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KS Toronado

(17,198 posts)
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 03:03 PM Nov 2020

Now that republiCONs are complaining about voting machine hacking

Will they agree to go strictly to paper ballots? Pat Robertson on 700 club was bad mouthing voting machines
irregularities but no mention of paper ballots this morning. The machines favored Biden of course, according
to Pat.

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Now that republiCONs are complaining about voting machine hacking (Original Post) KS Toronado Nov 2020 OP
Perhaps we could turn this in our favor pandr32 Nov 2020 #1
But then maybe all should be recounted. Srkdqltr Nov 2020 #2
Maybe some House and Senate races flip? exboyfil Nov 2020 #4
OK then bluestarone Nov 2020 #3
You're applying logic to people who define their existance through paradox... Wounded Bear Nov 2020 #5
Guilty. KS Toronado Nov 2020 #10
The Cons that are griping about voting machines kurtcagle Nov 2020 #6
I totally agree KS Toronado Nov 2020 #8
+1 crickets Nov 2020 #14
Good points. n/t Liberal In Texas Nov 2020 #15
Something we all agree on. Maybe we can get them to stand up against voting machines Vivienne235729 Nov 2020 #7
Nope, I believe the GOP will be telling them to shut their mouths. KS Toronado Nov 2020 #9
But they don't listen to the GOP. They listen to trump. Vivienne235729 Nov 2020 #12
Ted Cruz had similar complaints and wanted a paper trail Bonn1997 Nov 2020 #11
Isn't it Ivanka who has a venture in voting machines? Firestorm49 Nov 2020 #13
Hold your powder till they start in on the electoral college. Volaris Nov 2020 #16
Tucker Carlson was complaining about electronic voting machines just now also Bonn1997 Nov 2020 #17
Paper ballots everywhere, guarded by people, counted by people. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #18

Srkdqltr

(6,271 posts)
2. But then maybe all should be recounted.
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 03:10 PM
Nov 2020

Could be there are more Biden votes to be counted? Trump could loose by a lot more. Maybe some of the red states were under counted and should have gone blue.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
4. Maybe some House and Senate races flip?
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 03:19 PM
Nov 2020

I remember in 2016 Jill Stein wasn't able to get a hand count on an audit basis even.

kurtcagle

(1,602 posts)
6. The Cons that are griping about voting machines
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 03:35 PM
Nov 2020

will likely be shushed up quickly by those who know that the voting machines do favor the GOP.

Additional point - I do not believe the voting machines were "hacked". I do believe that the voting machines out of the box were configured to favor one side vs. another. Part of the problem in determining this is that the source code for those machines are proprietary, meaning that you can only determine the bias by reverse-engineering the systems, which is a time-intensive and laborious process. Moreover, in most places that use touch screen systems, the states generally lease the systems from the manufacturer rather than own them outright, and the vendor takes back possession of the machines once the election is done

One thing I think this election MIGHT do is make these discrepancies more obvious. We've not had side by side comparisons of touch voting machines vs. paper ballots at this scale ever. If it can be shown that paper ballots were consistently in line with the polls, while touch screens had a significant discrepancy, then the case for removing the touch screens from use becomes much stronger. I would be willing to bet that all of a sudden, you'll find that Republicans are winning considerably less often than they used to if that were to happen.

KS Toronado

(17,198 posts)
9. Nope, I believe the GOP will be telling them to shut their mouths.
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 04:36 PM
Nov 2020

They have cheating with machines down to an art form and want to keep it that way.

Bonn1997

(1,675 posts)
11. Ted Cruz had similar complaints and wanted a paper trail
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 04:39 PM
Nov 2020

Maybe we can work with them. Hard to trust them though.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
16. Hold your powder till they start in on the electoral college.
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 08:27 PM
Nov 2020

Then, with everything you have in you, DEFEND that system till the cows come home.

Because if we oppose their opposition and sound like the EC favors our side..

Those idiots will abolish it FOR US.


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