Do you believe that there could be massive die-off with serious ill people who do not believe...

[warrior1]

covid is real?

[samnsara]

2. yes.. we will be like that sci fi movies where there are socially advanced underground dwellers (us)

...and the uninformed deformed ill surface dwellers who are quickly dying off ( them)

[dweller]

27. I like the way you think

replying from here in my 🕳

✌🏻

[Klaralven]

3. Not massive, but there are people who simply don't seek care and die at home

They may or may not be counted as Covid deaths.

[Midnight Writer]

36. I reckon that could be a significant number.

This stuff can sneak up and go lethal very quickly.

I have read of people going from a slight fever to respiratory distress in less than 24 hours.

Add to that people who just don't go to doctors, people living alone that don't seek help in time, and people who avoid medical treatment because they can't pay for it.

[ProfessorGAC]

4. Yes

One post today by a nurse, & a post yesterday quoting a doctor saying that patients coming off a ventilator yelled at them because they couldn't have had COVID. COVID doesn't exist, they say.
People in ICU, saying COVID is fake!
So, I think the answer to your question is yes.

[LymphocyteLover]

6. yeah, lots of stories of that

like here--

Link to tweet

[keithbvadu2]

29. Tell 'em that Trump is holding back that magic medicine.

[LymphocyteLover]

40. sadly I doubt they would believe it

[warrior1]

7. also

because red states are massively underfunding hospitals and rural communities will suffer.

I just wonder if President-elect Biden will be able to reason and reach them.

[PJMcK]

13. Let them die

Red state voters need to learn an important lesson:

ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!

Vote for Republicans and you'll get shitty government and crappy services.

I have no more fucks to give for idiots who vote against their own interests.

Let them die.

[Blue_true]

16. Honestly, I have gravitated to that Shermanesque position.

Republican voters in red areas are convinced that THEY support their state with taxes and other things. The reality is they are dependent on populated areas of their states for virtually everything, including schools, roads and electricity. It is about time that they get left to live out their rugged individual fantasies, IMO. Blue rural people should temporarily decamp to smarter places while Darwinism among the rurals plays out.

[Volaris]

35. I wonder if farmland will be cheap in the next few years...

I'm not putting the sarcasm tag here cause I'm only half kidding.

[LymphocyteLover]

5. depends how you define massive

there will be a few hundred thousand more death in the coming months and a large number of them don't believe in COVID. Will it change anyone's mind? Dunno.

But this is just so fucked up.

Link to tweet

[warrior1]

8. thanks

I too, read this last night. smh

[treestar]

15. Just watch. They will start believing it exists

and blame Biden for it.

[LymphocyteLover]

9. I think the big question is -- will the massive # of deaths in the next few months

change our politics at all?

I certainly don't think it will help Republicans.

I don't think the bills that are due from this disaster president are close to being fully realized.

[Raven123]

10. There are a lot of variables

Improved understanding of COVID-19 has lowered the death rate. Health care providers don’t discriminate. If facilities reach 100% capacity in space, personnel and equipment, then Darwin will be in charge, I suspect.

[tinrobot]

11. Darwin works in mysterious ways.

Who knows how massive it will be, but those who don't take it seriously increase their risk many times.

That will sadly lead to more deaths of deniers that didn't have to suffer.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

12. The death numbers will continue to climb for those who contract Covid19 until people get serious

about protecting themselves and others via mask wearing, social distancing and hand washing. I'm not sure how many would have to die before it would be called a massive die-off as in your post but we can guarantee that a huge percentage of Covid deaths are preventable.

What's not being talked about very much yet is the physical toll that takes place on a number of those who don't show symptoms. They feel and look fine but the heart and other organs are being damaged. They won't know what's happened until it's too late.
This could happen to Trump. He claims he's doing fine, and he may well be, but it turns out Covid19 can be a silent killer over the long term and it's possible he will suffer long term damage leading to death. Who knows?

My 2 cents.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertglatter/2020/08/17/covid-19-can-cause-heart-damageeven-if-you-are-asymptomatic/?sh=3f1196de6cef

[dawg day]

17. And the physical and psychological effects

on Healthcare workers. I do not know how they do it. This is like the firefighters on 9/11, only they've been doing it for months. We owe them much more... glad we got rid of Trump who dismissed their work and outright accused them if lying and fraud.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

18. So true. I don't know how they do it either.

I have such great respect and gratitude for what they're doing. I can't imagine how shocked and frustrated they must feel to see how many in the US still protest the wearing of masks and social distancing despite their sacrifices and the expanding case numbers.
They're risking their own lives out of a strong sense of duty to their profession and the calling of their hearts only to see the streets filled with idiots who have a death wish.

