Sounds like Rudy is getting eaten alive by the PA Judge - link

[Alhena]

This guy is live-blogging the hearing:

https://twitter.com/RMFifthCircuit/with_replies

[OAITW r.2.0]

1. Thanks for posting a heads up!

Will continue to watch DU on Rudy's sequel to his Borat scene.....

[Alhena]

6. Totally unreal that Rudy is arguing this motion when he clearly has no idea of basics of federal

jurisdiction and federal constitutional law such as standing and the varying levels of scrutiny (rational-basis, intermediate, strict) of alleged Constitutional violations.

This is like having a tee-ball player show up to play in a World Series game.

[OAITW r.2.0]

10. Apparently, embarrassing himself in the Borat episode wan't enough.

He has to be humiliated at a State Supreme Court for bringing baseless charges for a baseless pResident.

[regnaD kciN]

23. The thing is, the outcome of this case really doesn't matter...

In that respect, Giuliani is right -- win or lose, the whole purpose of this is to get election cases before the SCOTUS. At which point, we'll find out if the facts, the Constitution, and hundreds of years of case law count, or if it's a simple matter of mathematics, as in (Three Trump nominees + Alito + Thomas = a majority for whatever outcome Trump wants). And, while most of us are convinced the latter won't happen, we won't really know until the case comes before them and they issue an opinion. And I wish I was more confident in the outcome.

[OAITW r.2.0]

24. You harshed my buzz......

that is the "worst case" scenario and it will tell everything going forward should that come to bear.

[Turin_C3PO]

34. Trump's not going to remain in office

past January 21st. If you’re not getting sleep over that, rest assured that he’s not going to flip this election.

[Mr.Bill]

40. True, but if Rudy won in this court,

the other side would appeal it to the SCOTUS. And I would reather arrive in that court as the winner in the lower court than the loser. And, of course, there is always the risk that the SCOTUS refuses to hear the case. Another instance where it's better to be the winner in the lower court than the loser. If this is Rudy's planned course for victory on the SCOTUS level, he's making a mockery of the court and the Justices, and a fool of himself. Of course, at this point we should expect no different.

[StarfishSaver]

26. You must have been out sick the day they covered Normal Scrutiny in Con Law

Don't feel bad. I missed that lesson, too ...

[Takket]

2. wow.........

Link to tweet

?s=20

This is what happens when you send someone that isn't actually a lawyer into an actual court instead of just letting him vomit his lies in front of laura ingram all day.

the court room is the last bastion of sanity in a post-truth world created by the GOP...........

[Alhena]

7. This is stuff that every law student knows. Literally. You spend like a month on this stuff in

Constitutional Law courses.

[OAITW r.2.0]

13. Thing is, Trump must know this.

Is he so detached from reality, that he thinks Rudi is the right guy to argue his case at a Supreme Court? It's like, he DOES NOT GIVE A SHIT what he is doing to the US judicial system.

I really hope Biden revisits his thinking that "sweeping Trump under the Rug" is a good long term strategy for the USA. We did this in 2008 and look what the opposition delivered in 2016.

[warmfeet]

35. He does know this, well, his lawyers know this.

He is preaching to the choir, erm his base. Fighting this bullshit fight makes him look good to his base. He has plans for them, biggly plans.

[OAITW r.2.0]

38. Gonna be interesting.

Publicly, I expect Biden to play the magnanimous Uniter. Privately, I want a not-Obama response to this organized crime party..

[Thekaspervote]

44. FYI: Biden never said anything of the kind. He said he would leave legal/criminal charges up to

His AG and to the state of NY and would not be personally involved

[Rabrrrrrr]

45. The one thing Trump knows is ratings and how to manipulate people -

he knows he can't win any of these court cases.

It's all for show.

And as a showman, he knows that he need send anyone competent: just someone about whom he can say to his ignorant base "See! Even the courts are against us! The media, the courts, the deep state, everyone! Asking us all those 'gotcha' questions in court, refusing the massive amounts of proof we told them we had..." blah blah blah.

[muriel_volestrangler]

21. "What sort of output"? "Er...what have you got?" "ah, no clues ..." "... about ... medium???"

(From about 1980. The tech has, of course, be made obsolete several times, and made a comeback, since)

[StarfishSaver]

27. That was jaw-dropping

My other favorite was when the judge asked Giuliani about the rational basis standard and he responded "How is it rational for one state to have two different standards" for curing ballots.

[crickets]

28. IANAL and that was highly entertaining!

If only Rudy were capable of embarrassment, he would've sunk through the floor by now. Too funny.

