BREAKING: Trump campaign drops its last remaining Michigan lawsuit and claim they won......

[sunonmars]

Link to tweet

Rudy is withdrawing it claiming they won, when they errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr didn't.

Link to tweet

[jcgoldie]

1. Pieces are falling into place nicely

wtf?

[Wounded Bear]

2. And their one win was to get observers to stand closer to vote counters...

[NurseJackie]

3. Did I read correctly that even THAT "victory" had been reversed?

[dware]

5. Yes, it was reversed by the PA SC. nt

[Wounded Bear]

6. Don't know about that...

probably true. The whole shit show is way past getting old.

[BumRushDaShow]

32. It is true

Pennsylvania Supreme Court rules Trump campaign observers had no right to stand within a specific distance during Philadelphia ballot processing

By Katelyn Polantz, CNN

Updated 6:05 PM ET, Tue November 17, 2020


(CNN)The Pennsylvania Supreme Court on Tuesday ruled 5-2 that a Trump campaign ballot processing observer in Philadelphia had no right to stand any particular distance away from election workers, and it's up to counties to decide where poll watchers can stand. It's a significant loss for President Donald Trump's campaign at a moment in which the legal strategy to block President-elect Joe Biden's win and undermine the election results is crumbling and entering its final throes. The state high court's ruling overturns an earlier decision that the Trump campaign had called a major win, even while it affected no actual votes in Pennsylvania. But that small win has propelled the Trump campaign in recent days to argue that vote counts across the state have been unfair and prompted them to push suspicions of fraud.

[snip]

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court spelled out how the Trump campaign's observer, Jeremy Mercer, was able to do everything he was allowed under the law when he was observing the absentee ballot processing in Philadelphia. This factual record undercuts core claims the Trump campaign is still trying to make in court. Mercer had complained he couldn't see signature declarations or other markings on envelopes, but the court said he would have only needed that information if his "primary motivation" was to challenge individual ballots -- which he, as an observer, was not allowed to do under the state law.

[snip]

All seven justices disagreed with the Trump campaign's suspicions of fraud and legal arguments aiming throw out potentially thousands of votes after the fact. The chief justice of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, Republican Thomas Saylor, wrote that the Trump campaign's apparent aim to throw out votes would be disenfranchisement. Saylor wrote in his dissent that he "fail[ed] to see that there is a real issue here." He pointed out that issues over how an election is administered could largely be addressed by courts before the election, and even by trial courts early during ballot counting -- not well after, as the Trump campaign has tried to do. "There have been, and will always be, some localized irregularities,"

Saylor wrote of elections. "This is why courts are open throughout the election cycle, as here, to remedy these just as quickly as possible. It is also one of the reasons why we have a Commonwealth Court, with expertise in election matters, and organized to act expeditiously via single-judge consideration. ... Short of demonstrated fraud, the notion that presumptively valid ballots cast by the Pennsylvania electorate would be disregarded based on isolated procedural irregularities that have been redressed -- thus disenfranchising potentially thousands of voters -- is misguided."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/17/politics/pennsylvania-supreme-court-ballot-observation/index.html

[wnylib]

33. So will he appeal the PA court's overturn decision to SCOTUS?

[BumRushDaShow]

40. Going back even to the 2018 redistricting and the State Supreme court's actual drawing the new lines

the SCOTUS has NOT reversed any of the PA State Supreme Court's rulings deferring ("States Rights" ) to the state.

I think one of the last cases they have in federal court is the one that was argued on Tuesday where the judge cancelled a hearing originally scheduled for today on their nonsense for supposed "presentation of evidence".

That case is the "ballot cure" one, and apparently Ghouliani attempted to revise the case last night to demand that the state throw out all absentee ballots and have the state legislature select the electors.

There is speculation that the district court would throw the case out (I think the decision would come by Friday), but this is probably their last stand to try to get something to the SCOTUS.

PA has to certify the votes by this coming Monday (11/23/20).

[wnylib]

41. Thanks. I followed the Twitter link here to the live

blog coverage of Rudy making an ass of himself in court. Or, rather, showing what an ass he is.

I only wondered about an appeal to the PA court decision because of the speculation that Trump wants to get a case to SCOTUS in the hope that they would rule in his favor. Looks more and more like that path is closing up for him.

[BumRushDaShow]

42. Yeah I had read the unrolled twitter thread on that

and even forwarded to one of my cousins who is a lawyer. Since then, they apparently went back into court last night to attempt to do revisions to their federal suit.

