Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in U.S. (PDB)

[oasis]

August 6, 2001 George Bush was handed a CIA prepared (PDB) alerting him of the intentions of Osama Bin Ladin. Bush and Condi Rice had ample time to assemble and coordinate a defense that would have avoided the disaster of Sept. 11.

So why does the MSM keep pumping the meme that the Clinton Administration's "transition delay" after Election 2000 was a contributing factor?

[MustLoveBeagles]

1. Short answer:

Bothsiderism

[oasis]

9. I've heard the "Clinton Admin transition" example from both CNN

and MSNBC. It is extremely annoying.

[mr_lebowski]

2. Because the M$M f***ing sucks at explaining things accurately? (nt)

[Cha]

37. YES.

[lisa58]

3. My thoughts exactly

[ffr]

4. All the above.

Because there's profit behind what they report.

[intrepidity]

5. I think they're trying to make the case that *any* delay could have consequences

Maybe that PDB isn't the best example, but the only one they could think of?

[Ninga]

6. Because the alternative answer is that Pres Cheney et al, totally disregarded the intel received

in the transition. And because of that, Pres Cheney et al, are murderous criminals.

[oasis]

15. We can't forget the Bush's relationship with the Saudis. nt

[Proud Liberal Dem]

36. Exactly

The Clinton WH and especially people like Richard Clarke were pretty adamant about warning the incoming WH about Al-Queda and the dangers they posed. Cheney, et. were extremely slow to take things seriously although there were some stories circulating that some members stopped traveling by air commercially in the months leading up to 9/11. In any event, it does not seem to be due to a lack of trying by Clinton officials and the transition delay wasn't caused by Clinton officials being *icks and refusing to concede. There were legit court challenges ongoing for awhile.

[uponit7771]

44. +1,

[PufPuf23]

7. Look to the ownership of the MSM.

The MSM sets the bounds of what is open for public discourse, confuses a much as enlightens by design, provides personalities that some like and other hate, and serves to normalize outrageous events and creeping fascism in general.

Need new Fairness Doctrine and anti-trust to break up the current media companies.

The CIA does not have clean hands (and never did). One ofthe CIA's main missions back when founded in 1947s was to imbed the various media with CIA assets.

[Doodley]

8. Media bias is always against Democrats.

[oasis]

21. The MSM Al Gore bias was always strong. nt

[Chili]

10. I know, I think that every time I hear that excuse.

Do they not remember the senate hearings, where Condoleeza Rice had to testify? I do.

[oasis]

12. Condi "Who woulda thunk it because we didn't connect the dots" Rice.

[Chili]

24. Yep.

That's her. They had 5 weeks to investigate.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

11. Bush's team was obviously aware of it.

I still recall reading articles in the Dayton Daily News about the threats, many weeks before 9/11. I think some members of the Bush administration even held some "drills" here (which didn't interest me) and elsewhere to supposedly prepare people for attacks.

[oasis]

17. IIRC, Bush was on vacay, so he paid little attention to PDBs. nt

[Buckeye_Democrat]

18. His administration was aware for sure.

There were articles written about it in my local newspaper, but usually not on the front pages.

They ignored several people in the intelligence community who had good and specific information, though.

[Captain Stern]

13. On a side note...anybody notice that we're really not worrying much about Islamic terrorists?

I'm guessing the terrorists pretty much gave up on terrorizing us.

They probably can't think of a way to fuck us over any more than we already fucked ourselves over by electing trump.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

14. I'm expecting it to be "ramped up" in the media soon.

We'll see.

Republicans have to create an outside threat somehow when Biden is in power.

[Me.]

16. Exactly...This Has Been Ticking Me Off

I think they are trying to use it as persuasion but it makes me angry

[oasis]

19. I believe they're taking a "subtle" jab at Bill Clinton and Al Gore. nt

[Buckeye_Democrat]

20. Bill O'Reilly immediately tried to blame Clinton.

Almost everyone in the media was expressing sadness and trying to stick with the facts after the attacks, and then that loud-mouth did his usual partisan and baseless attacks.

[oasis]

23. From O'Rielly it would be no surprise to me. The MSM these past few

days have been working the Clinton/Gore angle... ad nauseum.

[Me.]

34. I Don't Know Why

I believe Gore was cheated out of the presidency but for the sake of the country he stood down. Don't forget whose brother was governor of that state. I've since read that Justice O'Connor believes she made a mistake putting her thumb on the scale like that.

[oasis]

35. Scalia is the number one villain in the 2000 election theft. nt

[Me.]

46. Agreed

[LeftInTX]

22. They really need to look at why swearing in was moved from March 4th to Jan 20th

Roosevelt couldn't do anything for months, while the country slid deeper into depression

https://www.history.com/news/why-does-inauguration-day-fall-on-january-20

[oasis]

25. They need to stay on Trump's ass about letting go, because he lost.

btw, thanks for the link on the transition date change

[Make7]

26. 2000 election decided on Dec 12. This year's election, over one month sooner.

Transition delay? Doesn't the winner need to be determined for the transition to proceed?

We have our winner, no excuse for any delay.

[misanthrope]

27. Because that is what was in the 9/11 Commission Report

No one is saying it to "blame" Clinton.

[oasis]

30. At least they're not going so far as to say, "Gore should've conceded".....

not yet.

[uponit7771]

45. The 911 report does not say the Intel Miss was because of the transition

[roamer65]

28. It's irritating.

Bush ignored that goddam PDB.

[oasis]

31. Yup, that's why we were attacked. Delayed transition had nothing to do

with the 9/11 attack, it was the incompetence of Bush's administration.

[sarcasmo]

29. Will the color code chart be back next month?

[dajoki]

32. Yeah, I'm sick of hearing...

that the transition was the problem from the msm. Bush had plenty of warning.

[oasis]

33. The next time they come up with that b.s. I'm going to explode.

[radius777]

38. 9/11 happened many months after W was installed.

They had more than enough time but ignored the info the Clinton admin handed down to them (similar to how Trump admin ignored the pandemic playbook Obama left for them).

Repubs spent years trying to bring down Bill for a bj, thus distracting the gov't from dealing with terrorism etc. The idea that they 'cared' about national security is a joke. Clinton/Gore admin kept us safe while they did not.

Repubs suck - amazing how anybody still thinks they're good for the economy, war and peace, etc. They are only good for lining the pockets of the 1 percent and making racists and theocrats feel good about themselves.

[oasis]

40. We can't allow the MSM to rewrite history. Bushco was given a pass

because our nation was facing a crisis and had to “come together” in the fight against terrorism. A fine senator, and disabled veteran Democrat Max Cleland, was booted out of office for not buying in to 100% of Bush policy. I will never forget that.

[canetoad]

39. Unrec

"Pumping the meme?" Really ?

Let it go.

[oasis]

41. Say "pretty please" and I'll think about it.

[Kid Berwyn]

42. Weird, that.

Background n Details... https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/9-11-records-show-warnings-were-urgent-2766540.php



Continues... https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB343/index.htm

Pretzeldent’s Daily Brief (red.) in PDF: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB116/pdb8-6-2001.pdf

[oasis]

43. Thank you, Kid Berwyn for these helpful links.