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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:11 AM Jan 2012

ALL THREE Obama Chiefs of Staff made their fortunes on Wall Street. SO WHAT?

Why do the HATERS think this is a bad thing???

We should be proud that Obama is a good enough President that they'll agree to run the country. They could run other countries instead, you know.

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ALL THREE Obama Chiefs of Staff made their fortunes on Wall Street. SO WHAT? (Original Post) MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 OP
Where can we export them so they can fuck up other countries? n/t eridani Jan 2012 #1
Do you think they'd do that for us? MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #2
x 2 AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #3
I think this is a very good thing. Prometheus Bound Jan 2012 #4
Because the values of Wall Street are the antithesis of public service gyroscope Jan 2012 #5
These are good people. Their hearts are in the right place. MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #6
All good points Bragi Jan 2012 #12
According to your logic, Bernie Madoff gyroscope Jan 2012 #16
Which one of his Chief of Staffs is in charge of regulating Wall Street? FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #7
So they're factotums, more or less. MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #8
As I recall gyroscope Jan 2012 #9
That equals regulating Wall Street? That's a S T R E T C H FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #10
No, it isnt gyroscope Jan 2012 #11
It's a stretch because you are talking about the fox guarding the henhouse FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #14
Gibberish gyroscope Jan 2012 #15
Sorry if you have a hard time reading a pretty basic sentence. No need to decipher. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #21
Pres Obama's DOJ spends more resources prosecuting food stamp fraud rhett o rick Jan 2012 #18
Why list them all? This is common knowledge. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #22
MannyGoldstein equates making boatloads of money to good public service gyroscope Jan 2012 #13
Internet is the best medium for conveying irony, comedians say. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #34
Let me answer. None. Actually no one in the Obama admin regulates wall street. Most rhett o rick Jan 2012 #17
ding ding ding, we have a winner!! stockholmer Jan 2012 #20
"Actually no one in the Obama admin regulates wall street." Especially not the Chief of Staff FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #24
But you left out that no one in Obama's SEC regulates Wall Street either. I guess he rhett o rick Jan 2012 #25
But you left out that FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #31
But Dodd-Frank left out Glass-Steagall MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #40
Let me know when they actually prosecute someone higher than a secretary. nm rhett o rick Jan 2012 #45
we have a winnah! nashville_brook Jan 2012 #61
It proves to me that "We the people" and the Obama administration bigwillq Jan 2012 #19
One must also appreciate how each of them took up that important detail Fool Count Jan 2012 #23
I thought that differing points of view were better Angry Dragon Jan 2012 #26
More "Hope-ium" for the masses... cherokeeprogressive Jan 2012 #27
The politicians don't run our government any longer... CoffeeCat Jan 2012 #28
"why doesn't he stop it?" bvar22 Jan 2012 #47
Marvelous post. nt woo me with science Jan 2012 #52
Wow, that is an amazing post... CoffeeCat Jan 2012 #57
Is he being forced to run for a second term, cause I think that being held back from being able to SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #63
everybody who disagrees is a HATER. yeah right nt msongs Jan 2012 #29
/facepalm SixthSense Jan 2012 #30
OH MY Bohunk68 Jan 2012 #32
STOP IT MANNY Skittles Jan 2012 #33
Trashed...nt SidDithers Jan 2012 #35
Then stop with the martinis for breakfast. MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #36
Nice. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #49
Obama Bad Obama Bad Obama Bad JoePhilly Jan 2012 #37
bwahahahaha MadrasT Jan 2012 #42
But Manny will vote for Obama greytdemocrat Jan 2012 #38
Manny will vote for the candidate who best represents traditional Democratic values. nt MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #39
Oh... greytdemocrat Jan 2012 #41
It's called ''Socialism.'' Octafish Jan 2012 #43
Manny, I love yah, but you are like the energizer bunny emulatorloo Jan 2012 #44
Since when was working on Wall Street and/or making money there wrong? Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #46
I think it's been wrong since Wall Street began stealing American wealth from average people DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #50
All, some, or most? Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #53
No. Working on Wall St makes one complicit DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #54
gold frylock Jan 2012 #48
eerrrrr.........ummmmmm..... Marrah_G Jan 2012 #51
Awww, C'mon. Wall Street is the very fount of ethics and humanitarianism. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #55
Was wondering who would be the first to counter the Romney/Bain Capitol stories. great white snark Jan 2012 #56
Really ? GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #59
In this culture ... GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #58
Why vote for Romney Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2012 #60
ALL THREE!!! downwardly_mobile Jan 2012 #62
 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
5. Because the values of Wall Street are the antithesis of public service
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:32 AM
Jan 2012

You want these people in charge of regulating Wall Street?
Like putting the fox in charge of the henhouse.

