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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 02:31 PM Nov 2020

The only thing that can stop Trump's coup is Republicans, right?

He's meeting with Michigan Republicans tomorrow. His demands are simple. In swing states, he wants Reublican legislators to remove their electors, install Trump loyalists, and declare him the winner in those states.

And because overturning the will of voters is unconstitutional, the remedy for this is Congress, and because it would end up in McConnell's lap, as long as they stay in lock step, there's really nothing that can be done about it.

Correct?

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The only thing that can stop Trump's coup is Republicans, right? (Original Post) Miles Archer Nov 2020 OP
That's how I see it LeftInTX Nov 2020 #1
Not going to happen. As this would go to Supreme Court for a ruling beachbumbob Nov 2020 #2
I agree. The Constitution wins in the SC. LakeArenal Nov 2020 #5
Won't happen . . . Iliyah Nov 2020 #3
The courts will be involved Abnredleg Nov 2020 #4
No JennyMominFL Nov 2020 #6
Lots of things "don't work like that" and get done anyway SoonerPride Nov 2020 #7
We have been saying that for 4 years DBoon Nov 2020 #12
No, a thousand times no. Thomas Hurt Nov 2020 #8
they will bribe and/or threaten election officials to refuse to certify for biden unblock Nov 2020 #9
trumpty and republicans will do ANYTHING to hold onto power Merlot Nov 2020 #10
Correct? No. Coleman Nov 2020 #11
Each state has set rules on how electors are chosen. Phoenix61 Nov 2020 #15
If they succeed Freddie Nov 2020 #13
exactly jcgoldie Nov 2020 #16
Wrong. He lost before he started. Hortensis Nov 2020 #14
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
2. Not going to happen. As this would go to Supreme Court for a ruling
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 02:34 PM
Nov 2020

And no way the court will stand for this. Have some faith in the law

Abnredleg

(669 posts)
4. The courts will be involved
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 02:35 PM
Nov 2020

Michigan law,for example, requires electoral votes goes to who gets the most votes. The legislature has no role in selecting electors in PA and WI.

unblock

(52,202 posts)
9. they will bribe and/or threaten election officials to refuse to certify for biden
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 02:41 PM
Nov 2020

they will ask legislatures to overturn elections in states where that may be possible (if they already have a law on the books that lets them step in in the case of a disputed election). well, they'll ask, whether it's legal or not.

when that fails, they will move on to bribing and/or threatening electors to try to deprive biden of the magic 270 electoral votes needed to become president.

if that happens, then the house decides (the senate picks the vice president) but it's one vote per state delegation, so republicans win and donnie is president for another four years.


but it's obviously not close enough to steal. no one's going for it outside the loony tunes inner circle and diehard loyalists. real republican politicians aren't going to risk their entire career and reputation on such a longshot coup attempt.


one state, they can steal, they did it in 2000.

three states, no. they can't steal three states. too obvious.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
10. trumpty and republicans will do ANYTHING to hold onto power
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 02:42 PM
Nov 2020

They won't care if it's illegal or just unethical. The ends justifies the means.

I don't know how they would try to do it, but I know they are dead serious about overturning this election. Everything they are doing, even the ghuliani antics are all towards this end - overturning the election and holding onto power.

Laughing at the Total Landscaping event misses the point all together. That event eclipsed other news for a couple days. For the wrong reasons, but all the low information voter hears is "voter fraud" over and over.

They're serious, and they aren't giving up.

Coleman

(853 posts)
11. Correct? No.
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 02:42 PM
Nov 2020

The are a named set of electors for each candidate. The set of electors are chosen by the most votes attained by a candidate in each state. When you vote, you are voting for a group of electors, not the candidate.

The Constitution permits the electors to be chosen how each state wants. State legislatures can, constitutionally, select what ever group of electors it chooses. "Overturning the will of the voters" is not unconstitutional, see: Gore and Clinton. The House chose Jefferson over Burr. A special committee chose Hayes over Tilden.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
15. Each state has set rules on how electors are chosen.
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 02:52 PM
Nov 2020

The legislature is not involved in every state.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
16. exactly
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 02:54 PM
Nov 2020

Don't see how anyone on either side wants them to succeed. But they seem perfectly ok with allowing the farce to drag on long enough to secure the senate.

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