[Budi]

3. Somebody had to do it!

What's PutinTrump going to say when Rudy returns to the WH like a homeing pigeon, failing to deliver the election for Trump?

#RudyFailed.

[Wounded Bear]

4. Has he got to the contempt charges for misrepresenting his DC credentials?

[Ohio Joe]

5. Damn...

I really wish this was being televised, looks hilarious

[demmiblue]

15. Same.

OMG...

The commentary is hilarious!

[OAITW r.2.0]

39. Could be a documentary coming soon.

Based on the transcripts. Bet it would yuuuuge.

[ananda]

8. Best comment: "Only standing is when judge enters the room"

[The Genealogist]

9. Did the judge ask him whether he is Larry, Moe or Curly?

Jeezo Pete. What a maroon.

[chriscan64]

11. If he ordered a pastrami sandwich when the judge said "Order in the Court"

the level of decorum would not have dipped a bit.

[C_U_L8R]

41. Just don't ask to see his briefs

[mr_lebowski]

12. LOL that is such a shitshow for Rudy and Radio Host ... nt

[aeromanKC]

14. The judge sure is getting his $20,000 worth

Not so much for Trump though.

[OAITW r.2.0]

16. Just to reiterate, Rudi G is the legal face of the Trump Republican Party.

Let that sink in.....

[Midnightwalk]

17. Thanks I'm going to be laughing for a long time

Laughing as I go. Up to this one:

"Why do we come to a federal court? Because a federal court protects people..."

OK, buddy.

I’m not a lawyer but I can tell that’s a bullshit answer. Might as well say this is where the cab dropped me off.

[LanternWaste]

18. Sounds like Rudy is both Trump's court jester as well as food taster

Regardless, he certainly exemplifies quite accurately the professionalism and competence of the administration.

[Mr. Ected]

19. Now, multiply Rudy by 200

And that's how many INCOMPETENT, GOP nutsack-licking federal judges Trump, Mitch & the rest of the fascists have appointed since 2016.

Mixing politics and the judiciary is a surefire way to destroy your democracy.

[Shrike47]

20. Hey, that scrutiny stuff is hard.

[SWBTATTReg]

22. Thanks for posting. Wow. Just Wow...

[muriel_volestrangler]

25. It reads like it the early part of "My Cousin Vinny"

except Rudy has no girlfriend to pull his nuts out of the fire. And no case, either.

[Lucinda]

29. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

[tavernier]

30. Interesting reading.

Thanks!!

[LisaL]

31. Well, see, Rudy's strategy is to lose every case so he can move to the Supreme Court.

NT

[FakeNoose]

32. This is the summary I think

Link to tweet

There are other tweets, this is the final. To read the entire spill, check out the link in OP.

Short and sweet - it wasn't a good day for Rudy. It was predictably bad.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

33. threadreaderapp link (unrolled thread, I think) ...

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1328767248903901185.html

[BumRushDaShow]

49. Thank you for that link!

One of my cousins is a lawyer and I just forwarded to her for shits and giggles.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

50. Welcome.

There's a lot in the account that passes right over my head, but I caught enough to realize the Rude Ghoul was not prepared any more than I am.

[grumpyduck]

36. I almost want to think the judge is deliberately

making Rudy and the lawyers look like idiots.

Of course, that wouldn't take too much effort.

[CaptainTruth]

37. @PopeHat has great commentary, from an attorney who has been there, done that.

[ancianita]

42. Chris Hayes is interviewing Giuliani's legal opponent right now, and how facacta the hearing was.

Rudy absurdly kept multiplying remedies, along with Rudy's whole presentation, including the weird conspiracy nature of his original filing.

He's a total fact-free fucking idiot.

[rustysgurl]

43. Trump sure has an "ineffective counsel" appeal case.

I'm a retired paralegal and what I am reading just astounds me. I've heard better questions and answers in Legal Research 101 class.

One of our finals (in advanced classes) was drafting an appellate brief. I think I could have done a better job than he has done.

[scipan]

51. A comment in the thread says that's only in criminal cases

I don't know if this is true.

[BobTheSubgenius]

46. Good!!!

I can't think of a better course to set that case on.

[barbtries]

47. i read the whole thread.

priceless shit. my cousin rudy, but rudy ain't gonna pull it off.

i think he may be senile. there's a lot of nuts and bolts legal stuff he seems to be totally ignorant about. i have read that he was a really good lawyer once upon a time.

[dianaredwing]

48. Like the rest of that group

He is higher than a kite on some cocktail of pharmaceuticals. I would imagine they rattle when then jump up and down, if they could even do that. Actually, Rudy looks like he's doing laughing gas.