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wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:31 AM Oct 2012

Assange: "From today WikiLeaks has decided to intervene in the U.S. federal election."

In my email:

"Dear WikiLeaks donor,

From today WikiLeaks has decided to intervene in the U.S. federal election. It is clear that whether Republicans or Democrats are in power, without the sort of pressure we can exert when we are at our strongest, the U.S. government will continue to declare the whole world a battleground.

Last Friday, the Pentagon publicly reissued its threats against WikiLeaks, demanding that we destroy our previous publications and cease "soliciting" U.S. military whistleblowers -- and that our failure to do so was an ongoing "crime" and "law enforcement matter". The FBI file for the pending prosecution of WikiLeaks, according to court records from earlier this year, has reached 42,135 pages.

WikiLeaks is determined to stop these and other moves towards what appears to be – let's be honest – a transnational security state dystopia. We believe knowledge is power and that knowledge should be in the hands of the people. By placing huge quantities of secret knowledge into your hands we can stop the concentration of power that is driving these trends.

We ask that you cast the only vote that matters, and again vote with your wallet.

It is possible for you to make donations with your credit card, despite the attempted blockade. To do so, visit http://wikileaks.org/donate

Also, please consider visiting our campaign website, at http://wikileaks.org/donate2012 and passing it on to your friends and family.

Solidarity,
Julian Assange and Team"

