Lindsey Graham is in some serious shit I believe.

[yellowcanine]

First of all he should not have been calling the Georgia Sec of state at all about an ongoing election. It may not be illegal but it is for sure unethical. And secondly it is now his word against that of another Republican who has no reason to lie.

[Sherman A1]

1. I hope so

but I expect nothing to happen to Leningrad Lindsey.

[NCDem47]

11. Agree.

He won re-election. Rs control the Senate (for now). It's a he said he said situation without recorded proof.

He'll slip by. If anything, it will teach him to be more careful/deceitful in his conversations. Graham probably thought a discussion with another R would never make it to light.

I got to tell you, I'm gaining repsect for this GA SOS. Some. Not much.

[llashram]

40. nope, nothing

[PatrickforO]

44. Yeah, he's crooked as a corkscrew. He and McConnell.

The fact they cheated in their respective elections is something for which I have no proof.

I just know.

[ailsagirl]

50. McConnell

[LiberalLovinLug]

70. Yup they cheated.

There's a reason why they walk around with such smarmy grins and act so cocky. They know their own positions are all but guaranteed with corrupt Republicans controlling everything in their States.

[dalton99a]

2. Lindsey IS shit, so nothing will happen

[jimfields33]

3. Lindsay already said he didn't. He lied of course.

Only if it’s on tape will anything come of it. Hopefully it is.

[Kingofalldems]

21. Ahh, so familiar.

[Kingofalldems]

29. Oops.

Link to tweet

[Bev54]

52. There are witnesses to the call

Two of the SOS's staff members were listening to the call, which I suspect was on speaker phone.

[Mike 03]

4. It would be nice to see some consequences for Graham and

others, like DeJoy and Emily Murphy.

[MineralMan]

5. Nothing will happen to Graham.

On the other hand, now everyone knows he tried to influence someone in charge of voting in a state he does not represent.

Shame on Lindsey!

[Escurumbele]

42. He has no shame, it is a republican trate

And we need to put our positive minds in place and believe that "something WILL happen to Graham", that he will get investigated and kicked out of the Senate.

It is discouraging to hear/read that "nothing will happen to a republican" after they commit a crime so shamelessly for everyone to see.

[GoCubsGo]

6. I hope Ratzenberger has recordings.

I am enjoying watching the GOPers go after each other, on top of all of this.

[tblue37]

31. Apparently he has witnesses--staffers who were on the call.

[GoCubsGo]

34. That'll work, as well.

[C_U_L8R]

7. Criminals get caught when they think they're invincible

Graham's clearly been getting away with his shit for too long. Stupid blunder that may cost him. Let's hope it does.

[Marius25]

8. I'm not going to hold my breath.

The FBI/DoJ won't investigate right now, and he may not even get any attention next year when a new DoJ is in place.

Graham should be forced to resign from the Senate and be arrested.

[Buckeyeblue]

9. Lindsey wants to be Trump but he doesn't have the internal fortitude to be that brazen

[Frustratedlady]

43. Neither does Trump, but he puts on a good act.

He barks until he gets seriously barked at, then he backs off.

[Baitball Blogger]

10. Those backwater phone calls.

Gets them every time.

[dchill]

12. I'm sure it can be humiliating, grueling and dangerous...

...to do the work of Putin.

[Laelth]

13. I doubt it.

From what I can tell, Lindsey called up Raffensperger and asked, “Hey? What are the rules in Georgia regarding throwing out ballots when the signatures don’t match? Is there any chance that the outcome might change as a result of this rule?”

Ultimately, it’s none of Lindsey’s business, but asking a question like that probably isn’t illegal. Now, if Raffensperger has evidence of pressure or undue influence, it’s a different story, but that would be very difficult to prove, I suspect.

-Laelth

[mr_lebowski]

14. Pretty much just what I said on another thread ...

GMTA. Sadly in this case ... sure would love to led him led off in shackles.

[Laelth]

18. I thought we had Lindsey neutered on Nov. 3.

Evidently, I was wrong, but I eagerly await his departure from the American political scene—sooner rather than later.

-Laelth

[LisaL]

16. The ballots were already accepted when Lindsey called, considering Lindsey called

about an audit.
Why would he expect the outcome to change?

