I think there will be fraud exposed from this election, eventually,,

[duforsure]

Against trump and the GOP when foreign money is exposed has been given to trump and McConnell , and others on 2016 and this election. I also think there are some Democrats already aware of it, but waiting for the right time to expose them for it.

[UCmeNdc]

1. Trump and GOP rush to 'quietly pack the FEC with partisans' after election: watchdog

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214550906

[soothsayer]

2. Stop the Steal's massive disinformation campaign connected to Roger Stone

Link to tweet

?s=21


Olga Lautman
@OlgaNYC1211
How are felons organizing destructive campaigns against United States and calling for execution of government officials w impunity? It's really wild. 2021 things better change

Stop the Steal's massive disinformation campaign connected to Roger Stone
amp.cnn.com

[riverwalker]

3. I think that's why Gina Haspel visited McConnell

She knows. It was a twenty minute visit, she carried a locked briefcase. She has said before that she prefers hard paper copies instead of computers.

[True Blue American]

7. If McConnell had the guts

Goldwater and Rhodes did he would go with Gina to the WhiteHouse and force Trump to concede. It is going to happen any way.

[uponit7771]

4. K&R, Either the US has the worst polling of any developed country on planet Earth or some down ballo

... ballot shit happened that was horrible.

This is the second year the down ballot and state level polling has be horrid to abysmal

[Botany]

5. No way in hell Trump picked up 11 million new voters from 2016

n/t

[JI7]

6. I don't find it hard to believe. The country is full of shitty people

[Botany]

16. Trump did nothing to build up from his 2016 #s (which I think Vlad Daddy helped to goose), ....

.... he was bleeding support almost from the the inauguration, and he has killed > 250,000 Americans.
I don't think the polls were that wrong but it was the machines that made it closer than it really was.

And yes this country has lots of shitty people but 7 of the last 8 general elections the democratic
candidate received the most votes and the 1 time was 2004 and that election was very dirty.

JI7

[WinstonSmith4740]

19. My first thought, too.

We all knew we had to turn the vote out big time because they were going to cheat. Those voting machine companies are owned by Republicans...who knows what was pre-loaded into them. I think Vlad gave up on Donald months ago, and turned his attention to keeping the Senate because he knows McConnell can hobble a President, just like he did Obama. He spent $200 million to put an aluminum plant there right after sanctions were lifted. I said it in another post...there WAS a Blue Tsunami. But Vlad and the Republicans underestimated us (again) and just didn't cheat enough to overcome it.

[Botany]

21. The huge early vote should have put many of the races away by election day ...

... but they didn't. I don't think the polls were that wrong IMO.

[WinstonSmith4740]

26. Agree!

I don't think the polls were wrong at all...just like in 2016. Nobody foresaw the level of cheating he was capable of, or thought Vladimer would try to throw our election to his poodle...we were caught flat-footed. This time we were prepared. The troll farms didn't work, in fact, nothing those bastards tried worked. Fool me once...

[reACTIONary]

39. He did nothing, but...

... the number of voters increased. He got a percentage of that increase and it comes to around 10 million votes over 2016. That isn't really surprising or note worthy.

[reACTIONary]

38. Oh yes he did...

I ran the numbers based on 2016 stats from the census bureau and the 2020 estimates from the US Elections Project. Based on the increased number of voters and the increased turn out this year over 2016 there were about 21.4 million more votes cast this year. Trump is pulling about 47.4% of the vote, which gives him an estimated increase of about 10 million votes over 2016.

These are estimates, and the 11 million, wherever it came from is an estimate, so a 10 to 11 million plus up is quite reasonable.

[Botany]

40. Very well thought out and analytical but I respectfully disagree with it.

You are assuming a flat line analysis of the data without any external inputs that might
have skewed the #s in both 2016 and 2020.

Exit polls which for years were the gold standard of looking @ the vote stopped agreeing
with the vote #s after the introduction of electronic voting machines.

[True Blue American]

8. Kentucky was the worst.

A guy who has 13% approval rating wins overwhelmingly? Time for Beshear to stand up.

[uponit7771]

11. +1

[JI7]

14. Beshear probably wouldn't win the Senate because they view that as giving power to Pelosi and

Schumer .

It's different for Governor since they stay in their home state and don't work with those "anti god socialists" from california and new york.

Phil Bredesen of Tennessee is another one that was a popular Governor but lost the Senate Race .