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Assange: "From today WikiLeaks has decided to intervene in the U.S. federal election." (Original Post) wtmusic Oct 2012 OP
"Intervene." Brickbat Oct 2012 #1
Yes, I'd like to hear more about this "intervene" topic. nc4bo Oct 2012 #2
The way I read it, the intervention is that you send your money to wikileaks instead of a candidate Brickbat Oct 2012 #5
That will happen exactly HappyMe Oct 2012 #9
Hee! Brickbat Oct 2012 #11
How overly dramatic. nc4bo Oct 2012 #14
You called it! randome Oct 2012 #15
Agreed. And people will see what they want to see in it. As far as a fundraising come-on goes, Brickbat Oct 2012 #17
Wikileaks SuperPAC 2012 BenzoDia Oct 2012 #3
WIKIPAC! Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #26
Just when I thought the 2012 election was getting boring! Arctic Dave Oct 2012 #4
Wtf? "Intervene"? HappyMe Oct 2012 #6
They do sound like they're going Lenny Bruce on us. Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #13
The British govt (*cough US*) is on track to spend $6.4 million to keep Assange on ice this year riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #7
"Bill 'em, Danno." randome Oct 2012 #16
Money talks. Spending this much on Assange indicates how much they care about him riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #18
Of course they care. He skipped bail and left his friends hanging. That's sort of against the law. randome Oct 2012 #20
Yeah, care to cite me ANY other case where bail jumping meant an annual fee of $6.4 million riderinthestorm Oct 2012 #21
Well, it's not every day that someone runs into the Ecuadorian embassy to hide from the law. randome Oct 2012 #22
It used to be that people would run to Western embassies R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2012 #35
We are all above the law. tama Oct 2012 #24
I have to admit, you blew my mind with that one! randome Oct 2012 #25
Great :) tama Oct 2012 #33
Assange, OTOH, is an anarchist. So that's why he'll attack Obama the hardest. pnwmom Oct 2012 #44
Do people really think this way beyond middle school. girl gone mad Oct 2012 #66
Yeah, but it's fine for you to toss insults. pnwmom Oct 2012 #83
Oh--you ought to read tama's thoughts on how the Declaration of Independence overrides US law. msanthrope Oct 2012 #53
Comedy gold... SidDithers Oct 2012 #56
My Teabagger Neighbor thinks the Federalist Papers excuse him from zoning laws, and Vattel's Law of msanthrope Oct 2012 #57
Not even close. They're just pulling security people off other assignments, pnwmom Oct 2012 #42
"Give us money so we can bring the democratic process to a halt!" Curtland1015 Oct 2012 #8
Huh? Who? randome Oct 2012 #10
I believe that money is power hfojvt Oct 2012 #12
Sorry, I only give to the Human Fund... msanthrope Oct 2012 #76
... SidDithers Oct 2012 #19
Plus 1 treestar Oct 2012 #48
Yawn... HipChick Oct 2012 #23
What do you want to bet they'll intervene in a way that attempts to help the GOP? n/t pnwmom Oct 2012 #27
Watch the video at the second link in the OP. MineralMan Oct 2012 #32
Thanks. I hate to be right about this because I'd have loved him to have released pnwmom Oct 2012 #40
he is as bad as ralph nader and not a hero by any means graham4anything Oct 2012 #28
He's worse. Nader did a lot of good in his early decades. n/t pnwmom Oct 2012 #39
Rupert Murdoch a foreigner? Perish the thought! KamaAina Oct 2012 #49
Ah - the attention junky is trying leftynyc Oct 2012 #29
Yah, way to go, there, Wikileaks... MineralMan Oct 2012 #30
After Reviewing the Video at the Second Link, MineralMan Oct 2012 #31
Thanks, MineralMan. It just confirms what I've thought for a while. pnwmom Oct 2012 #37
Um, butt out, Wikileaks and Assange. You've now crossed a line. kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #34
So, for the "freedom" he's going to intervene CitizenPatriot Oct 2012 #36
there is a sort of insane brilliance to it tho Bodhi BloodWave Oct 2012 #70
good point. maybe he can get it thru on the more open CitizenPatriot Oct 2012 #96
Officiallly. Fuck Julian Assange... SidDithers Oct 2012 #38
Here's a tricky question. Wait Wut Oct 2012 #50
Thank you, SidDithers. I don't care about who Cha Oct 2012 #77
... WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #41
Glad to see this butt munch keep showing his true colors. Egnever Oct 2012 #43
Ditto. Wait Wut Oct 2012 #51
"...moves towards...a transnational security state dystopia. Zorra Oct 2012 #45
Assange is making his own amoral, dystopian, anarchist aims very clear. pnwmom Oct 2012 #46
Where, exactly, does Assange say that all government is evil? Zorra Oct 2012 #69
He's an anarchist. That means he's against all government. n/t pnwmom Oct 2012 #84
That is simply not even close to having any basis in reality. Zorra Oct 2012 #87
So you've just proven he's claiming to be a free-market Libertarian. pnwmom Oct 2012 #93
So now Assange has elevated himself to speak for 'the people'? randome Oct 2012 #47
I don't follow you. How does that specifically relate to my post? nt Zorra Oct 2012 #61
"Knowledge should be in the hands of the people." randome Oct 2012 #62
Under present circumstances, I don't know where to draw the line, because Zorra Oct 2012 #72
Not everything is run for a profit motive. randome Oct 2012 #75
The "sky" has been pissing down our backs and telling us it's raining for over 30 years now. Zorra Oct 2012 #86
Translation = Send me money? Tarheel_Dem Oct 2012 #52
Smart move, because President Romney would just totally forget about it, right? truebrit71 Oct 2012 #54
Up until today I was neutral regarding Assange and Wikileaks. Butt out of our election. jwirr Oct 2012 #55
I'm a big supporter of WikiLeaks, Julian, and you need to BUTT OUT. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #58
"All your military secrets are belong to us!" randome Oct 2012 #59
Assange, Inc. Bobbie Jo Oct 2012 #60
Exactly... SidDithers Oct 2012 #63
So, somebody remind me why rape is OK if you're Julian Assange ... Bake Oct 2012 #64
Julian needs to get out more. Iggo Oct 2012 #65
He certainly ruffles the feathers of the establishment and its adherents. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #67
I do get a good chuckle out of these threads. Luminous Animal Oct 2012 #81
He's an anarchist trying to bring chaos to government everywhere. pnwmom Oct 2012 #85
Gandhi was an Anarchist who ruffled feathers and brought down a government. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #91
Gandhi was a PACIFIST. He wasn't an anarchist. n/t pnwmom Oct 2012 #92
Some Anarchists are pacifists...including Gandhi. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2012 #94
Hardly. I support Assange- despite thinking he's a total asshole cali Oct 2012 #89
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #68
Never liked him. Chorophyll Oct 2012 #71
How many ways can I say FUCK YOU Assange? I'm running out of words. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #73
... SidDithers Oct 2012 #79
Remember when Cindy Sheehan went from being a sympathetic figure to being a goddamn nuisance? Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2012 #74
Hey, where are the Bank of America files and the rest of the diplomatic cables? jberryhill Oct 2012 #78
Here is a link to all 251,287 cables. Luminous Animal Oct 2012 #80
''...a transnational security state dystopia.'' DeSwiss Oct 2012 #82
What a pompous ass. Julian, step out down the street for a cup of Joe. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #88
If Wikileaks are considered by the lying US government to be an "enemy of the state" Fire Walk With Me Oct 2012 #90
I guess it's not as fun as it used to be f___ing over just ordinary women. He's moved up. Ooooh, I'm Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #95