[Laelth]

23. I don't know that he was expecting anything.

It’s probably a question of allocation of resources.

“Should I make a stink about this, or not? If it won’t change the outcome, either way, I won’t fight about it. If it could change the outcome, I MIGHT get involved. From one Republican to another, what should I do?”

That’s what I imagine was going through Lindsey’s head, but who knows? Raffensperger decided to call out Lindsey, regardless, and good for him.

-Laelth

[LisaL]

30. Why would Lindsey fight about a race in Georgia?

NT

[Laelth]

32. He's a team-player? n/t

-Laelth

[Gary 50]

36. Why?

So he could call Trump and tell him he was trying to overturn the outcome of the election in Georgia. Then Trump will tell him "good boy" and throw him a doggie bone.

[kacekwl]

71. Exactly. What is sticking his crooked nose in Georgia

election anyway. Was he asked ?

[haele]

74. Because he is desperate to keep the Senate majority.

He doesn't want any of Biden's nominations to go through. He especially needs to keep his position on the Judiciary committee.
Too many buried bodies over the past four years. He can't skate by on pushing the "normal piss-ant corruption" under the rug, Putin, the Amerikkkan Oligarchs, and Drumph got some serious filth on the GOP to get their political wrecking ball in place; I think they were seriously believing they were going to be able to tear up the Constitution, tear down the nation, and re-make the USA in their own short-sighted image.
Now he's caught. And he's smart enough to know this is the end; he's scuttling around trying to save his hide any way he can.

Haele

[FBaggins]

26. That's what an audit does

It sounds like he's speculating that there are some mail-in/absentee ballots where the signatures don't match. If an audit were to discover that the question would become whether they could be removed from the total.

The likely answer is "no" since the system is designed to keep ballots anonymous. Once the ballot is removed from the envelope and added to the count, there's no way to find it again if it turns out that the inner envelope should never have been opened.

[onenote]

24. Agree

[malaise]

15. Ethics - Lindsay?

surely you jest

[liberal_mama]

17. I hope he taped Lindsey! n/t

[Arthur_Frain]

19. How long before I get to take grim satisfaction in having these worthies predecease me?

‘Cause that’s the only way I’m going to end up getting any satisfaction here really, with my level of influence. I’m gonna have to outlive the bastards.

[tritsofme]

20. It's less satisfying than you'd think.

There’s always a new crop behind them, and you!

[Arthur_Frain]

22. Yeah,

But have you pissed on any graves yet?

[NurseJackie]

25. I'm sure this pales in comparison to whatever it is he's trying to hide. His actions...

I'm sure this pales in comparison to whatever it is he's trying to hide. His actions can only be explained as being motivated by something that he wants to keep secret. Someone has something on him and is coercing him to do and say things that he probably wouldn't otherwise be doing or saying. There's speculation that whatever it is he's hiding goes far beyond the universally accepted truth about his hypocrisy. People are saying that whatever others have on him is photographic evidence of something that could land him in jail. Now I don't know if this is true or not, it probably isn't. But if it is, it would certainly go a long way toward explaining his bizarre behavior.

[Calista241]

27. I read Graham's response, and if that's the way it happened, he can feel safe from prosecution.

He says the question was along the lines of "Can you exclude ballots from districts that have a higher percentage of mis-matched signatures?"

This was in the midst of Ga's SOS talking about the signature matching process, and what standards they were using to match signatures before the ballot was even opened.

[lindysalsagal]

28. The world would be a much better place if it never heard from him again.

[Greybnk48]

33. According to the WSJ, there are witnesses who were on other lines listening.

I think Lindsey is screwn.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214568685

[Illumination]

35. Why that little demon!...

[Rice4VP]

37. Well he admitted to calling him and it's clear

what his intention is by his behavior since the election. The Secretary of State has been totally transparent but Lindsay thought that the guy was a sycophant like him. He needs to name and shame anyone who tries to bully him

[usaf-vet]

38. What did he do IN South Carolina to hold his seat. I don't believe THOSE results.

I was there in 1966-1969 nothing has changed. NOTHING!

[JohnnyRingo]

41. He's a republican.

If every repub who tried to corrupt an election paid the price, they'd be the Gone Old Party.
They'll just say both parties do it and change the subject to Barrista.

