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Wed Nov 18, 2020, 07:57 PM

All Spec Ops now report to DOD only.

WASHINGTON — Acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller on Wednesday ordered the Pentagon’s top civilian overseeing the military’s special operations community to report directly to him, effectively elevating U.S. Special Operations Command to the same level of the Pentagon’s military departments.

The change makes the assistant secretary of defense for special operations and low intensity conflict a service secretary-like position responsible for the oversight and advocacy of the military’s special operations forces, said Miller, who is expected to serve in the Defense Department’s top job only about two months.

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/acting-defense-secretary-orders-top-special-ops-civilian-to-report-directly-to-him-1.652557

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Reply All Spec Ops now report to DOD only. (Original post)
BlueLucy Nov 2020 OP
Grasswire2 Nov 2020 #1
FirstLight Nov 2020 #2
2naSalit Nov 2020 #11
Delphinus Nov 2020 #3
cilla4progress Nov 2020 #4
Arazi Nov 2020 #5
Mike 03 Nov 2020 #7
Arazi Nov 2020 #8
4Q2u2 Nov 2020 #9
Nexus2 Nov 2020 #6
Enterstageleft Nov 2020 #10
2naSalit Nov 2020 #12
roamer65 Nov 2020 #13
TomSlick Nov 2020 #14
sarisataka Nov 2020 #16
TomSlick Nov 2020 #17
JHB Nov 2020 #15

Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 07:59 PM

1. buckle up, kids. nt

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:10 PM

2. ....so what does this REALLY mean?

Special Ops in Iran? You know Trump has to blow something up before he leaves office, he has all that firepower, he wants to use it!

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Response to FirstLight (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:42 PM

11. And Popouseo wants to blow them up too.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:12 PM

3. Oh my ...

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:15 PM

4. What is this

about???

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:24 PM

5. Special forces and Erik Prince's mercenary goons reporting to a Trumper

Who has been specially installed by a president whose refusing to accept his defeat.

Not good.

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Response to Arazi (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:27 PM

7. And, although perhaps it is unlikely, Erik Prince should be reconsidered

as we begin to (allegedly) pull troops out of Afghanistan, since he's tried to get his filthy paws on some government contracts to move his private army there.

General Mattis, McMaster, Kelly and others laughed him out of the Pentagon, but all those people who despised Prince's plan are long gone.

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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:28 PM

8. I guarantee the void in US troops are being filled with Erik's goon squads

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Response to Arazi (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:36 PM

9. 100%

He cannot get enough War.
Says a lot about someone intimately familiar with combat that he
Yearns for conflict. Corrosive soul.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:24 PM

6. Well, that's not troubling at all.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:42 PM

10. Go ahead, stupid...

try fucking with Special Ops. That is the BIGGEST, & possibly last mistake you could ever make.

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Response to Enterstageleft (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:44 PM

12. No shit.

They still have an oath to keep and it isn't in Miller's favor or mf45's either.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:47 PM

13. Remember the BBC drama "Threads", folks?

That one had it as a conflict in Iran.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:30 PM

14. That is simply bizarre and evidences a lack of understanding of the DoD role.

DoD is essentially a huge staff organization. It commands nothing.

The Secretary of Defense - confirmed or acting - is not in the chain-of-command. Special ops commanders fall within a chain-of-command to which they answer. That chain-of-command will eventually reach POTUS but will not go through DoD.

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Response to TomSlick (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 11:06 PM

16. The SecDef is most certainly

In the chain of command.

I am not sure where people are getting the idea he is not. The President is CINC, followed by SecDef. Beneath him are the civilian Service Secretaries, then it goes onto the uniformed military members.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 11:34 PM

17. It's not what I was taught in numerous Army staff courses, but you are correct.

10 U.S. Code § 162(b):

(b) Chain of command. --Unless otherwise directed by the President, the chain of command to a unified or specified combatant command runs--

(1)  from the President to the Secretary of Defense;  and

(2)  from the Secretary of Defense to the commander of the combatant command.

I live and learn.

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Response to BlueLucy (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:49 PM

15. I suppose the real question is: Is this to conceal something in particular, or...

...is this Donnie throwing a MINE! MINE! MINE! tantrum and shutting off any avenue of outside accountability just for the sake of doing that?

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