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Okay-after watching the Reidout I am scared. There are no more guardrails and dumpt and co are (Original Post) demtenjeep Nov 2020 OP
Yes MI can still certify vollehosen Nov 2020 #1
No need to panic. Laelth Nov 2020 #4
Also, this. Not even the legislature is going along with it DrToast Nov 2020 #9
Rt.. WOW.. Good Find Dr Toast!! TY Cha Nov 2020 #19
Oy vey greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #2
America Is Pretty Much Gone Either Way sfstaxprep Nov 2020 #3
After being virtually leveled and massacred in two world wars, Hortensis Nov 2020 #16
Sadly, that's where I am too. I moonscape Nov 2020 #18
I agree. I just want a four year grace period to get my family the fuck out of this country. Crunchy Frog Nov 2020 #26
2020 Has Really Solidified My View sfstaxprep Nov 2020 #27
Michigan will certify, and we don't need it even if it doesn't Alhena Nov 2020 #5
We sure the f*** need it... regnaD kciN Nov 2020 #6
0% chance Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #11
:) The time to be scared was BEFORE he extremely publicly LOST Hortensis Nov 2020 #7
Michigan SOS is on leftieNanner Nov 2020 #8
Can you give a summary of what she said if you have time? obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #12
She said that the Board of Elections leftieNanner Nov 2020 #15
Thanks! obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #23
The results will be certified. Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #10
You need to unplug and read a book. PTWB Nov 2020 #13
Did you also watch Chris Hayes? The Michigan Rice4VP Nov 2020 #14
What did she say? obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #17
That she won't let them disenfranchise Black Rice4VP Nov 2020 #20
Some folks were freaked because that board is 2-2 Dem/GOP obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #24
Cool! TY Cha Nov 2020 #22
You should Read DU instead of cable.. Cha Nov 2020 #21
Msnbc likes scary anxiety producing stuff too! Nicole Wallace is really the only one that doesn't Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #25

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
4. No need to panic.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 08:55 PM
Nov 2020

If Wayne County won’t certify, the SoS will. She has it under control.

-Laelth

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
3. America Is Pretty Much Gone Either Way
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 08:54 PM
Nov 2020

I really don't think that even Biden is going to be able to fix the damage that has been done, and will continue by the other side even with him as President.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. After being virtually leveled and massacred in two world wars,
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 09:17 PM
Nov 2020

one right after the other, Germany rebuilt into a prosperous industrial nation in less than 2 decades. Germany was devastated, destitute and, like most of the rest of Europe, facing mass starvation at the end of the war. America's Marshall Plan sent food.

In 2020 WE are by far the wealthiest nation on the planet with less than 5% of its population. Just requires enough people to want to restore the widespread prosperity and hard-won labor rights we so foolishly let slip away. And we're finally at a point where a spoiled and too-complacent populace is finally starting to realize it is happening here. Deja vu to the 1930s all over again.

moonscape

(4,676 posts)
18. Sadly, that's where I am too. I
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 09:19 PM
Nov 2020

see this as a period to fight of course, but not optimistic. Biden offers a partial respite, a veneer over the rot he and we are dealing with.

Troubled times.

Crunchy Frog

(26,698 posts)
26. I agree. I just want a four year grace period to get my family the fuck out of this country.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 09:32 PM
Nov 2020

I don't see any possibility of this country not ending up as a fascist dictatorship.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
27. 2020 Has Really Solidified My View
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 10:36 PM
Nov 2020

After all that's happened the last 4 years, and ESPECIALLY the Last 9 Months, seeing 74 Million still vote for him, and make the election even remotely close, shows me that the future is on Extremely shaky ground.

I see the other side fighting President Biden every single day.

Turin_C3PO

(14,118 posts)
11. 0% chance
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 09:13 PM
Nov 2020

that the Supreme Court will not allow PA to certify. Let’s leave the conspiracy theories to Qanon.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. :) The time to be scared was BEFORE he extremely publicly LOST
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 09:09 PM
Nov 2020

to Joe Biden. BEFORE losing is when they normally steal elections, of course. But this one was too strongly monitored and to intensely observed by the public. There are also many guardrails those incompetent wannabe fascists have been unable to kick through. As we've seen.

Focus should be on the two senate seats we still need to win in Georgia. We have the presidency, but with McConnell reelected most of what we want to accomplish over the next 2 and 4 years is still on the line.

leftieNanner

(15,190 posts)
15. She said that the Board of Elections
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 09:17 PM
Nov 2020

Can pull the canvassing process upstairs to a higher level and the Wayne County results can be certified that way.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
13. You need to unplug and read a book.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 09:15 PM
Nov 2020

If you can’t recognize the misinformation being peddled, it isn’t healthy to consume it. Just take a step back for your own mental well-being.

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
20. That she won't let them disenfranchise Black
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 09:22 PM
Nov 2020

voters. The decision goes to another board that’s directly under her and they are meeting tomorrow. The gist is..every vote will be counted and the clerical errors will be resolved

Thekaspervote

(32,817 posts)
25. Msnbc likes scary anxiety producing stuff too! Nicole Wallace is really the only one that doesn't
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 09:31 PM
Nov 2020

Do that shit!!

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