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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI hate to be a downer, bur we probably lost the House for a decade.
We only barely retained the House for the next two years. In 2022, the vote usually goes to the opposition Party. The GOP retained control of many States, and the Supreme Court has OKed gerrymandering. With this a Census year, like 2010, they can give themselves as many House districts as they want.
Sorry for the pessimism, but I don't see voters waking up to who the GOP are. If they backed the GOP this year, with the shit Trump pulled with the complete backing of the GOP, I don't see why they would move away from them in 2022.
Sorry for the pessimism, but that is the reality we face.
AZ8theist
(5,447 posts)More Repuke senate seats up in 22. We may lose the house and gain the senate.
uponit7771
(90,329 posts)AZ8theist
(5,447 posts)Unfortunately, losing the House will have Gym Jordan and Vladimr Nunes leading endless IDIOTIC investigations....
uponit7771
(90,329 posts).... a Democratic president
Bonn1997
(1,675 posts)Wouldnt a law changing the number of justices on the Supreme Court need to be passed?
Celerity
(43,255 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)A Democratic Senate can help Biden fill vacancies that come up during his term, which is a good start.
Celerity
(43,255 posts)replacing Breyer with another liberal still leaves us down 6-3
and there are few lower court vacancies after Rump and Moscow have rammed through so many asshats
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Celerity
(43,255 posts)Celerity
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At-Risk (even if marginal) DemsIn order of risk
Georgia (IF Warnock wins the runoff with Loeffler)
Nevada Catherine Cortez Masto (Brian Sandoval would be by far the toughest Rethug to beat from what I see)
Arizona Mark Kelly (It will not be McSally running against him, lolol)
New Hampshire Maggie Hassan (her two strongest opponents would probably be Former Senator Kelly Ayotte and Governor Sununu)
Vermont Patrick Leahy (IF he retires, the very popular Rethug Governor Phil Scott may prove to be trouble)
Colorado Michael Bennet (I see little chance for him to lose)
Possible Rethug Flips
In order of risk
North Carolina Open Seat Jeff Jackson FTW
Pennsylvania Open Seat Tom Wolf FTW (he is term limited)
Wisconsin Ron Johnson (asshat deluxe, I fucking hate this clown) Mandela Barnes FTW
Georgia Loeffler (unless we win it in the runoff) Sally Yates or Jason Carter perhaps, too early to tell
Florida Marco Rubio Val Demmings, or perhaps Charlie Crist or Stephanie Murphy or Gwen Graham
Iowa Chuck Grassley (may retire he will turn 90yo in the first year of his next term if he runs, if he retires we have a good shot, Vilsack should run, he should have ran in 2020, or perhaps Axne)
Kansas Jerry Moran Only shot we have, and it would be a decent one, is if Sibelius runs this time, she should have ran in 2020) If she refuses again, forget winning this seat, and it still will be hard even if she does
Kentucky Rand Paul (fucking berk)
Ohio Rob Portman
Indiana Todd Young (no clue if Buttigieg would try, Indiana is SO Red now, ffs)
Missouri Roy Blunt
edhopper
(33,552 posts)winning any of the GOP flips.
Celerity
(43,255 posts)style maelstrom.
I cannot see it being anywhere near THAT bad though, and I think we have great shots at flipping PA and NC. Wolf and Jackson are superb candidates.
Wisconsin Ron Johnson
Georgia Loeffler (unless we win it in the runoff)
Florida Marco Rubio
Iowa (if Grassley retires)
are decent chances as well
uponit7771
(90,329 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)I have the same hope for the Georgia run-off elections.
-Laelth
uponit7771
(90,329 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,428 posts)There's no way a poll can account for voter suppression and gerrymandering. I think the simple explanation is that polls are fairly accurate, represent what the public does want, and the difference is due to republicon methods of cheating & stealing.
davekriss
(4,616 posts)Doesnt gerrymandering refer to the drawing up of congressional districts in a manner that maximizes outcomes for one party? This is done once every 10 years by the state legislatures. The likely mix of Repub/Dems in the House of Representatives is thereafter set for a decade. So what is important here is who wins the state houses, and we did meh there.
What the polls do not account for is the cheating. Nate Silver made it clear before the election that he was confident that his model did a good measure of the will of the people, but warned that it did not take in to account the illegalities of voter suppression, voter role tweaking, man-in-the-middle vote count manipulation, and the so on. Even with that, his model was pretty good: it picked the winners that Biden needed to win right past the tipping point (Pennsylvania being the tipping point) and a few more (Arizona, Georgia).