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
2. Yes, I'd like to hear more about this "intervene" topic.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:35 AM
Oct 2012

BTW, I'm a pro-Wikileaks person but I really would like to know what Assange is talking about here.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
5. The way I read it, the intervention is that you send your money to wikileaks instead of a candidate
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:39 AM
Oct 2012

or party.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
17. Agreed. And people will see what they want to see in it. As far as a fundraising come-on goes,
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:49 AM
Oct 2012

it's pretty funny.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
7. The British govt (*cough US*) is on track to spend $6.4 million to keep Assange on ice this year
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:39 AM
Oct 2012

A staggering amount of money to keep this guy and Wikileaks under wraps.... (thanks s4p).


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021451575


Ecuadorian Embassy
At least four Met officers stand guard around the clock
William Hague admits there is 'no sign of breakthrough'
By Chris Greenwood, Crime Reporter
PUBLISHED: 19:34 EST, 1 October 2012 | UPDATED: 04:51 EST, 2 October 2012

The police bill for staking out the embassy where WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is evading justice has already reached more than £1million. Scotland Yard confirmed it is costing £11,000 every day to ensure the Australian does not flee his bolthole at the Ecuadorean Embassy ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2211530/Police-stakeout-Assange-tops-1m-costs-11-000-DAY-ensure-doesnt-flee-Ecuadorian-Embassy.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
20. Of course they care. He skipped bail and left his friends hanging. That's sort of against the law.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:53 AM
Oct 2012

Even Assange is not above the law.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
21. Yeah, care to cite me ANY other case where bail jumping meant an annual fee of $6.4 million
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:56 AM
Oct 2012

indefinitely?






Yeah, Assange is just a nobody..... and the Brits are just being good legal stewards.....






(and I've got a bridge to sell you.....)

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
22. Well, it's not every day that someone runs into the Ecuadorian embassy to hide from the law.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:01 AM
Oct 2012

So, no, I don't have any other examples. Assange, as I'm sure we both agree, is one of a kind.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
35. It used to be that people would run to Western embassies
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:17 PM
Oct 2012

in fear of persecution/torture from their own nation state, but now some are running from the West for the very same reasons.

Sad.
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
25. I have to admit, you blew my mind with that one!
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:19 AM
Oct 2012

If, however, you mean that law only exists so far as we all are prepared to 'cooperate' with its needs, I would agree with you.

But if that social construct breaks down, we have anarchy. I prefer something other than that.

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
33. Great :)
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:06 PM
Oct 2012

Common Law tradition is very interesting, as it is peer to peer voluntary social construct...

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
44. Assange, OTOH, is an anarchist. So that's why he'll attack Obama the hardest.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:34 PM
Oct 2012

Like the Libertarians, though even more extreme, he doesn't believe government works. Since Obama is an example of someone who is trying to make government work, he'd rather attack him than Romney or any of the other GOP-economic libertarians.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
57. My Teabagger Neighbor thinks the Federalist Papers excuse him from zoning laws, and Vattel's Law of
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 01:49 PM
Oct 2012

Nations means the President is Kenyan.

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
42. Not even close. They're just pulling security people off other assignments,
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:31 PM
Oct 2012

not hiring a special crew for this job.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
12. I believe that money is power
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 10:41 AM
Oct 2012

and that money should be in the hands of me.

So please send me some ASAP so I can continue to be the great, but humble, person that I am.

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
40. Thanks. I hate to be right about this because I'd have loved him to have released
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:28 PM
Oct 2012

info about those Swiss bank accounts.

