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durablend

(7,459 posts)
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 08:42 PM Nov 2020

Once again, some of you need to wake up

"Well we need to have a conversation with them. Try to understand what they're really feeling. Get to know what's really bothering them. We need to reach out to the heartland of America."



FUCK THEM AND THEIR FEELINGS

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Once again, some of you need to wake up (Original Post) durablend Nov 2020 OP
You will be wasting your time. In the words of Ron White.. Resistance1 Nov 2020 #1
I made a post about that myself that I thought was constructive criticism doc03 Nov 2020 #2
Here's the problem that I see with reconciliation kurtcagle Nov 2020 #5
no. we need to fix voter suppression and gerrymandering and make them a perpetual minority. bullimiami Nov 2020 #3
THIS!!!! CatWoman Nov 2020 #4
Who was the quote from? Ferrets are Cool Nov 2020 #6

doc03

(35,324 posts)
2. I made a post about that myself that I thought was constructive criticism
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 08:54 PM
Nov 2020

but it was removed. I live in what is called flyover country, nobody wants to hear about us here. Good luck.

kurtcagle

(1,602 posts)
5. Here's the problem that I see with reconciliation
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 09:48 PM
Nov 2020

Had Trump governed at any point in his presidency towards the middle, attempting to reach out to those on the other side of the aisle, had there been any degree of civility between the GOP and the Democrats, rather than near continuous streams of lies and mistruths, then I'd say that the Trumpsters may have gained a degree of sympathy as people who needed to be more fully considered within the governing process. That hope died about six months into Trump's presidency. All too many of the ones who did vote for him did so knowing full well that he had no interest in the remaining 58% of the population, and that, as far as Trump was concerned, they should all die.

Did you lose your coal mining job? Sorry, not sorry. There were alternatives out there for people to transition out to what would likely have been better-paying jobs, but they were too lazy to take those opportunities. Are your religious rights being trampled? When suddenly mosques and synagogues and temples start appearing in your towns and, rather than accepting them as people of faith you start to vandalize and firebomb them, then you have become a hypocrite. Don't like socialism? Turn off goddamn Fox "News" and spend some time varying where you get your facts from. Afraid they'll take your guns away? When you walk around with an assault rifle and use it to threaten or intimidate or threatens, hell, yeah, we'll take the damn things away from you.

This is not addressed to the poster. I have family in 'flyover country' and have watched them drink the koolaid, have argued vociferously for hours with them about waking up and seeing what's really happening. One of them worked with the National Guard, had a unit dispatched to California for firefighting until California ran out of budget, then everything was recalled, awaiting a National Emergency call from Trump ... that never came. I haven't talked to him lately, but I doubt he voted for Biden. Yet when Red States get hit with hurricanes or floods, there's Trump calling out the National Guard... only I doubt that now, when the race is over, he's likely to even care about them anymore.

So, at this point, after four years of their being jerks, if they should suddenly turn around with hat in hand, I'm going to be a lot more leery about helping them. Is that being a good Democrat? I don't know, but I have to admit that it might be a prudent Democrat at this stage.

bullimiami

(13,083 posts)
3. no. we need to fix voter suppression and gerrymandering and make them a perpetual minority.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 08:55 PM
Nov 2020

then they can figure us out.

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