This is important when looking at the Georgia Senate Races. I think most celebs need to stay out unless they have some connection to the state or are popular with key groups that could help in turnout.

[True Blue American]

29. Beshear is the Governor.

He should be looking into the election. Not the Senate.

https://elect.ky.gov/Pages/default.aspx

https://www.sos.ky.gov/elections/Documents/2020GeneralElection/EO-GeneralElection.pdf

[bdamomma]

27. It's that

dark money. McConnell would do us all a great favour if the "grim reaper" visited him. He is so dirty.

[True Blue American]

30. With those purple hands and blotches on his face something is wrong

But the election is way off in registered voters and those who voted. More people voted than registered.

[Generic Brad]

32. That was 13% nationwide, not in KY

All politics are local and McConnell brings home the bacon (or appears to).

[True Blue American]

35. But they do not like

Mitch in KY. He has always won by a slim margin.

[True Blue American]

36. Ky. Is still a very poor state

We support them. The only thing he brought in is a Russian Alumunum plant. Chao did that.

The record.

https://www.wkyufm.org/post/kentucky-second-most-dependent-state-federal-money

[Generic Brad]

37. McGrath never led in the polls

The outcome of the KY senatorial race was never in doubt. I live just south of the KY border and saw a lackluster campaign on her part. I don't like McConnell either, but he ran the better campaign.

[station agent]

9. Leave the conspiracy theories for the right

If you have facts present them. We have real work and real organizing to do to beat the plenty of very real republican voters out there. I get it, they cheat. Let’s try to stay disciplined and give the people something real to get behind like M4A, UBI. Green new deal and better social security.

[OldBaldy1701E]

17. Fact

Uninformed apathy is rampant in our culture. Fact: We are literally allowing the rich to dictate our response to this pandemic because they have programmed us to believe that this is the only way to survive. (Fact: it isn't). Fact: they have been doing this to us for many decades now. Fact: money is the only thing that makes the country go round. It didn't used to, but it does now. Fact: the uphill battle we progressives face is beyond daunting thanks to the above facts. And, as happy as I am that President-elect Biden is our next president, the simple fact is that he is not a messiah, nor is he the second coming. To expect him to magically snap his fingers and make this place utopia is right up there with any conspiracy theory... don't you think? (Fact: plenty of people seem to think this is exactly what is going to happen..)

[True Blue American]

31. Agree!

[Joinfortmill]

10. Agree and possibly worse in Kentucky.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. 2 arrested in Pennsylvania

Two QAnon suckers were arrested with a Hummer "full of fake ballots", 130 rounds, assault rifle, and QAnon decals (for camouflage). They were two blocks from the counting and were planning to submit the ballots, somehow. When they were arrested they were walking around with loaded handguns in violation of Penn law.

Attempted election fraud.

[Captain Zero]

13. I say turn the mathematicians loose on

Ohio and Iowa.
Probably some fun anomalies in the largest precincts. The GOP IS an old hand at it in Ohio.

[True Blue American]

33. That is why Thom Suddes

Popular Journalist calls them,” The State House gang!”

61 billion dollar bribe from nuclear and coal. Kasich left a 28 million dollar online Charter School scandal. Then we have good old Gym, covered up sex crimes for 7 years.

And DeWine who was doing a good job on the virus, had to kiss Trump’s ass to get supplies, then opened up too soon as Trump demanded. Back to level 3.

[True Blue American]

34. The largest Precincts

Where the jobs and working people are went to Biden. The rural areas,older, less educated voted for Trump.

Hamilton County, Cincinnati went for Biden, the north Biden. Even Athens County. Ohio University went for Biden. For some reason Millennials are moving there,highly Educated, probably can work anywhere. Could be all The Parks, Hocking Hills, Jackson Lake are pulling them in moderate housing costs,etc.

[DownriverDem]

15. Said it all along

about the money from Russia to the NRA and then filtered out to the repub candidates for their 2016 elections. How else to explain why the repubs suck up to and kowtow to trump?

[bdamomma]

28. What's that saying???

Follow the money? Yes indeed.

[notinkansas]

41. Don't forget the in-your-face right out in the open crippling of USPS.

Doesn't get more blatant than that. And also the purging of the voter rolls.

[panader0]

42. What stands out to me is that Biden won by 5 million plus votes,

and down ballot candidates were defeated. So did Democrats vote R down ballot, or did repubs
vote for biden but R down ballot. Something stinks.