Covid Winter... (Original Post) First Speaker Nov 2020 OP
Grant wrote that Buchanan secretly aided the Confederates. raging moderate Nov 2020 #1
Buchanan and Dump are the definite two worst presidents. roamer65 Nov 2020 #3
Trump is as Confederate as one gets relayerbob Nov 2020 #7
Yes, a Copperhead. raging moderate Nov 2020 #9
what happened in 1918 or so essaynnc Nov 2020 #2
1920 was the next election year...nt Wounded Bear Nov 2020 #4
President Wilson had a stroke in October1919 and his wife ran the country from then on. hedda_foil Nov 2020 #6
World War I. roamer65 Nov 2020 #5
We will see the worst winter in a hundred years as covid takes 100's of 1000's more lives yaesu Nov 2020 #8

raging moderate

(4,297 posts)
1. Grant wrote that Buchanan secretly aided the Confederates.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:29 AM
Nov 2020

In General US Grant's memoirs, he wrote that Buchanan and other Confederate sympathizers in the government had secretly moved stockpiles of various equipment and armaments and vehicles from the North to the South, so that the Northern army and navy found themselves short on these items when the South declared war.

raging moderate

(4,297 posts)
9. Yes, a Copperhead.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 10:40 AM
Nov 2020

We had these people in the North, back then. And their spiritual heirs are still here. Copperheads. Like snakes in the grass.

hedda_foil

(16,372 posts)
6. President Wilson had a stroke in October1919 and his wife ran the country from then on.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:03 AM
Nov 2020

Harding took over in 1921.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
5. World War I.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:41 AM
Nov 2020

By the time WW1 ended, the second wave of the flu pandemic was raging. The troops coming home in November didn’t help either.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
8. We will see the worst winter in a hundred years as covid takes 100's of 1000's more lives
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 02:45 AM
Nov 2020

and the economy collapses under the strain. Homeless population will skyrocket, hunger & unrest. There will be food shortages, healthcare crisis, mass unemployment, all because we will not have any federal leadership through Jan 21st.

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