Obama's entire administration is filled with them.

I thought he was supposed to be different from Bush?
Hope and change? No. Obama is all about the status quo.
 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
6. These are good people. Their hearts are in the right place.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:35 AM
Jan 2012

They made a lot of money. Incredible torrents of money. Enormous money geysers.

So they must be good people, with the public interest at heart.

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
12. All good points
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:47 AM
Jan 2012

These patriots have been slammed by know-nothing slugs who whinged when their over-sized home prices fell, but the guys who invented mortgage-backed derivative securities had hearts of gold. In fact, gold has done particularly well on their watch.

 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
16. According to your logic, Bernie Madoff
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:10 AM
Jan 2012

would make an excellent public servant?

he did make 50 billion after all. by ripping people off.

and Jon Corzine is the next JFK right?

 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
9. As I recall
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:39 AM
Jan 2012

Rahm Emanuel was instrumental in getting the very Wall Street friendly Obamacare legislation to pass with a mandate and no public option.

edit: He referred to liberal groups working to pass the public option as 'effing' retards.

 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
11. No, it isnt
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:47 AM
Jan 2012

when you're directly involved in getting legislation passed that directly effects regulation of health insurance companies, then no its not a stretch by any means.

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
14. It's a stretch because you are talking about the fox guarding the henhouse
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:53 AM
Jan 2012

When 1-It was the Senate that voted down the public option amendments, and 2-I hardly equate that with "regulating Wall Street", especially since their actually ARE people who DO regulate Wall Street, none of which are Obama's Chief of Staffs.

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
21. Sorry if you have a hard time reading a pretty basic sentence. No need to decipher.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:19 AM
Jan 2012

You claimed it was Obama's Chief of Staff who was regulating Wall Street, then failed to provide which one of his Chief of Staff was in charge of regulating Wall Street. That's about it.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
18. Pres Obama's DOJ spends more resources prosecuting food stamp fraud
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:14 AM
Jan 2012

than Wall Street fraud. And we are talking millions vs. trillions. Of course Pres Obama appointed all wall streeters. Do you need me to list them all?

 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
13. MannyGoldstein equates making boatloads of money to good public service
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:50 AM
Jan 2012

talk about a stretch!

by that measure I guess members of the Mexican drug cartels would make excellent public servants?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
17. Let me answer. None. Actually no one in the Obama admin regulates wall street. Most
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:10 AM
Jan 2012

are from wall street. Obama chooses wall street over main street, just look at his appointments.

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
24. "Actually no one in the Obama admin regulates wall street." Especially not the Chief of Staff
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:26 AM
Jan 2012
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
25. But you left out that no one in Obama's SEC regulates Wall Street either. I guess he
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:44 AM
Jan 2012

is just waiting until they need more bail-out money.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
19. It proves to me that "We the people" and the Obama administration
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:15 AM
Jan 2012

really aren't very similar.

It shows that the administration, in part, is out of touch with the realities of the average person, despite its claims that we're all in this together.
The Obama Administration, in theory, wants to help the average person, but the administration is filled with folks who are far from average as far as wealth and status are concerned.

To me it's troubling because most politicians, regardless of party, are still so much better off than the average person and I think it sometimes clouds their judgment even when they try to do the right thing.

 

Fool Count

(1,230 posts)
23. One must also appreciate how each of them took up that important detail
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:25 AM
Jan 2012

(getting a pittance of a salary) for the whole year. And they all have families to feed too.
That's what I call "taking one for the team". But how much can a man sacrifice? I hope
their Wall Street buddies find some way to make it worth their while.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
27. More "Hope-ium" for the masses...
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:53 AM
Jan 2012

That's a good thing though, because I know literally hundreds of Hope-ium addicts.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
28. The politicians don't run our government any longer...
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 02:46 AM
Jan 2012

The corporations--namely the banks--run our government. They call the shots.

They get the legislation they want, they decide who is elected and I'll even go so far as to say
that they decide who any president's advisors and cabinet members are.

I've always had a tough time--watching this country slip further into Fascism with Obama at the helm--because
I am convinced that Obama is a good man and that he wanted to change this country.

I always wondered--why doesn't he stop it?

The answer is--he can't. This is so far beyond him.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
47. "why doesn't he stop it?"
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:27 PM
Jan 2012
"I always wondered--why doesn't he stop it?

The answer is--he can't. This is so far beyond him."


The proper question is "Why is he helping them?"

Single-Handedly, he can't stop them,
but if he had used his Mandate for CHANGE given to him by the American People in 2008,
and IF he had called on HIS ARMY for help,
he could have made a BIG difference.

[font size=5]Obama's Army, Jan. 20th, 2009[/font]



Nobody forced President Obama to give these predators power in HIS White House.
(Rubin, Geithner, Summers, etc.)
He OWNS that one.

