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Wed Nov 18, 2020, 07:57 PM

BlueLucy (1,286 posts)

All Spec Ops now report to DOD only.

WASHINGTON — Acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller on Wednesday ordered the Pentagon’s top civilian overseeing the military’s special operations community to report directly to him, effectively elevating U.S. Special Operations Command to the same level of the Pentagon’s military departments.

The change makes the assistant secretary of defense for special operations and low intensity conflict a service secretary-like position responsible for the oversight and advocacy of the military’s special operations forces, said Miller, who is expected to serve in the Defense Department’s top job only about two months.

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/acting-defense-secretary-orders-top-special-ops-civilian-to-report-directly-to-him-1.652557

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All Spec Ops now report to DOD only. (Original post)	BlueLucy	Nov 2020	OP
buckle up, kids. nt	Grasswire2	Nov 2020	#1
....so what does this REALLY mean?	FirstLight	Nov 2020	#2
And Popouseo wants to blow them up too.	2naSalit	Nov 2020	#11
Oh my ...	Delphinus	Nov 2020	#3
What is this	cilla4progress	Nov 2020	#4
Special forces and Erik Prince's mercenary goons reporting to a Trumper	Arazi	Nov 2020	#5
And, although perhaps it is unlikely, Erik Prince should be reconsidered	Mike 03	Nov 2020	#7
I guarantee the void in US troops are being filled with Erik's goon squads	Arazi	Nov 2020	#8
100%	4Q2u2	Nov 2020	#9
Well, that's not troubling at all.	Nexus2	Nov 2020	#6
Go ahead, stupid...	Enterstageleft	Nov 2020	#10
No shit.	2naSalit	Nov 2020	#12
Remember the BBC drama "Threads", folks?	roamer65	Nov 2020	#13
That is simply bizarre and evidences a lack of understanding of the DoD role.	TomSlick	Nov 2020	#14
The SecDef is most certainly	sarisataka	Nov 2020	#16
It's not what I was taught in numerous Army staff courses, but you are correct.	TomSlick	Nov 2020	#17
I suppose the real question is: Is this to conceal something in particular, or...	JHB	Nov 2020	#15

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Wed Nov 18, 2020, 07:59 PM

Grasswire2 (12,227 posts)

1. buckle up, kids. nt

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Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:10 PM

FirstLight (12,794 posts)

2. ....so what does this REALLY mean?

Special Ops in Iran? You know Trump has to blow something up before he leaves office, he has all that firepower, he wants to use it!

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Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:42 PM

2naSalit (61,644 posts)

11. And Popouseo wants to blow them up too.

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Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:12 PM

Delphinus (9,941 posts)

3. Oh my ...

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Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:15 PM

cilla4progress (20,100 posts)

4. What is this

about???

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Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:24 PM

Arazi (5,360 posts)

5. Special forces and Erik Prince's mercenary goons reporting to a Trumper

Who has been specially installed by a president whose refusing to accept his defeat.

Not good.

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Response to Arazi (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:27 PM

Mike 03 (16,616 posts)

7. And, although perhaps it is unlikely, Erik Prince should be reconsidered

as we begin to (allegedly) pull troops out of Afghanistan, since he's tried to get his filthy paws on some government contracts to move his private army there.

General Mattis, McMaster, Kelly and others laughed him out of the Pentagon, but all those people who despised Prince's plan are long gone.

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Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:28 PM

Arazi (5,360 posts)

8. I guarantee the void in US troops are being filled with Erik's goon squads

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Response to Arazi (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:36 PM

4Q2u2 (1,320 posts)

9. 100%

He cannot get enough War.
Says a lot about someone intimately familiar with combat that he
Yearns for conflict. Corrosive soul.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:24 PM

Nexus2 (1,261 posts)

6. Well, that's not troubling at all.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:42 PM

Enterstageleft (2,679 posts)

10. Go ahead, stupid...

try fucking with Special Ops. That is the BIGGEST, & possibly last mistake you could ever make.

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Response to Enterstageleft (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:44 PM

2naSalit (61,644 posts)

12. No shit.

They still have an oath to keep and it isn't in Miller's favor or mf45's either.

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Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:47 PM

roamer65 (32,401 posts)

13. Remember the BBC drama "Threads", folks?

That one had it as a conflict in Iran.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:30 PM

TomSlick (9,855 posts)

14. That is simply bizarre and evidences a lack of understanding of the DoD role.

DoD is essentially a huge staff organization. It commands nothing.

The Secretary of Defense - confirmed or acting - is not in the chain-of-command. Special ops commanders fall within a chain-of-command to which they answer. That chain-of-command will eventually reach POTUS but will not go through DoD.

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Response to TomSlick (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 11:06 PM

sarisataka (14,302 posts)

16. The SecDef is most certainly

In the chain of command.

I am not sure where people are getting the idea he is not. The President is CINC, followed by SecDef. Beneath him are the civilian Service Secretaries, then it goes onto the uniformed military members.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 11:34 PM

TomSlick (9,855 posts)

17. It's not what I was taught in numerous Army staff courses, but you are correct.

10 U.S. Code § 162(b):

(b) Chain of command. --Unless otherwise directed by the President, the chain of command to a unified or specified combatant command runs--

(1) from the President to the Secretary of Defense; and

(2) from the Secretary of Defense to the commander of the combatant command.

I live and learn.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:49 PM

JHB (35,459 posts)

15. I suppose the real question is: Is this to conceal something in particular, or...

...is this Donnie throwing a MINE! MINE! MINE! tantrum and shutting off any avenue of outside accountability just for the sake of doing that?

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