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Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:44 AM

Hillary's loss versus Trump's loss

Hillary (won popular vote): lost by landslide, key mistakes by campaign, out of touch with America, Democrats need to go back to drawing board

Trump (lost popular vote): tremendous turnout, grass roots campaign, rejection of Democratic agenda, Republicans need to build on momentum

I'm hearing these talking points on conservative news as well as the MSM. Am I missing something?

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Shermann Nov 2020 OP
betsuni Nov 2020 #1
gratuitous Nov 2020 #2
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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:49 AM

1. Nothing about Trump's horrendous absurd broke campaign, both times.

Trump ran around doing a million rallies this year and lost, but Hillary didn't go to Whateversville, Wisconsin to give a rally in 2016 and that's why she lost.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:52 AM

2. Also, in terms of raw vote numbers

Far more votes went to Democratic candidates, but it's always Democrats who have to reach across the aisle and make nice with the minority.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:53 AM

3. Rs working hard to flip the script

Never mind the single presidential race, look at all the OTHER races that fared well for the Republicans.

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Response to Shermann (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:55 AM

4. No. You're right.

 

The narrative has been far less kind to the Democrats compared to their narrative toward the GOP after Trump's win.

To be sure, I've heard some in the media compare Biden's win to Trump's four years ago and the fact Trump called his a landslide.

I think where the media is hitting a more negative narrative is that this election was clearly a rebuke of Trump and not the GOP like, say, 2008 or 1992 was. In 2016, Democrats also lost seats in the senate races they were expected to win, specifically seats like Russ Feingold as well as hope in Bayh with Indiana, Kander in Missouri and McGinty in Pennsylvania. So, the Republicans not only kept the House but kept the Senate, which many thought the Democrats would win.

I think that's where the narrative is coming from.

Trump and Republicans won up and down the ticket in 2016.

In 2020, Trump lost but the GOP did much better than expected and have good positioning barring the Georgia race than Democrats in 2016.

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