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NRaleighLiberal

(60,006 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 10:24 AM Nov 2020

538 "What Trump's Refusal To Concede Says About American Democracy" Perry Bacon

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-trumps-refusal-to-concede-says-about-american-democracy/

At nearly 2:30 a.m. Wednesday, the morning after Election Day 2016, the Associated Press declared Donald Trump the winner of the presidential election. Around the same time, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton phoned Trump to concede, a call she made at the urging of then-President Barack Obama. That Thursday, less than 48 hours after the election results, Obama met with his successor to help him prepare for the transition to the presidency.

Four years later, nothing like that has happened. More than a week has passed since major news outlets declared Joe Biden the winner, but Trump has refused to concede. Instead, his legal team is pushing efforts to invalidate the results, and his administration won’t work with Biden officials on the transition of power. Top Republicans in Congress and around the country aren’t openly acknowledging Biden’s victory either.

That some Republicans won’t go along with the traditional niceties following a presidential election (like congratulating the victor from the opposing party) isn’t that important. But the sitting president’s refusal to acknowledge electoral defeat is worrisome, as it raises the prospect that he will not uphold a core tenet of democracy: Elections determine who is in power, and those who lose surrender power peacefully. The behavior of top Republican Party officials — subtly acknowledging that Trump must leave office on Jan. 20 but not openly rebuking his conduct — in some ways also violates that core value. And the combination of Trump’s and his party’s behavior raises a serious question: Is America’s democracy in trouble?

Maybe. People who study democratic norms and values both in the United States and abroad say that the behavior of Trump and the Republican Party over the past week deeply concerns them. Dartmouth College political scientist Brendan Nyhan says it’s important not to think of democracy in binary terms — that either a nation is or is not a democracy. Instead, Nyhan argues, democracy falls more on a spectrum, and based on how Trump broke with democratic values as president and how he is handling the end of his presidency, America does remain a democracy, but it is somewhat less democratic than it was pre-Trump.

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538 "What Trump's Refusal To Concede Says About American Democracy" Perry Bacon (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Nov 2020 OP
Not surprised at all Johnny2X2X Nov 2020 #1
It says a lot that we're putting up with his shit. C_U_L8R Nov 2020 #2

Johnny2X2X

(18,972 posts)
1. Not surprised at all
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 10:49 AM
Nov 2020

Republicans have been making it clear for over a decade now that they do not think that their ideas and the ideas of Democrats can exist in this country together. It's a win at all costs war for them, Dems still will try to play nice.

C_U_L8R

(44,988 posts)
2. It says a lot that we're putting up with his shit.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 11:47 AM
Nov 2020

After the EC certifies, who gives a fuck what Trump thinks.

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