But I'm sure he won't.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
28. he is as bad as ralph nader and not a hero by any means
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:39 AM
Oct 2012

he is as bad as ralph nader promoting the bullshit about both parties being the same

may he end up rotting in jail.
he is not a hero in my book (and neither is ralph nader).

He is no better than rupert murdock or Bibi from the mideast. foreigners meddling in our elections and making threats.

sounds like extortion and blackmail to me.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
49. Rupert Murdoch a foreigner? Perish the thought!
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 01:05 PM
Oct 2012

He got his naturalized citizenship fair and square. It just so happened that, purely by coincidence, that made him eligible to buy U.S. TV and radio stations.

MineralMan

(146,329 posts)
31. After Reviewing the Video at the Second Link,
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:51 AM
Oct 2012

Which is completely an anti-Obama video, I have this to say:

Fuck Wikileaks!

See the video for yourself.

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
37. Thanks, MineralMan. It just confirms what I've thought for a while.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:25 PM
Oct 2012

It wasn't a coincidence that they didn't leak anything while Bush was in office, even though they were set up and had the means to do so in the last couple years of his term. They were waiting to go after Obama, and they haven't let up since.

CitizenPatriot

(3,783 posts)
36. So, for the "freedom" he's going to intervene
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:25 PM
Oct 2012

in our election with anti Obama propaganda and this will allow a 100% corporate raider to take over and install activist conservative judges who will certainly not side with freedom of information. They will corporatize/privatize the internet as they've been threatening, and this is the result Assange is advocating?

I think he's officially jumped the WTF shark. And he can join Bibi as far as I'm concerned. He's become a sad egomaniac.

Bodhi BloodWave

(2,346 posts)
70. there is a sort of insane brilliance to it tho
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 04:06 PM
Oct 2012

After all, if the above government comes to pass, there are likely to be a lot more secret info, and that means more business for him revealing info(as i'm sure everybody will want him to release it :p)

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
38. Officiallly. Fuck Julian Assange...
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:25 PM
Oct 2012

Anyone still defending that piece of shit is now defending someone who is actively campaigning against Democrats.



Sid

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
50. Here's a tricky question.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 01:13 PM
Oct 2012

Would posting a 'pro' Assange/Wikileaks threat now be a violation of the TOS now that they're actively fighting against Democrats?

I think this just might require a donation to DU so Skinner and Co. can buy some aspirin. Bummer, between donating to DU, Pres. Obama and local (and non-local) Dems...I don't have any left over for Assileaks.

Cha

(297,655 posts)
77. Thank you, SidDithers. I don't care about who
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 04:22 PM
Oct 2012

defends him..that's their thing..but, the "Fuck Assange" is long overdue.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
43. Glad to see this butt munch keep showing his true colors.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:32 PM
Oct 2012

The more this tool talks the more I am convinced he is guilty as hell in the rape he is accused of.

I pegged this guy as an attention whore almost immediately and was called lots of names here because of it. Nice to see others finally catching on to his antics and realizing hes not the hero he made himself out to be.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
45. "...moves towards...a transnational security state dystopia.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:38 PM
Oct 2012
We believe knowledge is power and that knowledge should be in the hands of the people."

dys·to·pi·a/disˈtōpēə/
Noun:
An imagined place or state in which everything is unpleasant or bad, typically a totalitarian or environmentally degraded one.


The transnational security state dystopia is being instituted by the 1%, and is being instituted for the express purpose of insuring and securing their wealth and power, and the protection of all their material interests globally. Democracy, freedom, planetary environment, and the overall well-being of the vast majority of human beings worldwide all suffer immensely because of the undeniably sociopathic intentions, and actions, of the 1%.

Knowledge should be in the hands of the people, and Wikileaks reveals facts, knowledge, of facts that are purposely hidden, facts about the intentions and the violent and destructive activities sanctioned by the 1% that the 1% strongly desires to hide from the general population of the world. The 1% wishes to subjugate us under their authoritarian control. Actually understanding who our real enemy is, based on knowledge of facts about our enemy's nefarious intentions and misdeeds, is primary knowledge that is necessary to incite people to rebel against the aggressive authoritarianism of the 1%, and the forces financed by the 1% (and also financed by we hapless taxpayers who have already been partially subjugated to serve the 1%.

