Moderna's vaccine can be kept in a freezer - logistical game changer

[underpants]

Moving and distributing the Pfizer vaccine is a logistical and storage problem. Being able to just use refrigeration trucks could have some issues with capacity but it’s waaaay better than negative 90.


Moderna said Monday its vaccine remains stable at 36 to 46 degrees Fahrenheit, the temperature of a standard home or medical refrigerator, for up to 30 days. It can be stored for up to six months at negative 4 degrees Fahrenheit. By comparison, Pfizer's vaccine requires a storage temperature of minus 94 degrees Fahrenheit.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/16/moderna-says-its-coronavirus-vaccine-is-more-than-94percent-effective.html

[klook]

1. Wow - makes worldwide mass deployment feasible.

Great news!!

[underpants]

6. Yes.

Yes it is.

[hlthe2b]

2. That is a big damned deal. With routine vaccines we have issues with poor compliance to cold chain.

and that would prove disastrous in the event of poorly trained or who willfully disregard handling procedures.

That said, no published data and no information whatsoever about the durability of immune response for either vaccine means everyone needs to take all this with a grain of salt. Hopeful, but...?

[underpants]

4. Compliance issue I'm guessing in shipping

Especially at the distribution center and truck level.

[hlthe2b]

7. Compliance among clinics, and small doctors offices have resulted in vaccine "failure" in the past

linked to an absence of proper storage and handling. Pharmacies would not be able to handle extreme subzero temps either.

Not just in shipping--in fact, I think the record has been pretty good with those vaccines and drugs requiring special handling.

[lark]

15. Exactly the issue.

Does one provide 180 days of immunity, like current flu shots, or is it only 90 days? I know it's too early to know, but this makes a huge difference in what vaccine to choose, should there be several varieties available.

[NightWatcher]

3. Shelf Life! I wasn't feeling too happy about that first one.

Yay Science!

[underpants]

5. -90 is a nightmare

Think of distributing it to just say hospitals. Dosing would have to be at centralized locations I’d guess. Who knows. They would have to get it to retirement and older persons residences. Ugh.

[Native]

8. I sure do hope it will be as effective as the Pfizer vaccine! Isn't it supposed to be similar?

[underpants]

10. No idea.

Way above my pay grade

[DrToast]

14. Preliminary results show it to be more effective

94.5% effective.

Although that's not much different than the Pfizer vaccine. They're both seeing excellent results.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/16/health/moderna-vaccine-results-coronavirus/index.html

[ananda]

9. My question:

will trumper denialists refuse to take it because they believe the virus is a hoax?

[underpants]

12. Getting the masses to take it is going to be quite an undertaking

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From anti-vaxxers to distrust from the right and left to people holding off until initial results to people forgetting or being lazy to getting it to the far outer reaches (that includes inner farmland mountains and woodlands).

[ananda]

16. It really is.

I plan to take it if it's proven safe..
but that won't be until well into
next year, I'm sure.

[underpants]

17. I have no idea why it said "rooms"

Corrected to “masses”

[58Sunliner]

11. Fantastic-a viable alternative. Fingers crossed.

[Sherman A1]

13. Agreed

The super low temp of the pfizer one was going to be a problem.