[ashredux]

45. It's a He said / "She" said thing...😊

[barbtries]

46. and as noted in a different thread,

the other guy has witnesses.

unless GA elects both Democrats it will not matter. that's the hell of it. Republicans don't give a fuck.

[VA_Jill]

47. One can only hope

but #MoscowMitch will drag him out of it. Somehow.

[WhiteTara]

48. He admitted he did the same in AZ and NV

so that is a clear cut pattern.

[Greybnk48]

56. The SOS in AZ says Lindsey never spoke to him.

It seems as though Lindsey was targeting GA and he got caught. Fucker.

[WhiteTara]

61. Sure looks like it. He really is

a fucker.

[progressoid]

49. Nope.

This won't affect him.

[ffr]

51. Too bad tRump closed down that election fraud hotline...

Link to tweet

[BobTheSubgenius]

53. I hope the magnitude of what he's done is giving him the vapours.

Perhaps permanently.

[Arazi]

55. Nope. #LeningradLindsey has done lots of bad shit

[maxsolomon]

54. Ethics are irrelevant now.

Legality is increasing irrelevant. Graham will be with us for decades of craven mendacity.

I'm amazed the SoS came out publicly. A Republican still has ethics, huh.

[2Legit]

57. Lordy, I hope there are tapes!

Georgia is a one-party state so if the GA SOS wanted to for CYA purposes, he possibly could have recorded that convo.

Oh, how sweet would that be?

[eppur_se_muova]

58. If Dems take both Senate seats in GA, they could call for a vote of censure.

The VP would vote to break the tie, and LG would become only the 11th Senator in history to be censured. (A simple majority is all it takes.)

Maybe not much (especially to conscienceless Uglicans) but it would be a permanent blot on the record of LG and the GOP, and fodder for future attack ads.

[lark]

59. Nope, it's his word against at least 3 other repugs who totally affirm that he did this.

Attempted election interference. Biden's AG should prosecute him, Barr and drumpf.

[weissmam]

60. actually three

There were two other people on the call per the GE SoS

[Thrill]

62. Democrats have to be tough

Don’t let it go

[getagrip_already]

63. The GA SoC has witnesses..... and it is a violation of STATE law....

So how about it GA? How about a grand jury?

[backscatter712]

64. Georgia has a law that makes it a crime to solicit election fraud.

Yeah, LadyG needs to be making license plates for a while...

[apnu]

73. Do you honestly expect Southern Republicans to prosecute their own for crimes?

I don't. He'll probably get free mimosas at the country club for trying to help rig Georgia for the GOP.

[Bettie]

65. He won't be

Republicans are utterly immune to any consequences for their actions.

I hope that he'll face some consequences, but given what I've seen in recent years, nothing will come of it.

That whole "I could shoot someone on 5th Avenue" thing? It seems to apply to all elected Republicans.

[matt819]

66. If it's a suspected felony. . .

where is the FBI?

Oh, silly me. Nowhere.

But a suspected felony is a suspected felony. On November 16, 2020 and after January 20, 2021.

I know that Joe is being quite temperate in his comments on future investigations into Trump and his corrupt regime. Because Obama chose to "look ahead," we had trump. When there's no price to pay for corruption, well, you run the risk of getting corrupt people in office.

As for the issue of trump having leverage over graham and others, I do think that's the case but I find it remarkable that nothing substantive has leaked.

[calimary]

67. I hope so. Not sure he won't just get away with it but there should be LOTS of noise

made about it. At the very least.

Sow doubt and confusion and questions. That’s been a trump tool. Why can’t WE do that, too?

[JGug1]

68. Lindsey

Except that another poster here has reported that the Sec of State has other staffers
listening when he took Graham's call.

[Borchkins]

69. Only if we are vocal and force it.

[apnu]

72. Graham will be fine, won't even get a slap on the wrist.

The Good Old Boy network in the South has his back. He just won reelection and has to face zero accountability right now. in 6 years when he faces reelection again, nobody will remember this in South Carolina. If he goes down then it will be for other reasons than this.

[Blue Owl]

75. I hope Kamala makes him cry at some point soon

Just like she did with the dick waving beer lover...