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Paul Waldman
November 13, 2020 at 3:50 p.m. EST
... Trump ... expected the courts conservatives to deliver him a second term ...
These cases are so weak that it appears the Supreme Court will be spared the need to intercede on Trumps behalf, surely to the relief of the justices. Not that the courts six conservatives didnt want to see Trump win, but they were no doubt uncomfortable with the idea of handing him a victory in the way he wanted ...
... hes so far behind that his lawyers cant come up with any good reason the results in any state should be reversed to give him the states electoral votes, let alone in the multiple states hed need to flip to prevail ...
... it would take a partisan intervention so extraordinary, so unjustified, so appalling to any notion of democracy that if the Supreme Court actually gave Trump what he wanted, it could cause a constitutional crisis unprecedented in American history ...
... his lawyers .. unable to provide any evidence of fraud at all ... cant even claim to have found fraud ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/11/13/trumps-strategy-have-courts-swing-election-lies-tatters/
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Still I have some concerns that Billy Barr is up to no good and will try for more rabbits coming out of his hat.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)He will pull a few dirty tricks but his team is not afraid. It is going to be a full time job for an AG to fix the Justice Department. Do you think Coons can do it? I hear he is at the top of the list.
Wonder what role Jon Meacham, Historian will play? He has joined the Biden teal along with 3 others from MSNBC. All well known and respected.
Lonestarblue
(10,080 posts)Even if we get the two Georgia seats, we need every Dem Senator to stay in the Senate.
There are lots of good candidates for AG, perhaps Preet Bharara or one of the other state AGs. We need someone who will be tough.
struggle4progress
(118,350 posts)Robert Barnes
November 13, 2020 at 7:07 p.m. EST
Has the Supreme Court hit the pause button on all things President Trump?
The justices for more than three weeks have been holding on to the presidents last-ditch plea to shield his private financial records from Manhattans district attorney.
And all has been quiet on the election front.
Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. on Nov. 6 directed Pennsylvania election officials to segregate .. ballots received in the three-day window after Election Day, and said he was referring the matter .. for further action.
No further action has come. Nor has the court acted on a separate request from the Trump campaign, pending for a week, to intervene in the case ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-trump-tax-returns-election-dispute/2020/11/13/2fc25b5a-252d-11eb-a688-5298ad5d580a_story.html
MyOwnPeace
(16,938 posts)To be clear, this was a "procedural" ruling - the state of Pennsylvania had ALREADY ordered them to be kept separate - there were NO shenanigans going on and nothing else has been done to change any vote totals or procedures.
Just another futile and wasted effort by BunkerBoy's team.
struggle4progress
(118,350 posts)By BOB CHRISTIE and NICHOLAS RICCARDI
Republican leaders in four critical states won by President-elect Joe Biden say they wont participate in a legally dubious scheme to flip their states electors to vote for President Donald Trump. Their comments effectively shut down a half-baked plot some Republicans floated as a last chance to keep Trump in the White House.
State GOP lawmakers in Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin have all said they would not intervene in the selection of electors, who ultimately cast the votes that secure a candidates victory. Such a move would violate state law and a vote of the people, several noted.
I do not see, short of finding some type of fraud which I havent heard of anything I dont see us in any serious way addressing a change in electors, said Rusty Bowers, Arizonas Republican House speaker, who says hes been inundated with emails pleading for the legislature to intervene. They are mandated by statute to choose according to the vote of the people.
The idea loosely involves GOP-controlled legislatures dismissing Bidens popular vote wins in their states and opting to select Trump electors. While the endgame was unclear, it appeared to hinge on the expectation that a conservative-leaning Supreme Court would settle any dispute over the move ...
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-legislature-pennsylvania-b199b2debc87fbb20612a48835bc0dba
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Is aware of just how bad the Rehnquist Court decision on Bush Vs. Gore left such a taint on the Court he does not want that for his. He has already done enough damage with Citizens United. That stinks to high heaven.
Alito and Thomas seem to be the worst. Thomas wife Ginny controls him.
Fyrefox
(300 posts)Trump's strategy to have the courts swing the election to him is indeed in tatters. Trump's most insidious attacks on American democracy involved attacking our institutions, specifically the free press and the judiciary. Fortunately they have withstood the assaults, although the Supreme Court has been tainted and skewed hard to the right. The blotch of Trumpism will abide long after he is gone...
Captain Zero
(6,823 posts)Alito could also kick over. Kavsnaugh's liver has to be a mess.
JI7
(89,271 posts)and vote all the time.
George II
(67,782 posts)....they had little or no case.
In just about every case though they've given him the big middle finger and ruled on the merits, or lack of merits.
MyOwnPeace
(16,938 posts)that there has been a whole string of "lack of merits" cases - typical Trump leadership!
North Shore Chicago
(3,326 posts)Until the darkness at the end of this tunnel returns to light, I will not be 100% confident that they will not pull something out of their very black bag o' tricks. Does one really believe they care about a stinking constitutional crisis?
They are never to be trusted, never.