Nates models were not as good when predicting outcomes for the Senate and House.
OnDoutside
(19,949 posts)Biden administration to lift the tariffs, which will demonstrably help farmers (even better if they can give reliefs to small farmers rather than big farm corporations).
bucolic_frolic
(43,115 posts)It won't always be this way.
uponit7771
(90,329 posts)Bradshaw3
(7,495 posts)What happened down ballot not just in Congress but in the statehouses was the opposite of what was expected: a change election for Democrats and democracy. Losing House seats, likely failing to flip the Senate and not winning statehouses after the kind of incompetence and divisiveness the repubs displayed the last four years is disheartening for the future. We can't keep our heads in the sand and deny what happened (for example me being told on here that Tom Perez did a great job) or Democrats will again be just holding on when they should be running things.
uponit7771
(90,329 posts).... No other country puts up with polling does bad for so long tilted towards one political party we need answers from these posters they know what's up or should if they're worth a damn
Bradshaw3
(7,495 posts)Do you know polling from other countries and how it's better? I haven't read a good answer as to why it was off but regardless Dems lost and maybe improved polling would help target races and issues in the future.
JCMach1
(27,555 posts)And see what happens.
All you need to do.
samnsara
(17,615 posts)...but I would rather be someone who has independent thought and critical thinking than be a Stepford wife.
LymphocyteLover
(5,640 posts)and they synergize with Trump
Accurate assessment
Bradshaw3
(7,495 posts)I just hope the critical thinkers are the ones in charge in the future. We've seen what a lack of intelligent approaches to problems has dome to our people and it does not bode well if the venal idiots get back in charge.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)betsuni
(25,447 posts)Of course a lot of people will blame Democrats for not fixing everything in two years, same as they always do.
that is how it goes. GOP fucks things up and the Dems are blamed for not fixing it.
kentuck
(111,072 posts)If Democrats can do something about the gerrymandering, I think they will be in good shape.
edhopper
(33,552 posts)so we aren't.
calguy
(5,304 posts)I keep saying if the dems don't learn how to temper their far left messaging they will continue to scare off the moderate votes required to sustain a solid majority going forward.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)JUST STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Show me FAR LEFT MESSAGING in our Democratic Platform. I DARE YOU.
calguy
(5,304 posts)Reparations is also a big loser. Free college also doesn't fly in middle America. I could go on and on.
I'm not saying these things are bad. I am saying that a whole lot of people we need to vote for us think they are bad. Until we learn to communicate our message without scaring the shit out of a large segment of voters, voters we NEED, then it's going to be a lot harder to win. It's all how we communicate.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)Find me ONE PLACE in our Platform where we indicate that we want to DEFUND THE POLICE. You can't do it because it doesn't exist.
It is a LIE of the repug party. They LIE, LIE and LIE and people fall for it. They say ONE time that a LIE came from the far left extremists and people believe it. Just STOP.
calguy
(5,304 posts)Some democrat somewhere said it. The GOP uses it to brand every democrat as being for. It's a lie. But it works.
I rest my case.
LymphocyteLover
(5,640 posts)the problem is rightwing media
betsuni
(25,447 posts)LymphocyteLover
(5,640 posts)Still, she is an outlier and we can't control everything our caucus says. We really shouldn't let the right define Democrats by AOC.
betsuni
(25,447 posts)Democrats are always criticized for "giving ammunition" to Republicans, often for things they have no control over. This wasn't that.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)How the hell are Democratic politicians supposed to control what people see on the streets? But yes, this "case" is closed because you don't have one. Have a great day.
CTyankee
(63,900 posts)THE major issue. So our party's job during the Biden Administration will be to disabuse the media of this notion. It's as simple, and as difficult, as that. We need prominently placed stories in the media about how communities are working with the police departments to improve community relations. Lift up the conversation to cooperation, understanding and shared values.We need the help of artists, song writers, reporters for both print and other communications media (all of them) to publish responsibly and truthfully.
I think we can engage academia in this effort. We have many communications media courses and majors in our country, state universities and community colleges, who can undertake this task.
Things do not have to be static, unmoving. We can and must change the rhetoric.
edhopper
(33,552 posts)the GOP scenarios.
CTyankee
(63,900 posts)that its stories are more sellable to the the American public?
