No shit- Trump's dead voters- A reporter looks into it

[packman]

1Alive’s Brendan Keefe (investigative reporter) said on Twitter that of the four supposed dead voters in Georgia that were highlighted by the Trump campaign, two were alive, one was dead but did not vote and a fourth remained under investigation.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-fake-news-dead-voters_n_5fb495d4c5b664958c7be006

[RazzleCat]

1. my mother voted while dead

She was terminal when it was Obama vs Romney. Long short, she voted absentee in advance (may have even voted for Romney), she died November 1. There was no fraud, she was alive when she voted, in all honesty she may have lived to Election Day, but she did not. It never crossed my mind that my mother committed election fraud, and even if she did her one vote would have been statistically irrelevant. fyi she was a life long Republican, but voted Obama the first time, so I can honestly say I have no idea how she voted, at the time of that election her vote was just not on my mind.

[obamanut2012]

2. It is never fraud when this happens

And, in many states, her vote would count.

[moose65]

3. That's not election fraud

Your mother did not knowingly cast a ballot when she shouldn't have.

ANY of us who voted early could have died before election day. In those cases, the ballots (which are numbered) are removed and not counted.

As in all things, there are probably a few ballots like that that slip through the cracks and are counted. That is NOT the widespread "fraud" that Republicans scream about.

I've seen a few crazies on FB go on about cases where a ballot was sent to a person who was dead. I'm sure that happens all the time; Election boards don't automatically get notified when someone passes away. But, that's not fraud. It's only fraud if someone else in the house fills out the ballot and returns it.

[central scrutinizer]

4. They must cross reference county vital statistics

My wife passed away in March 2017. I never notified the election office of her death but she never received another ballot (Oregon vote by mail).

[moose65]

6. Well, yes. But...

It's not instantaneous.

If someone passes away three or four days before the election, chances are their name is still on the registered voter list.

[central scrutinizer]

7. True. Oregon timeline:

Deadline for registration is 3 weeks prior to the election. Then they’re mailed out. My ballot was in my mailbox on Saturday, 17 days before the election. I put it in the drop box the next day and it was checked as received on Monday. Once they verify the signatures and check that the ballots can be read by the machine (bubble filled in, not circled or check marked), the ballots are separated from the signed envelopes. There would be no way to identify and remove the ballot of someone who died in those 2+ weeks before Election Day.

[moose65]

8. Ah, I see

Yes, you are correct on that. In NC, they process mail-in ballots before Election Day. I assume that they are separated from the envelopes and verified, then they are stored until the counting begins. As you said, there would be no way to go back and identify for removal the ballots of those who passed away. Intuitively, I don't think that would be a very high number anyway.

How many drop boxes are there in Oregon? Are they easy to find and to get to? We don't have those in NC - you can either mail your ballot back or drop it off at the County Election Board.

[central scrutinizer]

9. Lots of info here, including a video showing the procedure

https://www.lanecounty.org/cms/one.aspx?pageId=4081147

Statewide drop box info

https://sos.oregon.gov/voting/Pages/drop-box-locator.aspx

[Nictuku]

5. My Aunt was in a similar situation

I was the one who took her to the hospital. She knew it was going to be her last trip. The most important thing to her to do before we left that day was to make sure she filled out her ballot (absentee) and mail it in. It was the 2004 Primary, and she voted for John Edwards (his scandal had not yet been revealed). She died before the actual election. She committed no fraud.