Wikileaks makes the sociopathic intentions of the 1% clear by exposing facts that illustrate the secretive and sociopathic essential nature of the 1% -a heartless, conscienceless killing machine that will mercilessly destroy anything that gets in the way of its all consuming gluttony and greed.




If you ever wonder why so many, on the internet, and elsewhere, seem insanely obsessed with destroying Julian Assange and Wikileaks and are spending so much time and energy on their crusade...well, it ain't rocket science.

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
46. Assange is making his own amoral, dystopian, anarchist aims very clear.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:53 PM
Oct 2012

He's trying to give more power to the worst among us simply to prove his theory that all government is evil.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
69. Where, exactly, does Assange say that all government is evil?
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 03:48 PM
Oct 2012

IMO, it is best to communicate sincerely, and accurately, when trying to make a point. If you pull things that have no basis in reality out of the air, and then state these fabrications as fact, then how could you expect anyone to take what you say seriously?

If you don't believe that it is necessary to question authority, or to objectively point out obvious wrongdoing by those in authority because of certain predetermined prejudices, that's fine, that's totally your right.

But many of us feel that questioning authority, and questioning the actions of those in authority, are totally necessary for any type of basic honest government. And if those in authority do something that we consider to be wrong, we will call them on it directly. We desire to know the truth, and have our leaders represent us with standards and actions that are transparent and ethical. If you do not feel this way, that is also your right.

While I have long supported Julian and Wikileaks, I do not not love them beyond question, and if I see that they've fucked up, I point it out directly and honestly, instead of blindly and passionately defending them when they are wrong. I do not recognize, or admire, any authority as so great that it is beyond question reproach. That kind of crap is dangerous to all life.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1457875

In their blind loyalty, devotion, and obedience, many people loved and adored Adolf Hitler so much that they accepted everything he said and did without question. "Good Germans", they have been called. Those who do not question authority make model citizens in monarchies, dictatorships, and plutarchies, but they add up to less than zero in a democracy.

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."
Thomas Jefferson

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."
Martin Luther King, Jr.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
87. That is simply not even close to having any basis in reality.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:31 PM
Oct 2012
This is from an interview Julian had with Forbes:

You've developed a reputation as anti-establishment and anti-institution.

Not at all. Creating a well-run establishment is a difficult thing to do, and I've been in countries where institutions are in a state of collapse, so I understand the difficulty of running a company. Institutions don't come from nowhere.

It's not correct to put me in any one philosophical or economic camp, because I've learned from many. But one is American libertarianism, market libertarianism. So as far as markets are concerned I'm a libertarian, but I have enough expertise in politics and history to understand that a free market ends up as monopoly unless you force them to be free.

WikiLeaks is designed to make capitalism more free and ethical.


Does that sound like a raving anarchist to you?


pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
93. So you've just proven he's claiming to be a free-market Libertarian.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 08:07 PM
Oct 2012

That doesn't mean he's not also an anarchist, as his mother was. Many anarchists consider themselves Libertarians.

In any case, any real progressive is nuts to support him. He doesn't have the aims of progressivism in mind. As a self-proclaimed free-market libertarian, he's their enemy.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
47. So now Assange has elevated himself to speak for 'the people'?
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 12:58 PM
Oct 2012

It's a good thing we have him making decisions on our behalf!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
62. "Knowledge should be in the hands of the people."
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 03:12 PM
Oct 2012

ALL knowledge? No national secrets? No police investigations?

Assange seems to want all knowledge to be available all the time to all the people. That might sound cool in an imaginary Utopian society but it's hardly the world we live in.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
72. Under present circumstances, I don't know where to draw the line, because
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 04:12 PM
Oct 2012

because our government has been almost completely corrupted and compromised by wealthy private interests, and acts primarily as the servant of these wealthy private interests, particularly in many of their actions and interactions with respect to other nations.

These actions, IMO, have the basic concern of protecting the economic and material interests of wealthy private interests, rather than the interests of American citizens and the citizens of other sovereign nations as well.

