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Proud liberal 80

(4,392 posts)
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 01:48 PM Nov 2020

I am more disgusted with Republican women than men

I will admit this is probably sexist, but I am more disgusted with them...I guess I hold women up as smarter and more empathic that when they have such abhorrent views I am shocked and disappointed.

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Bettie

(19,704 posts)
2. I do too, but I also know
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 01:53 PM
Nov 2020

many of them (relatives) and they tend to do whatever their husbands and preachers tell them to do.

They also tend to be single-issue voters and that single issue is abortion.

LizBeth

(11,222 posts)
4. It is sexist to expect women to be smarter and more empathetic, you are right. The whole balancing
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 01:58 PM
Nov 2020

struggle with gender is not one is more moral or smarter. People are people regardless of sex which is the point of the movement. Not one is better than the other.

 

Proud liberal 80

(4,392 posts)
7. True
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 02:05 PM
Nov 2020

But ironically I think a lot of them vote Republican to not lose the pedestal that they are placed on by being a woman (mainly white)...

LizBeth

(11,222 posts)
8. The patriarchy condition women and girls as well as men. There are all kinds of reasons. Yes.
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 02:14 PM
Nov 2020

Religion, which is a patriarchal structure, is very strong with these women. Conditioning them from the day they are born, until they die.

Turin_C3PO

(16,385 posts)
5. I'm ashamed of them.
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 01:58 PM
Nov 2020

But I’m even more ashamed of my fellow white men. Especially my fellow non-college educated white men. Sometimes I feel like I’m the only one in that group that has any sense in regards to Trump.

maxsolomon

(38,727 posts)
6. I'm more disgusted with White People.
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 01:58 PM
Nov 2020

"I'm not Black, but there's a lot of times I wish I could say I wasn't White"
-F. Zappa, Trouble Every Day

RAB910

(4,030 posts)
9. I am disgusted by roughly 72 million of my fellow citizens... PERIOD
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 02:20 PM
Nov 2020

I don't need to break them into various groupings

PirateRo

(933 posts)
11. I don't think it's sexism, but it does reflect upbringing
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 02:32 PM
Nov 2020

I could not imagine women holding down other women, let alone men, with this white supremacy/religious nonsense, given their level of suppression in society. I have a friend in Guatemala who rightfully reminded me that the US has never had a female in the executive and that if Hillary did win, it wouldn’t be a “first” as many articles she read at the time claimed. Hillary would be just another in the ranks of women who came before her. And she was right.

I, too, am much more disgusted by Republican women than men. Knowing the history of women in the US, you’d think they’d spur her on but no. They spurn, instead.

This poison also reaches across to African-American women. I had a co-worker actively vote to deny gay marriage. When I asked her how, as a black woman, oppressed her whole life and coming from generations of oppression, could vote to oppress the rights of another, she held up religious drivel and told me it was not the same thing. I had to point out to her that her magical bible had frequently been used in the past to create and sustain this oppression.

Squinch

(59,522 posts)
12. Yes. It is the definition of sexism to hold women to a different standard than men. Which
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 02:34 PM
Nov 2020

is what you are doing.

ariadne0614

(2,174 posts)
14. I'm inclined to do the same thing, until I remember Eve.
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 03:01 PM
Nov 2020

Women have been blamed for the ills of the world, starting with the “Original Sin.” For 10,000 years we were conditioned from birth to accept and enforce patriarchal social norms. For thousands of years there’s been hell to pay for rebellion. Now we’re blamed for not rebelling fast enough. Damned if we do, damned if we don’t.

Now that the survival of democracy depends on rejecting patriarchal/authoritarian/misogynistic white supremacy, women are held in contempt for not moving fast enough. My own frustration with the slow learners runs deep.

That said, this Baby Boomer trusts the generations born after the Civil Rights era and Second Wave of feminism. Let’s hope enough of us did our best to deprogram ourselves, and teach our children well.

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