If you watch "Morning Joe" you hear more from regulars who write for the NYT, the Washington Post, and other print and electronic media. That show seems to be extremely popular. Joe Scarborough is forthright in telling his story about moving away from the GOP and now and Independent. And he regularly explains why, how the "party left" him, not the other way around.
Look, this is not going to be easy but media who are sympathetic to our Democratic values must be nurtured and heard. And the more the Right goes after Joe S. the louder our voices become.
edhopper
(33,552 posts)including their messaging is better, but also the media's fear of being seen as "liberal" so they err in giving the GOP side of things.
CTyankee
(63,900 posts)liberal. They often protest that what they report is the truth. They get huffy about it. I see a lot of disgust on their faces. And often they come right out and blame RW outlets by name, or they just say that a lie is a lie. Rachel does that and she has an hour long show. So do some others who are prominent on MSNBC.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)Right?
edhopper
(33,552 posts)it is a powerful narrative to overcome.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)edhopper
(33,552 posts)do not read the Dem platform. They see these topic talked about in the media. Defunding the Police, no matter how much of a bullshit nonissue it was, lost us votes.
I dare you to show me how this was not a big topic in the media and hung around the Democrats.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)This was and is NOT a problem caused by Democratic politicians. And I dare YOU to prove to me that it was.
edhopper
(33,552 posts)but a BIG problem non the less that must be addressed.
betsuni
(25,447 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)I don't know how to stop the MSM from treating the liberal message as somehow EVIL. It is quite clear that the EVIL comes from the right. Caging kids and ignoring a pandemic which has killed a quarter of a million Americans is largely ignored while they spend hours and hours on a line that was said by ONE politician and a few protesters that may or may not have been Democratic voters.
Somehow we must make the msm to understand that it's ok to be viewed as Liberal because WE are on the side of honesty and compassion.
LOL
calguy
(5,304 posts)If you can't appeal to those in the middle, you won't be winning many elections.
LymphocyteLover
(5,640 posts)calguy
(5,304 posts)Both sides appeal to the middle. They have been appealing to more of them than we are historically speaking.
LymphocyteLover
(5,640 posts)gerrymandering, vote suppression, the electoral college, FoxNews and a false sense of balance from the MSM seems to be what keeps us from winning more, from what I can tell.
MacKasey
(986 posts)With Jamie Harrison leading the way
Using the Stacy Abrams model
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)the repugs. Yes, our country is filled with a LOT of hate and racism, but it is slowly dying out. I will NOT lose hope.
MacKasey
(986 posts)When we let republicans define us we lose
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)betsuni
(25,447 posts)Logic and facts don't work.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)I don't have the answers. But our politicians must do two things. Prove with actions that we work for the people of America AND hire people like The Lincoln Project to get OUR message out. That part can't be as hard as we seem to think it is. We also have to stop "going high". That only lets the repugs walk all over us.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Democratic consultants seem to routinely miss key and important opportunities. Republicans claim to be better for business, investment and taxes, yet over 100 years of historical results show that is a lie, yet democratic consultants routinely fail to research the historical record and then crystallize the findings into clear imagery that the average man and woman can understand.
We also must figure out how to not nominate candidates that have skeletons in their closets or who are actively doing things that will turn off voters, risqué works for republicans, but it doesnt work for us. Democratic voters actually value values such as morals and integrity, if push comes to shove, they wont fully back a candidate in a General election who has negative things being uncovered on him or her.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)Al didn't have any skeletons in his closet, yet he was still pushed from the party. That was wrong then and is still wrong today.
Yes, the hypocrisy is glaring when it comes to Repug voters. I don't know how to fix that.
And we will never rid ourselves of the occasional stupid candidate who decides it's a good thing to have an affair during his or her candidacy.
moose65
(3,166 posts)Those consultants have been costing us seats for 10 years.
They are the ones who told candidates to run from Obama in 2010 and 2014.
They are the ones who constantly tell Dems that they have to moderate their views to appeal to Republicans.
Hows that working out so far??
Midwestern Democrat
(806 posts)One of the biggest cop out lines put out by a flailing business is "It's not the product, it's the salesmen" - i.e. our product and our executive leadership is just fine - it's just the salesmen that suck - well, there's comes a point when you can't get away with that line anymore.
I know there won't be any changes of substance this year, but if 2022 goes bad, I certainly hope everything is on the table - I mean, how many times can you watch the same movie and be shocked that the hero dies at the end?
