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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIMHO, this chaos in America won't end until a year or two after Trump passes away
He and his fascist followers will keep trying to bring down America by his actions and rhetoric. His followers will hang on his every word as long as he's alive. When he does finally die, there might be someone who tries to take his spot, but I doubt he will have the same charisma and audacity that Trump has. Trumpism will eventually fizzle out, but not while he's still alive.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)this shit won't stop. But even beyond that. The death cult known as the "republican party" needed to get crushed and reduced to a regional party. But like the fucking undead that they are they keep coming back.
lapfog_1
(29,199 posts)to bamboozle the trumpanzees like the donald. Not Jar-jar, not EEvanka, not junior, and certainly not Eric.
Yet to be seen is how Damien / Baron might do.
Turin_C3PO
(13,964 posts)dont have the dumb charisma of their father. I dont think any of them could gain the support to win the presidency. Maybe they could win the Republican primaries but thats as far as theyll go.
Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)The thought of Jr as president makes my skin crawl.
H2O Man
(73,536 posts)I suspect that it will continue wll after that, but I do like the idea of him being long gone.
albacore
(2,398 posts)But if our justice system... and Congress... do their jobs, that could change.
If he can be shown to be a common crook...wait... UNcommon crook, maybe that might change some minds.
Some of his deluded followers will simply say it was "fake news", but the seeds of doubt planted by prosecutions and convictions might sway enough gullible Americans to turn a large cult into a small one.
With that wedge, maybe we could wedge an opening big enough to return the country to sanity.
Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)They are too afraid of what donald will tweet about them
unblock
(52,196 posts)built by foxnews and hate radio, the base has been brainwashed for 40 years now, and the msm is highly warped by their agenda.
there is a very long list of loonies ready to step into the vacuum donnie will eventually leave behind.
their base doesn't need much to follow their leader, whoever that may be. just be consistently on their side and don't raise taxes.
what's really scary is that their next guy will be more competent at becoming a real dictator.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)PatSeg
(47,399 posts)The conspiracy theories will be endless.
CrispyQ
(36,457 posts)Until we find a way to undo the 40 years of right-wing hate radio brainwashing that has infected rural America, the cult isn't going away.
Americas Next Authoritarian Will Be Much More Competent
Trump was ineffective and easily beaten. A future strongman wont be.
NOVEMBER 6, 2020
Zeynep Tufekci
Contributing writer at The Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/trump-proved-authoritarians-can-get-elected-america/617023/
snip...
Make no mistake: The attempt to harness Trumpismwithout Trump, but with calculated, refined, and smarter political talentis coming. And it wont be easy to make the next Trumpist a one-term president.
more...
At the moment, the Democratic Party risks celebrating Trumps loss and moving onan acute danger, especially because many of its constituencies, the ones that drove Trumps loss, are understandably tired. A political nap for a few years probably looks appealing to many who opposed Trump, but the real message of this election is not that Trump lost and Democrats triumphed. Its that a weak and untalented politician lost, while the rest of his party has completely entrenched its power over every other branch of government: the perfect setup for a talented right-wing populist to sweep into office in 2024. And make no mistake: Theyre all thinking about it.
PatSeg
(47,399 posts)An intelligent, competent person taking over Trumpism. If a low IQ fool with no talent or skills could wreck this much havoc, just imagine what a smart, articulate one could do.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)Vote. Every. Republican. Out. Of. Office.
None of them deserves re-election.
All of them are guilty of subverting democracy.
NOTHING will ever get better in the U.S. until the GOP* is gone!
#VoteEveryRepublicanOut #DeleteTheGOP
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,463 posts)Treason.
Doodley
(9,088 posts)Botany
(70,490 posts).... had for the last 2.5 generations people just being bathed 24/7 in misinformation.
You wouldn't know that for 7 of the last 8 presidential elections the Ds have won the
popular vote and the one time that the Ds didn't get the most in the Presidential it
was 2004 which was very dirty.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)and NO solutions to fix as far as I see
PatSeg
(47,399 posts)but not necessarily the will or consensus to fix it. Meanwhile, I think there will come a point where it may be too late.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)NEVER will care, not much can be done as we can;t set up concentration camps for "re-education" purposes. This schism was started 50 years ago and has been nurtured and cultivated to where we are today. Undoing it? Again impossible. Koolaid drinkers just don't wake up one day and say. hey the koolaid sucks. Its human nature and we are past the turning point of any type of cohesive america. How do we deal with it going forward? We saw 2 years of ineffectual house investigations that lacked real toughness and allowed this admin to run rampant over rule of law. All the GOP has to do is bide their time to 2022 and win the house, Biden will be impeached (not removed) and the divisiveness grows greater. The reality is our hope has to based on a catastrophic COVID impact over next 6 months that some how wakes up what few GOPer supporter with any honor to the reality. I won;t hold my breath. Human nature is more predictable than not.
PatSeg
(47,399 posts)I was thinking that maybe a catastrophic COVID impact was the only hope we have. That or some other really horrendous natural disasters that affect pretty much everyone. As bad as things have been, it would seem not quite bad enough to get through to a large chunk of the population. Something like Armageddon I suppose, though I think we are in the beginning of that already. People just can't see it as long as they have food, shelter, electricity, and Internet.
After the past few years, I getting used to anticipating the unexpected and often unbelievable. It could be viewed as a historical adventure, if it wasn't so damn terrifying.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)sooner, than later. A Midwest drought that takes out 75% of corn, wheat and soybean production is a real possibility sooner than later. Then the ramp up in hurricanes hitting red gulf states. Many deniers will stay denying, but others will not as cost of insurance soars and the rednecks ask for relief....socialism. Farmers already getting socialism relief. The fracture of American democracy is not going to be fixed. Until democrats can go all in with prosecution while they have ANY power to do so.
PatSeg
(47,399 posts)about some damn masks. Well, maybe a few diehards. Of all the issues people could protest about, they chose masks. We truly live in very strange times.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)in the trump admin. Pure evil and why we democrats have a hard time fighting the fight that needs to be won. We do not utilize all the power and tools at our disposal as we have seen in past 2 years.
PatSeg
(47,399 posts)I don't think anyone could imagine the republicans falling so far, so fast. How do you prepare to fight against the ridiculously absurd? This republican party is like a comic book version. I could imagine them being dishonest and even corrupt, but never under the spell of a goofy failed reality TV host.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)PatSeg
(47,399 posts)I'm holding onto my sanity by a very thin thread as it is. I can only handle so much crazy at any given time.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)He loses the pension and secret service agents.
We shouldnt hafta pay for that stuff.
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)kskiska
(27,045 posts)He may not live another four years.
Sarah Palin sure fizzled out quickly. She was no longer viable for any political position after her VP run.