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Mon Nov 16, 2020, 02:03 PM

Now that republiCONs are complaining about voting machine hacking

Will they agree to go strictly to paper ballots? Pat Robertson on 700 club was bad mouthing voting machines
irregularities but no mention of paper ballots this morning. The machines favored Biden of course, according
to Pat.

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Reply Now that republiCONs are complaining about voting machine hacking (Original post)
KS Toronado Nov 2020 OP
pandr32 Nov 2020 #1
Srkdqltr Nov 2020 #2
exboyfil Nov 2020 #4
bluestarone Nov 2020 #3
Wounded Bear Nov 2020 #5
KS Toronado Nov 2020 #10
kurtcagle Nov 2020 #6
KS Toronado Nov 2020 #8
crickets Nov 2020 #14
Liberal In Texas Nov 2020 #15
Vivienne235729 Nov 2020 #7
KS Toronado Nov 2020 #9
Vivienne235729 Nov 2020 #12
Bonn1997 Nov 2020 #11
Firestorm49 Nov 2020 #13
Volaris Nov 2020 #16
Bonn1997 Nov 2020 #17
Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #18

Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2020, 02:07 PM

1. Perhaps we could turn this in our favor

The 'republiCONs' are not known for being very bright.

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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2020, 02:10 PM

2. But then maybe all should be recounted.

Could be there are more Biden votes to be counted? Trump could loose by a lot more. Maybe some of the red states were under counted and should have gone blue.

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Response to Srkdqltr (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 16, 2020, 02:19 PM

4. Maybe some House and Senate races flip?

I remember in 2016 Jill Stein wasn't able to get a hand count on an audit basis even.

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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2020, 02:16 PM

3. OK then

Let's start by checking FLORIDA first, THEN TEXAS, THEN NC.

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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2020, 02:30 PM

5. You're applying logic to people who define their existance through paradox...

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 16, 2020, 03:37 PM

10. Guilty.

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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2020, 02:35 PM

6. The Cons that are griping about voting machines

will likely be shushed up quickly by those who know that the voting machines do favor the GOP.

Additional point - I do not believe the voting machines were "hacked". I do believe that the voting machines out of the box were configured to favor one side vs. another. Part of the problem in determining this is that the source code for those machines are proprietary, meaning that you can only determine the bias by reverse-engineering the systems, which is a time-intensive and laborious process. Moreover, in most places that use touch screen systems, the states generally lease the systems from the manufacturer rather than own them outright, and the vendor takes back possession of the machines once the election is done

One thing I think this election MIGHT do is make these discrepancies more obvious. We've not had side by side comparisons of touch voting machines vs. paper ballots at this scale ever. If it can be shown that paper ballots were consistently in line with the polls, while touch screens had a significant discrepancy, then the case for removing the touch screens from use becomes much stronger. I would be willing to bet that all of a sudden, you'll find that Republicans are winning considerably less often than they used to if that were to happen.

This is the DU member formerly known as kurtcagle.

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Response to kurtcagle (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 16, 2020, 03:30 PM

8. I totally agree

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Response to kurtcagle (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 16, 2020, 04:46 PM

14. +1

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Response to kurtcagle (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 16, 2020, 07:19 PM

15. Good points. n/t

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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2020, 03:15 PM

7. Something we all agree on. Maybe we can get them to stand up against voting machines

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Response to Vivienne235729 (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 16, 2020, 03:36 PM

9. Nope, I believe the GOP will be telling them to shut their mouths.

They have cheating with machines down to an art form and want to keep it that way.

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 16, 2020, 03:50 PM

12. But they don't listen to the GOP. They listen to trump.

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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2020, 03:39 PM

11. Ted Cruz had similar complaints and wanted a paper trail

Maybe we can work with them. Hard to trust them though.

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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2020, 03:51 PM

13. Isn't it Ivanka who has a venture in voting machines?

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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2020, 07:27 PM

16. Hold your powder till they start in on the electoral college.

Then, with everything you have in you, DEFEND that system till the cows come home.

Because if we oppose their opposition and sound like the EC favors our side..

Those idiots will abolish it FOR US.


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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Mon Nov 16, 2020, 08:51 PM

17. Tucker Carlson was complaining about electronic voting machines just now also

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Response to KS Toronado (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 02:39 AM

18. Paper ballots everywhere, guarded by people, counted by people.

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