I believe, at the very least, any communication expressed, or action taken by government officials that indicates any breach of what would be considered the normal accepted ethical standards of our society is fair game.

Anything that indicates malicious or nefarious intention or action that is contrary to the well being of innocent human beings, particularly those things done primarily in the service of wealthy private interests, is fair game.

It's basically very simple, really:

Don't do any anti-democratic, disingenuous, nasty, rotten, evil shit for profit, and there won't be anything for us to expose, and/or feel morally compelled to expose. That should not sound unreasonable to any decent human being.


http://www.youtube.com/channel/HCpip5nmMjBYM
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
75. Not everything is run for a profit motive.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 04:18 PM
Oct 2012

Sometimes it's for power and sometimes it's simply because it's necessary. I agree with the idea of more transparency but I sure as hell don't think I'm in a position to second-guess every aspect of our country.

I'm no national defense expert. I'm no law enforcement expert. There are things beyond my ability to micro-manage. With a President like Obama, I at least feel a little more comfortable thinking things aren't entirely as out of control as they were.

The sky is not always falling. That doesn't mean we should stop being vigilant but it's not always necessary to put the worst possible spin on things, either.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
86. The "sky" has been pissing down our backs and telling us it's raining for over 30 years now.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:06 PM
Oct 2012

I wasn't born yesterday. I have absolutely no reason to believe that much has changed regarding control of our government by wealthy private interests over the past 4 years.

I have not seen any marked reversal of control of our government by wealthy private interests in the past 4 years, and I'm going to continue to believe what I actually see rather than what anyone tells me.

Democrats are way better than republicans, but they still primarily serve the interests of the 1%, and until wealthy private interests are completely eradicated from influencing government, I will continue in my lack of faith in government as a democratic and ethical institution.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
54. Smart move, because President Romney would just totally forget about it, right?
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 01:39 PM
Oct 2012

Riiiiiiiiiight....I am officially dis-owning both he and his organisation..

Bake

(21,977 posts)
64. So, somebody remind me why rape is OK if you're Julian Assange ...
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 03:17 PM
Oct 2012

But if you're any other man, you're guilty until proven innocent ...

Bake

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
85. He's an anarchist trying to bring chaos to government everywhere.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 04:53 PM
Oct 2012

So, yes, he does ruffle the feathers of people who still hold out the hope for democratic government.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
91. Gandhi was an Anarchist who ruffled feathers and brought down a government.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 06:52 PM
Oct 2012

Democracy won't survive without it being held accountable. Even governments run by Democrats.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
89. Hardly. I support Assange- despite thinking he's a total asshole
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:35 PM
Oct 2012

But his endless narcissistic crap is more than a little trying.

Response to wtmusic (Original post)

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
73. How many ways can I say FUCK YOU Assange? I'm running out of words.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 04:14 PM
Oct 2012

He's so fucking irrelevant. Another Nader... self important asshole.

He wants your MONEY.. hellooo?? is anyone dumb enough to give them money?? Anyone in Washington State knows of Tim Eymann... same MO.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
74. Remember when Cindy Sheehan went from being a sympathetic figure to being a goddamn nuisance?
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 04:18 PM
Oct 2012

Something like that.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
80. Here is a link to all 251,287 cables.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 04:43 PM
Oct 2012
http://www.cablegatesearch.net/

Other countries continue to read them and to report on their contents.

The B of A files were stolen by Daniel Domscheit-Berg and destroyed. He has admitted this. You know, the guy who was supposed to launch a WikiLeaks rival but did nothing else but create a place-holder on the internet.
 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
82. ''...a transnational security state dystopia.''
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 04:47 PM
Oct 2012


''Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.'' ~Martin Luther King, Jr.

- K&R
 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
90. If Wikileaks are considered by the lying US government to be an "enemy of the state"
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:39 PM
Oct 2012

then =I= am an enemy of the state as well. Obama said something once supporting whistleblowers. Let's make it functional. Release Bradley Manning!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
95. I guess it's not as fun as it used to be f___ing over just ordinary women. He's moved up. Ooooh, I'm
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 08:47 PM
Oct 2012

scared. He's such a powerful, strong, goodly man. He's a Pied Piper. Ooooooh.

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