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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHarry Styles wore a dress on the cover of Vogue - and US rightwingers lost it
The magazine made history by featuring the musician as its first-ever male cover star but prominent conservatives voiced disapproval over what he was wearinghttps://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/nov/16/harry-styles-vogue-cover-dress
On Friday, storied fashion publication US Vogue made history by featuring British pop singer (and former One Direction heartthrob) Harry Styles as its first-ever male cover star. The cover immediately sparked passionate conversations around masculinity and gendered dressing: Styles dons a voluminous periwinkle blue gown paired with a black tuxedo jacket (both designed by Gucci). The image felt representative of a growing exploration of gender-fluidity and non-binary dressing taking place, popular among the very millennial and Gen-Z shoppers Vogue is targeted towards. However, prominent conservatives from Candice Owens to Ben Shapiro voiced disapproval of Styles wearing dresses. Owens wrote on her Twitter page Friday evening: Bring back manly men.
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There is no society that can survive without strong men, Owens, a rightwing media powerhouse, said. The East knows this. In the west, the steady feminization of our men at the same time that Marxism is being taught to our children is not a coincidence. It is an outright attack. [sic] Ben Shapiro, a conservative pundit, appeared to agree with Owens attacks. He shared her tweet and added: Anyone who pretends this is not a referendum on masculinity for men to don floofy dresses is treating you like a full-on idiot.
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These comments fit in with how contested and divisive debates around gender expression have become in the US, even when a massively popular musician such as Styles, who identifies as cisgender, engages in progressive developments. This is not the first time Styles has played around with fashion in bold ways. The singer wore a black dress by the Japanese brand Commes Des Garçons on the cover of the Guardian Weekend and defended the queer aesthetics of his visual work. Im not just sprinkling in sexual ambiguity to be interesting, he said. I want things to look a certain way. Not because it makes me look gay, or it makes me look straight, or it makes me look bisexual, but because I think it looks cool.
Fellow Hollywood stars were quick to come to Styles defence. Olivia Wilde, who is currently directing a Styles-led film, replied to Owens tweets with: Youre pathetic. And The Good Place actress Jameela Jamil tweeted out in Styles defence: Manly is whatever you want it to be. Meanwhile, others have argued Styles cover may not be enough for increasing acceptance towards non-binary expression and identities. Harry Styles Vogue cover may be historic, but it isnt radical, the Daily Beast declared in a headline. If this is the furore a white, cis man wearing a dress on Vogue breeds, it is hard to imagine what a model from a marginalized background say, a trans woman of colour (which Vogue has yet to feature on its cover) would face.
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LeftInTX
(25,599 posts)Solly Mack
(90,790 posts)Sad, sad people. Must suck to be them.
RockRaven
(15,023 posts)the fact that 1) Vogue and 2) Ben Fucking Shapiro give a shit what he's wearing make me say:
"Nope nope nope nope nope nope nope nope"
No click. No read. No care. No want to know. (Dammit I clicked on this thread, didn't I?)
Bad internet! Bad!!!
Maybe you need spanking internet
Celerity
(43,583 posts)disalitervisum
(470 posts)"individual freedom" that they wear, doesn't it.
Celerity
(43,583 posts)Caliman73
(11,749 posts)Individual freedom only exists within their box of what is "appropriate".
canetoad
(17,197 posts)msongs
(67,459 posts)torius
(1,652 posts)and her curtain dress.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)I'll tell ya ... it was also the era where women kept their mouths shut if they knew what was good for 'em.
Celerity
(43,583 posts)she is such a sell-out, given her background
and lol
Owens pursued an undergraduate degree in journalism at the University of Rhode Island. She left after her junior year because of an issue with her student loan. Afterwards, she worked as an intern for Vogue magazine in New York.
safeinOhio
(32,733 posts)of King James I in the early 1600s. Quite the fashion queen and commissioned her beloved version of the Bible.
smb
(3,475 posts)LuvNewcastle
(16,860 posts)I want to see him gain some weight so he can model some maternity fashions. Just thinking about that makes me want to grab him by the asshole!
Deb
(3,742 posts)Same stuff, different year.
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)Just asking...
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)If you make fun of a Scot wearing one, you might get kilt...
I'll pack me bags...
SunSeeker
(51,744 posts)Nothing Harry Styles wears could keep men from being "manly men."
Celerity
(43,583 posts)filthy lucre keeps on pouring in
it's one giant long con
Candice Owens is outrageously hypocritical to be a Rump sucker, given her background (I went into in another reply here)
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,047 posts)... and so much else. If they are white, then right-wingers tend to add People of Colour to the list of attacks they perceive; hence tRump's appeal to suburban white wives with reference to hordes of low income housing dwellers which is a code phrase for PoC.
The all-or-nothing binary thinking, as illustrated about gender/sex, means that every progressive step is fought tooth and nail:
* abolition of slavery
* desegregation
* women's votes
* reproductive rights
* same sex marriage
* fluoridation of water
* vaccination for papilloma virus
* sex education
* drug legalization
You can add things like Obamacare as the "thin edge of the wedge of communism".
You may see those items as progress. They seem them as mortal wounds to "their country" that have to be reversed. They are perpetually stressed and in a defensive crouch all the time. No wondered there is such a large cult of trumpanzees, even to death by Covid.