There ARE examples of very successful Democratic Presidents who actively FOUGHT the entrenched Money Powers,
and "Welcomed their Hatred."
Obama could have chosen that path.
The door was wide open.
He chose appeasement instead.


Obama could have marched at the head of his army,
and written himself into the history books as one of The Greatest.
Opportunities like the one given to him in 2008 happen only once a generation,
and THIS one was wasted.

NOW, obama's Army is marching without him.
Sad.
he Coulda Been a Contender.



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CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
57. Wow, that is an amazing post...
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 04:36 PM
Jan 2012

...you should strongly consider posting it as an original post. Incredible.

I agree that Obama could have done all of that. However, I do believe that he is
dealing with powerful, global forces who would do ANYTHING to maintain their
power grip and to continue their crimes--which have been happening for decades.

I agree with you. Obama had choices. He did have an army with us. I was one
of his precinct captains and I would have marched to Washington or whatever--if he
had led the charge to end this Fascist takeover of our government.

I think the people doing this to our country and to our world are all interconnected, powerful
and I believe that they wouldn't hesitate to kill or destroy anyone who got in their way.

They could trump up a fake scandal, frame someone for horrible crimes or kill people or
their loved ones.

For Obama to play along--I'm assuming that these animals must be more disgusting and
evil than we can ever imagine.

I know what you're saying. I've spent months pointing out Obama's choices and criticizing
his horrendous moves. What has happened to our country is disgusting, and these bullies have
made tremendous progress toward their Fascist goals while Obama has been at the helm.

You're right--Obama could have been the one to save our Republic. Again, please consider posting
your response as it's own post. It's worth reading and others, I'm sure, would like to read and comment.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,316 posts)
63. Is he being forced to run for a second term, cause I think that being held back from being able to
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 11:00 PM
Jan 2012

'change this country' for the good, I assume, would make him think twice about a second term.


Why would he want to put himself through the stress and bs?

 

SixthSense

(829 posts)
30. /facepalm
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 03:37 AM
Jan 2012

it's a bad thing because it adds to the very large mountain of evidence that Obama is the handmaiden of Wall Street.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
49. Nice.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 03:39 PM
Jan 2012

This was the best possible response to the single word sentence, containing either a verb or an adverb, depending on (non)context. Thanks for the laugh.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
43. It's called ''Socialism.''
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 11:19 AM
Jan 2012

You know: "Socialize the risk. Privatize the reward."

It's the latest thing in Welfare for the Wealthy.

It's still Trickle Down for the rest of us.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
44. Manny, I love yah, but you are like the energizer bunny
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 11:33 AM
Jan 2012

What's up, Romney/Bain Capital stories taking up too much space at DU?

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,948 posts)
46. Since when was working on Wall Street and/or making money there wrong?
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:07 PM
Jan 2012

You seem to be worried about the Obama Administration having some Wall Streeters in his cabinet- despite the fact that Wall Street hates the Obama Administration and its enactment of even mild regulations (oh, and a new cabinet level agency-CFPB)- yet I'm sure you realize that if and when the Republicans get back in the WH, they will (re-)capture and dismantle regulatory agencies (for the second time this century), paralyze the NLRB, and, of course, get rid of the CFPB, and load the entire federal government with Wall Streeters and will bend over backwards to....ahem....service Wall Street at any hour on any day.

Of course, there is absolutely (I repeat, absolutely) NO difference between the two parties!

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
50. I think it's been wrong since Wall Street began stealing American wealth from average people
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 03:41 PM
Jan 2012

They're thugs in the service of theft on a larger scale than has ever been seen in the history of money. I hope that helps.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,948 posts)
53. All, some, or most?
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 03:56 PM
Jan 2012

Does working "on Wall Street" make one automatically bad, evil, etc or something? I'm interested in dealing with the lawbreakers but don't believe in automatically categorizing everybody working for Wall Street as such.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
54. No. Working on Wall St makes one complicit
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 04:04 PM
Jan 2012

There are lots of low-level people just wanting to get their paycheck, and I understand that. Still, they're working in the service of some of the worst people on the planet.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
55. Awww, C'mon. Wall Street is the very fount of ethics and humanitarianism.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 04:06 PM
Jan 2012

Jam packed with bleeding heart liberals who would be shocked and dismayed at making deals that screw people or even give a whiff of underhandedness. And, none of the three do gooders have been convicted...yet.

great white snark

(2,646 posts)
56. Was wondering who would be the first to counter the Romney/Bain Capitol stories.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 04:16 PM
Jan 2012

You don't like them we get it. We got it 50 related posts ago. Problem is your "Obama is owned by Wall St" meme is debunked by Wall St itself.

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