LymphocyteLover
(5,640 posts)hard to reach rural Americans glued to FoxNews and conservative media
ooky
(8,920 posts)It seems to me that we can either wait decades for demographic changes to sort it out or find an effective way of telling voters who the GOP are ourselves. I prefer the latter, so we don't die waiting for the demographics to change. The GOP has no problem telling voters who we are, Fox News does it everyday. We know it's all lies, but that doesn't seem to matter to those who keep watching Fox News and keep voting for the GOP. We need to find a way to counter that other than just trying to outvote them every election.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Republicans claim to be better in a number of areas that they are not, and our messaging allows them to win the day with their lies.
marmar
(77,066 posts)His cult might be delusional, but they are energetic.
Sunsky
(1,737 posts)Pessimism doesn't equate to realism. Instead of being negative, those with that thought process should help us make sure it is not so. Instead of distributing doom and gloom, be a motivational force to help us retain the house. We did retain the house this year (even with those sleeping voters who are unaware of who the GOP are and other conditions you've laid out), though we lost seats and we can retain the house in two years. It will be challenging but not impossible.
The new Democratic-led House hasn't even begun yet some of us are predicting a loss for the next one to come. Sigh.
edhopper
(33,552 posts)we would win the Senate and gain in the House.
In this case, what I describe is real, it is just a depressing reality.
Because I can promise nothing, that's realism. I cannot promise victory or defeat but I'll do my part to shift the odds in our favor.
Our definition of what is real seems to differ. What I've read here is pessimism.
Yeehah
(4,574 posts)Maybe take a nap.
edhopper
(33,552 posts)Close my eyes to reality, maybe it will go away.
Yeehah
(4,574 posts)Tell me more about this "reality."
Ignore oncoming problems. Why not?
Takket
(21,550 posts)Instead of lamenting a loss in two years?
You havent even given Biden a chance to show the country he and our party can lead.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)And Republicans already gerrymandered districts after the last census, while they retained control of more state legislatures than control even now, post 2020 election. They can't gerrymander districts more to their liking than they already have, and they still lost the House in 2018, and with the whole House up for reelection in 2020, Democrats still won a majority of seats there.
If all things stayed equal, the continued diversification of our nation and the aging out of a set of voters much more friendly to Republicans than the emerging younger generations bodes poorly for Republicans. But in the end it always comes down to turnout.
edhopper
(33,552 posts)our majority is just one seat. And we don't have the Senate.
I see that as 2018 saved our ass, not a big win this time.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)But in light of that one big regard, 2020 saved our ass even bigger time. Yes, 2022 is shaping up to be a critical contest.
moose65
(3,166 posts)Nope.
Currently Dems have 219, and there are 13 seats that havent been called. At least 3 of those have the Dem leading at the moment. Dems will probably end up with 222-225 seats when its all over.
edhopper
(33,552 posts)but going from almost 40 seats up to maybe 5 is a bad sign.
Silent3
(15,181 posts)And how much bad shit comes out, that we haven't learned yet, about what Trump's been doing for the last four years.
I can see plenty of ways for this to go either way. The most positive scenario is that we come out of the pandemic and the economy improves a lot, and that has people happy with Democrats two years from now.
On top of that Trump, and his many enablers will possibly be caught at (and hopefully many convicted for) crimes committed these past few years, creating enough scandal and disgrace that some of it even breaks through to a small, but electorially significant, number of Republican voters.
LymphocyteLover
(5,640 posts)are a HUGE number of senate seats we could win if we get our act together and keeping the house is critical.
Happy Hoosier
(7,274 posts)Joe and Kamala arent even sworn in yet and were already swamped with infighting and doom and gloom! FFS, keep it together people!!!!
bucolic_frolic
(43,115 posts)Slick and expensive mail fliers is not reaching potential new Democrats. It's more about fundraising.
I guess we're lost and might as well give up even before the Biden admin has a chance
karynnj
(59,501 posts)The reason that the party in power usually loses seats in the mid term is because most of the time they won the very close races as they won the Presidency. This time, we came in with the seats defined in 2018 when we won almost every close district. In the 2020 election, BOTH sides brought more people out. Every district is a microcosm with its own characteristics.