Republicons have corralled their sheep and jacked up their self-infliced PTSD from modern society to the nth degree.
Mike Nelson
(9,972 posts)... his publicist and staff should get a BIG bonus. It's difficult to do something outrageous in today's outrageous Media and get noticed- this is all over social media. Congratulations to the Styles publicity dept!
Celerity
(43,583 posts)ancianita
(36,152 posts)hated when women first wore pants. Or shirts, vests, belts, sensible shoes, drove, worked at a profession, traveled, voted.
They got used to women wearing male garb because they indulged women as pretenders to male power. But men doing the same -- as taboo as controlling men's private parts and sexuality.
We've gone through 100 years of Ben Shapiro's masculinized idiocy:
Anyone who pretends this is not a referendum[public agreement] on masculinity [femininity] for men[women] to don floofy dresses[gangster garb] is treating you like a full-on idiot.
Kanye, Vin Diesel
Celerity
(43,583 posts)Illumination
(2,458 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Yeah, I dont think he looks good in that dress, but I dont think he looks good in the suit picture either.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,047 posts)blogslut
(38,019 posts)Candace and Ben are a couple of outrage mongers and I'm tired of their obvious bullshit.
Men have worn and still wear dress-like garments the world over. 'Masculinity' is an amorphous term and so is 'femininity'. In the eye of the bearer or the beholder. That's the point trying to be made.
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)Of course drag queens like RuPaul do it all the time and also Jonathan Van Ness from Queer Eye. I think conservatives are freaking out about the idea of straight guys in dresses, but Nirvana did this way back in the 90's.
FakeNoose
(32,801 posts)Why would right-wing nutjobs even care what a man wears on a fashion magazine photo shoot? They clearly need to find something to keep themselves occupied.
Maybe go deer hunting or something.
Voltaire2
(13,213 posts)Link to tweet
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tavernier
(12,409 posts)Keth
(184 posts)"What is this song?" I asked the bartender of the local brew pub where I would go for beers and pizza before Covid. (The pub is barely hanging on which makes me sad). It was probably the fourth time I heard it as the bartender seemed to be always playing the same playlist when I was sitting at his bar. For some reason, the song caught my attention.
"She by Harry Styles", J the bartender answered. When I got home with the perfect beer buzz, I went to iTunes and previewed the album Fine Line that featured She and ended up downloading the record. I was surprised, although I don't know why, that I really liked the music. I'm now a fan.
I love the Vogue photographs. Harry has Style - and nice music.
Blue Owl
(50,525 posts)tanyev
(42,634 posts)Bowie, 1971
crickets
(25,986 posts)Initech
(100,107 posts)Nobody should listen to his crap.
BeerBarrelPolka
(1,202 posts)"We, acting in tandem, vehemently oppose any male celebrity from crossdressing in any shape or form. It is not becoming of American society and should be condemned at once."
Sincerely,
Milton Berle
Flip Wilson
jmowreader
(50,566 posts)...all of Monty Python.
bigtree
(86,008 posts)...it's always refreshing, and much more interesting to me, a man, to see men more focused on womanly things.
Celerity
(43,583 posts)wonder if Candace wants to see his other 'hog' (probably more of a piglet)
bigtree
(86,008 posts)...smell like dirty clothes in a gym locker.
flotsam
(3,268 posts)Yet still not "threatening" or trendsetting. Here's the thing-a normal person would only lightly engage in discussion. If this "fires you up" you are his absolute audience....
GoneOffShore
(17,342 posts)Or as mentioned earlier Flip Wilson or Milton Berle.
flotsam
(3,268 posts)Look silly if you wish. My thing is not to attach a feeling of import to it. I more attach feelings of importance to those actually transgender or somehow in their life sexually searching-like how should I live rather than how should I appear. And I get they are defying gender roles, yet I find it superficial.
GoneOffShore
(17,342 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"Look silly if you wish..."
Or sound absurd if you wish. Which is arguably even more superficial when wrapped up in sanctimony.
crickets
(25,986 posts)The nation loved him for it. "What you see *snap* is what you get. Whoo!"
jmowreader
(50,566 posts)A dress like that and no makeup? On a fashion mag cover, no less? With no eyeshadow youre only half dressed. For shame, Vogue! For shame, Harry!
Seriously though, can you imagine the Republican head explosions if he was completely done up? It would be glorious.
Yavin4
(35,447 posts)This is where people like Bill Maher say: "See Democrats. This is why the red states vote against you."
To which I respond, if there are people basing their vote on the fact that Harry Styles wore a dress, then they're are too stupid to vote, and it should be pointed out as such. Not saying to these people, "hey, you're fucking stupid for voting for petty ridiculous issues that have little to no bearing on your every day life."
Volaris
(10,274 posts)'Celeb does something out of the ordinary...'
Oh..it must be tuesday.
'Right wing snowflakes freak about about what happened on tuesday...'
Yep, its Wednesday.
Both are workdays, and we got real problems to solve.
Aristus
(66,474 posts)A ballet dancer, male or female, will fuck your shit up. They are in phenomenal physical condition.
So just because someone doesn't conform to the toxic version of masculinity doesn't mean they're not 'real' men.
Jesus, these people are such idiots...