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We won because of the base

You try to win the 'base' in purple GA...you lose. Our opportunities are in red and purple states.

our base turned out to vote as much as the white evangelicals do. We’d probably have a lot more seats. White evangelicals were 42% of the white vote but are only like 25% of the white population.

As noted in another thread, this is why Democrats lost some house and senate seats. Sad but true reality at this time. Hopefully this changes going forward.

Seriously, the Democrats need to get their shit together where messaging is concerned.

-Laelth

we must continue trying to persuade voters who will only be persuaded to vote Democratic if we kick a large portion of our base to the curb.

Some people are mistaking our call to turn out our base as if we are saying we have to move left. We don’t. We just need huge turnout among key constituencies, specifically minorities.

on that works in dark blue states. This is a center left or even center right country...

I object to expecting black and brown voters to make room in the tent for racists - especially since those racists can only be enticed into the tent if assured that the black and brown people will be relegated to the back.

will benefit everyone and kicks no one to the curb. You have to appeal to voters to win. And can I just say that people who win by 30 points in deep blue districts are not the base exclusively. We lost states, we lost house seats and we didn't do as well in the Senate as expected...time to examine policies that work. Biden managed to win by a moderate approach that reached out to everyone. That works clearly.

but, no one listens to people without a whole lot of money to put in Super PACs.

If we could increase turnout among our base, especially minorities, to something like 80% we could be competitive even in states like Mississippi. We don’t even have to move right or left. Just get our people out to vote, just like the Repubs get the evangelicals to come out.

Excellent points!!

and by a lot of votes. That disproves the theory of only appealing to the base pretty conclusively.

We came damn close to losing the house because we did not appeal to voters in some red or purple districts . There is not enough 'base' to give us the house or the senate.

to get the base out to vote. They didn't go out of their way to appeal to racist Trump voters and they proudly embraced the "identity politics" that the "better tone down the race stuff because it turns off the working class" crowd kept telling them to stay away from.

and specifically rejected M4All and defund the police. Appealing to Trump voters would have been a rejection of what our demcocracy is supposed to be about. Identity politics is not the same as trying to fix the inequities caused by identity politics.

or is not centered on white people's grievances is "identity politics."

the people decrying identity politics are the same ones promoting it. I don't intend to join them. Two wrongs do not make a right.

The No Party people are the other 1/3. Neither party can win if they appeal only to their base. But getting out the base and like-minded NPs is how to win.

But tell me why republicans continue to win the senate/governors elections by just appealing to their base, and then when they get into their office they govern to the base.

We will never win without party loyalty. And adopting policies that don't sell in an area we are trying to win is never going to work.

Unfortunately, we also have people in our party who don't think those voters are all that important.

EVERY DAY The "talking points" go out to Fox hosts, RW radio, and the more extreme newsmux, infosmores, and other utube "influencers".

Propaganda Works. Organized propaganda is devastating.

And things have gotten to the point that the rubes will believe ANYTHING they say.

... then we also need to admit that Bernie Sanders hasn't helped us a single bit.
It's one or the other.

I don't think in the long run, that would be a winning strategy for Democrats. We are more diverse as a party both culturally and ideologically. If we only spoke to our base, we would lose. Obama had voters that turned around and voted for Trump in 2016 and there were Trump voters who switched to Biden this election.

There actually are voters in the middle who do vote for both parties over the years. When our message is perceived as too liberal, even if its not in reality, we often lose some of the middle voters to republicans. Not all voters are like us. They aren't all up-to-date on politics and current events 24/7. They often base their decisions on less substantive information, gut instinct, remarks on TV, political ads, or something they heard from friends and relatives.

As someone else on this thread mentioned, we need to work on messaging, but we are different than republicans and we can't campaign like them. Republicans tend to campaign on fear, which can have a broad appeal, while Democrats are more inclined to focus on the positive, offering real solutions to people's problems. We just have to get better at reaching more people.

The Latino electorate in Georgia, with about a quarter million registered voters, has been growing and its turnout has been increasing.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/latino-voters-georgia-get-attention-high-stakes-senate-races-n1247574