Where we could have a problem is if things - health and or economy - are seen to be worse and getting even worse than they were under Donald Trump. In fact, covid IS getting worse right now. While fighting the spread of the virus is the number one thing that needs to be done, the peak of covid is likely in the future when Biden is President. We need to make sure that we do better on communications than we have often done. If we take the right steps, by 2022, the covid pandemic will have receded substantially. (I wonder if winter 21/22 might be very very important. We need it to be far less bad than this winter. )
One problem we might have is that the Trump tax cuts, which are unsustainable. Economically, these tax cuts were a stimulus - at a time when the economy did not need it. While more money went to the top 1%, most people got at least a small gain - other than upper middle class and higher people in states like NY, NJ, CT and CA who had their mortgage and state taxes deduction capped. (Trump et al used that in the elections when they said that "ending the Trump tax cut would be bad for the middle class" - note that the states where people were hurt are reliably blue.) Trump's "strong" economy claims all flow from that tax cut. (He throws in the decrease in regulations.)
I expect that the Republicans will suddenly - en masse - see that the deficit has sky rocketed. They will likely blame it on the extra money spent in covid relief, ignoring that the deficit started to rise before the pandemic. When the tax cut was passed, they used the usual Republican voodoo economics to claim that the tax cut would lead to higher tax revenue because it would stimulate the economy enough to recoup tax revenue lost to lower rates. (Remember in 2009 that the House and Senate both had to find savings and small tax increases to make ACA revenue neutral - even as it provided great benefits to the country?)
I suspect the Republican will fight to preserve ALL of the Trump tax cuts, while arguing against any new programs and for actually cutting existing programs. We need to fight that by making people understand the choice - restoring the tax rates for the wealthy versus cuts that hurt people already hurting and not NOW having the stimulus when it IS needed.
The next few years won't be easy. So much needs to be fixed and the sources of faux news have increased exponentially.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)essaynnc
(801 posts)Every m-f year, the repubs control the messaging and stick us with their lables... defund the police, John Kerry is a coward, we're baby killers, crooked Hillary, tax and spend democrats, etc, etc. and they repeat it untill it sinks in. I'm not sure that I've ever heard anything like a slogan come from the democrats. We've already got the platform, and it's a good one. let's use it, come up with sound bites and use them...advertising campaigns from the get go..START NOW
NM
dustyscamp
(2,223 posts)Save the planning, messaging, gotv for the last minute. Trump & the GOP will do the same
essaynnc
(801 posts)yes, we are pretty good at waiting untill the last moment, just like the republicans DON'T !!!!!
SmartVoter22
(639 posts)You are right, under normal circumstances. But, and that is a big but...
the pandemic, Trump's legal issues and GOP inaction will continue until 2022. Those will be the news and the moderate Republican voter is not likely to see all that as favorable. I expect Dems will have an advantage, as many GOP Senators have claimed retirement for 2022.
We must remind the moderate GOP voter what that party did in 2020 and 2019, 2018 and 2017.
They failed to kill off the ACA, failed on North Korea, Russia and Trump's China trade deal never materialized.
We must also remind voters, with your normal circumstances, that the GOP failed to prevent the same thing they tell us every election, and those are:
1) We are all gonna die, become a socialist state and/or reinstate a monarchy.
2) Immigrants will rape & kill everyone, because world immigration to the US only goes through Mexico?
3) The economy will collapse, the dollar will have Lenin's portrait on it and the deep state will let it happen.
4) Benghazi, or Hillary's back or watch out for that FDR guy- he's a troublemaker.
By 2022, the Trump legal issues will have dominated the news. Trump will drag those out as long as he can. It may take until 2022, for the rape allegations to be heard in court which should affect Evangelical voters. His taxes and shady banking likely will have been exposed. The RNC may have gone into illegal territory, too.
I hope Biden can seat a full Federal Elections Commission which will investigate, the current and future claims, that Trump intentionally avoided, by not seating a full commission.
judeling
(1,086 posts)Far from losing the house for a Decade I expect we will gain seats and establish a firm governing majority.
First look at the landscape. To begin the states are pretty much already at max gerrymander. A legislature will be hard pressed to concentrate or urban core vote any more then it already is. Last cycle the GOP was able to play offense with gerrymandering, this cycle because of both demographics and internal migration they will be playing defense. Their rural base has gotten redder, but also smaller in other words they have concentrated themselves just as the Urban shift concentrated us. The immediate effect will be to make the purple house seats we have gained Bluer and the purple hose seat they hold slightly redder at best. However the trends will be in place and those red tinged purple seats will become the next battle grounds. The best they can hope to do is to fight a retreat until the Party is able to shift more towards the center.