[Ellen Forradalom]

14. Probably not

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

19. No, when they get taken to the ER, they'll be treated the same as people who do believe ...

... in viruses, vaccines, masks, civility.

Put him in a bed, stuff a tube in him, hook it to an air pump, fill the veins with happy juice, next patient!

[librechik]

20. yeah, and not just them

because we are vulnerable too.

[Miigwech]

21. Yes, many will suffer and die because "stupurity"

Just invented a new word to describe them.

"Stupurity: being so pure in one's ideology as to become stupid to reality"

[Laelth]

28. Nice. n/t

-Laelth

[roamer65]

41. Natural selection.

Survival of the fittest and smartest.

[riverwalker]

22. Some nurses have posted on Twitter

Of Covid patients denying they have the virus even as they are about to be intubated. Telling staff “you don’t have to wear all that stuff, there is no virus”. Unbelievable.

[mcar]

23. I read something yesterday, perhaps here

of a COVID patient in one of the Dakotas who was seriously ill. When she recovered enough to get off the ventilator, the doctor asked her where she might have contracted the virus.

The woman said, "I don't have Covid. It's not real."

How much time, money and effort was spent to save someone from a virus she doesn't think exists.

[joshcryer]

33. I bet money that woman got bamlanivimab, too.

It's the same stuff Trump got which loads your body with the antibodies that the virus (if you survive) triggers or that the vaccine will promote to be generated.

So she probably felt like a million bucks after getting off the vent.

[Silent3]

24. I've been looking at the COVID stats here in NH.

NH had been doing pretty well compared to other states for quite a while, but it's been slipping out of control the past couple of months.

What's odd is that while the infection rate is way up, the death rate hasn't increased much at all, even allowing for the fact that deaths are a trailing indicator to infections. I created an overlay of the new infections rate with the death rate, using these COVID stats: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=nh+covid+stats



(Blue is daily cases, gray is the overlay of deaths.)

Our infection rate is much worse than back in May, but the death rate hasn't increased much even though the infection rate has been at least as high as it was in May for a few weeks now, more than enough time for the death rate to catch up.

I can only guess that this has something to do with better protection of the elderly, better treatment of those who are sick, and perhaps the most vulnerable people having already died in the first wave.

[Laffy Kat]

25. There is no guarantee that humans will not become extinct. nt

[Laelth]

30. Quite the contrary.

It’s guaranteed that humans WILL become extinct. It’s just a question of when.

-Laelth

[GoCubsGo]

26. Not immediately.

A lot of these people will get sick, but survive, only to face all the weird effects that show up months later. Like strokes and kidney disease and dementia/Alzheimer's disease. It might not kill them outright, or at all, but a lot of them are looking at long-term suffering from this disease.

[joshcryer]

32. I agree with that.

Many of them are going to be intubated before they get proper treatment because of their denialism, so they will die at some later date. I expect the full death rate to jump a few points as people die from post-treatment complications. But I do think many people will survive with the stuff we have now.

[joshcryer]

31. Monoclonal antibodies should stop many of the elderly from dying.

Bamlanivimab is being distributed for free, and they have about 400k doses.

I think we've found a solution to this thing with therapeutics.

[TeamPooka]

34. I don't care about them. I care about the people they will infect because of their ignorance

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

37. No, because this simply isn't that deadly.

The vast majority of people who got it are symptomless or recover rather quickly. That's not to downplay the fact that about one or two percent of those who get it actually do die, but that tiny percentage will have no impact on the population as a whole. Humans altogether are reproducing far more quickly than they are dying.

[moondust]

38. It could last a long time

given the number of zombies that don't believe it's real, don't follow guidelines, and won't get vaccinated, plus the huge populations affected in India and elsewhere--many quite poor.

[sarcasmo]

39. The Covid denial die off is already happening.

[roamer65]

42. Natural selection at work.

One of the great constants in the biological world.

Be one of the fittest and smartest, folks.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

43. I'm interested in the ill health of the sociopathic billionaires who feed the propaganda machine.