I think their attempts to repeal state rulings keep getting denied/batted down by the SCOTUS, so all they have left is whatever they have in federal court. I did just stumble onto this (audio of that Tuesday fiasco that looks to be about 4 hours long) -

[moose65]

46. Probably not

If the Pa. Supreme Court ruled based on Pennsylvania's state constitution, then the SCOTUS will probably not take that case.

There were several cases in the last few years that were decided based on state constitutions, and SCOTUS didn't touch them.

[Eyeball_Kid]

7. Yes. n/t

[Nevilledog]

18. Here's the case

Link to tweet

[dware]

4. Is this their clear and viable path to victory?

[Roland99]

8. 1-29!! #MercyRule

[C_U_L8R]

9. A perfect record for Trump. ZERO.

So much losing. His supporters seem thrilled to keep throwing all their money down this vortex of incompetence and corruption. Yeehaw.

[sunonmars]

10. updated....er

[Roland99]

11. Way to go, Rudy! AH HA HA HA HA HA!! that man is 6 cans shy of a six-pack!

[sunonmars]

12. I mean WTF really, this is really alternative facts.

[dware]

13. Or, as I like to say,

Rudy's a few sandwiches short of a picnic.

[sunonmars]

14. or a few planks short of a picket fence.

[Lokee11]

15. French Fry Short of a Happy Meal.

FDT!

[dware]

16. There are soooo many sayings, all negative,

that apply to Rudy and Pissolini.

Here's another one, they're not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

[wnylib]

37. Not the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

[usaf-vet]

49. The old time carpenters....half a bubble off on the spirit stick.

[Amishman]

26. The last lawsuit should be Trump suing Rudy

[FakeNoose]

17. Rudy just found out he's not getting paid $20K per day

[lagomorph777]

19. "Uh-oh! You mean I've been working Pro Boner?"

[niyad]

34. You nearly owed me a keyboard.

[padah513]

31. Lol

[bringthePaine]

35. maybe he doesn't take rubles?...

[getagrip_already]

44. "I don't know what pro bono means. It must mean I get paid quickly".... n/t

[progressoid]

20. Now DONATE! We need more money!

[bucolic_frolic]

21. Won what? Trumped up lawsuit of the year? /nt

[Yavin4]

22. There is good news for the Trump legal team.

With a record of 1-29, they're in the hunt for a top pick in next year's NFL draft.

[Initech]

24. The Chargers are in desperate need of some draft choices!

[sdfernando]

38. The Chargers have been such a sucky team for so long

I was volunteering to help load the truck when they left San Diego.

[onethatcares]

39. maybe they should

get some of the New Jersey Generals for their team. :shrug

[Initech]

23. So much winning!

[Doodley]

25. Why aren't Democratic lawmakers/Biden campaign do more to ridicule this nonsense?

[dware]

27. In the words of Napolean Bonaparte,

never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake.

[niyad]

36. Because they have class.

[BobTheSubgenius]

28. It's still an admission of defeat; just somewhat convoluted.

It's like PeeWee Herman tripping over something and landing on his face. "I meant to do that!"

[wishstar]

30. In legalize it's called "polishing a turd"

[packman]

29. We didn't lose - We're advancing to the rear

[yellowcanine]

43. "Rudy Giuliani, former Mayor of New York"

I like how he signs with his last respectable position. When he is flacking for Trump, he is certainly not doing it as the "former Mayor of New York," but rather as a lawyer, however limp his impersonation of that may be.

[judesedit]

45. I honestly wish they would find votes that were switched to Dumpy in a couple of states

to shut them the eff up. Because, imo, they most definitely were. In 2016, also. Lots and lots. And I would like the votes audited for the House and Senate seats. Why isn't that being done...regardless of money? The results are critical in this election.

[iluvtennis]

47. The statement doesn't make sense to me. Is Ghouliani saying that the votes from Wayne County

won't be in the certified results? Didn't Wayne county commissioners certify the results on Tuesday.

Please tell me they haven't managed to disenfranchise the black/brown voters in Detroit.

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

48. I think the word PSY-OPS applies here. Which is another word for "mind fuck" and its what the

soviets used to do, and still do, to keep people confused and powerless.... and subjugated.

Whether or not there is direct involvement by the russkies at this point.... who knows. Maybe, maybe not. Its not like our homegrown seditionists arent capable of doing it themselves.

What does matter is that we are aware of what strategies are being used against us, and to have the language to talk about it and object to it and counteract it.