That is true nationally as well. The Sunbelt is getting bluer as it gains population. The Rustbelt is not getting any Redder and indeed is likely to get Bluer also. Look at both Minnesota and Michigan. They have finished the sorting and back to Blue solidly the rest of the Midwest is likely to follow (if slowly). The seats they are likely to lose will turn out to be Red and the seats the Sunbelt gains are likely to be blue.
Next, we are going to be coming out of the pandemic. There will be a positive wave flowing. The nature of both the health and economic crisis favors Democratic solutions. Part of the general resistance to active measures to help that Trump and the GOP have shown is that the possible actions are at there core detrimental to their narrative. But we are likely to see the GDP rise over the next two years at a 4-5 percent range instead of trend in the 2-3 percent range we have seen. That alone will solidify our gains.
So looking ahead 2022 is more likely to resemble 1934 then the normal mid-term. At least modest if not robust gains by the party in power.
BlueWavePsych
(2,635 posts)So, let's win the GA runoffs then squabble later.
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)edhopper
(33,552 posts)or is that just the reality of who the voters are?
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)I understand your concern, but 2 years from now the voters are going to judge things on what's going on in 2022, not what went on during the reign of Trump. Come election time in 2022, if Biden is doing well in the voters eyes, then it will be reflected in the outcome of the races. I would rather speculate that Biden is going to be successful, and if he is, we'll not only increase our House numbers but we'll get a strong hold on the Senate as well.
edhopper
(33,552 posts)Noe that they have control of most States? What about that?
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)It's 12 days after the election, and you're already dooming and glooming about 2022?
FFS.
Sid
because we have to deal with this starting January 21st. Including a GOP Senate.
We just defeated an incumbent for President for Chrissakes.
edhopper
(33,552 posts)the worst President in American History. And I am not talking the EC. The margins in the popular vote were too close for comfort. You have more faith in the voters than I do.
treestar
(82,383 posts)The HOUSE? It's the one thing that is at least on its face Democratic. There's no hard and fast rule that it has to go to the opposition two years later. It stayed R through Bush's term. It's also not a hard and fast rule that incumbents always win. We just prove that does not have to be. Or whoever wins Iowa wins the primary.
This is practically superstition.
czarjak
(11,266 posts)Republican policies only benefit the rich. If youre not rich and voting Republican, youre slitting your own throat. None of my business though?
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)achieve...Jesus. Biden isn't hasn't been inaugurated yet. I am trashing this.
Eid Ma Clack Shaw
(490 posts)There shouldnt be a congressional district in New York State that doesnt run through Manhattan or the Bronx and California's Dem-stacked redistricting commission needs to take a similar view when it comes to ensuring the likes of Darrell Issa need an 80-20 win in Compton to stand a chance of losing by a point.
Gerrymandering is a disgrace, it should not be allowed to happen but it will never, ever get any better while there is no incentive for Republicans to come to the table. The road to a national consensus on the issue begins by playing them at their own game.
Aepps22
(166 posts)I'm actually very pleased with the election results and I'm more positive than negative on what the Dems did. With all of the Gerrymandering, cheating and lies to get the type of turnout we did was Amazing. Losing some of the house races was a direct result of the Trump wave in red districts. Hard to win when their Obama is on the ballot. The only Senate race that was a disappointment was the Susan Collins race. I don't think Maine has the minority demographics to drive up the votes in the city which hurt Sara Gideon but the polling was totally off in that state. Cal Cunningham in NC wasn't going to win because he was running too far behind Joe and Joe didn't beat Trump there. The fact that Joe won Georgia is amazing and points to the future. We turn NC and GA blue. We keep the blue wall intact though I recognize the margins will be tight, keep GA and AZ blue we have a great path. We need to make sure that we keep our promises to Black and Latino voters and we will be fine.
yellowcanine
(35,698 posts)big ones are no Trump and more and more young people becoming old enough to vote and getting inspired to vote. A strong environmental program will win their votes.
yellowcanine
(35,698 posts)Yavin4
(35,430 posts)take their late 20th century political issues with them. For example, religious affiliation is on a steep decline in America with younger generations. People are living under extreme income inequality so there's no energy for more tax cuts for the rich.
Finally, it's not going to be easy for the Republicans to find another Trump.
sarisataka
(18,558 posts)I have been assured dozens of times over the past years that the final male has been put in their coffin