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NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 06:42 PM Nov 2020

Slate "Lindsey Graham's Alleged Attempt to Toss Georgia Ballots Is Felony Election Fraud"

If he weren’t a senator, Graham might be facing years in prison, according to legal experts in Georgia.

By MARK JOSEPH STERN
NOV 19, 20204:55 PM


https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/11/lindsey-graham-brad-raffensperger-georgia-election-fraud.html

Since narrowly losing Georgia to Joe Biden, President Donald Trump has promoted baseless claims of voter fraud in a desperate effort to overturn the results of the election. So far, however, the only individual credibly accused of a fraudulent effort to steal the election is South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham. On Monday, Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger—who, like Graham, is a Republican—told the Washington Post that Graham asked him if he could throw out all mail ballots from counties with a high rate of signature mismatch. Raffensperger later clarified that he believed Graham wanted his office to throw out valid, legally cast ballots. The senator has contested this account.

Graham’s alleged request is unseemly and corrupt. But is it criminal? In short, yes, according to multiple Georgia election law experts. If Raffensperger’s account is true, there is virtually no doubt that Graham committed a crime under Georgia law. The more difficult question is whether Graham will suffer any consequences for his alleged offense. Because he is a Republican and a sitting U.S. senator, Graham likely won’t face an investigation, let alone prosecution, for conduct that would get almost anyone else arrested. It might be tempting to dismiss Graham’s alleged interference as unscrupulous strategizing blown out of proportion. But Georgia has a sordid history of prosecuting putative voter fraud involving far more innocent conduct. Graham does not deserve a pass simply because he is a wealthy white senator.

To understand why Graham’s alleged conduct was criminal, we have to look at what, exactly, he asked Raffensperger to do. He says Graham wanted him to toss out thousands of perfectly valid mail ballots, omitting them from the official count, because they were mailed from a county with unusually high rates of signature mismatch. (That means the signature on the ballot envelope doesn’t match the signature on file.) Signature mismatch disproportionately affects racial minorities, who lean Democratic overall, and Georgia is required to let voters cure a mismatched signature under a federal court order.

Had Raffensperger followed through with this request, he would’ve run afoul of several state laws. In Georgia, it is a crime for anyone, including election officials, to destroy a ballot. It is also a crime for anyone to falsify any records or documents used in connection with an election, or to place any false entries in such records. Another law explicitly criminalizes such conduct by elected officials, prohibiting the falsification of any document related to their public office.

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Republicans are not always so lenient toward those accused of election-related crimes. In 2012, a GOP district attorney charged Olivia Pearson, a Black woman, with voter fraud after she helped someone use a voting machine. She was acquitted after two trials, avoiding a five-year prison sentence. In October, she was arrested again for trying to help someone else cast their vote. State officials have also launched an ongoing investigation into voter fraud with the intention of prosecuting individuals who made mistakes that did not affect the outcome of any election. Graham’s phone call with Raffensperger might seem like a relatively minor offense. But if he weren’t a white Republican senator, he may well be facing years in prison.

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Slate "Lindsey Graham's Alleged Attempt to Toss Georgia Ballots Is Felony Election Fraud" (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Nov 2020 OP
Indict his ass!!! grobertj Nov 2020 #1
On January 22. Squinch Nov 2020 #2
Can't he be indicted by GA now, since this would also be a State crime, and not just a Federal one? TheBlackAdder Nov 2020 #29
Yes... or something. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #31
Senators speech is only protected in the chamber, I thought. bullimiami Nov 2020 #3
U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 6 ... Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #7
Felony DanieRains Nov 2020 #10
It indicates he's not privileged from arrest in this. For felony, see prosecutor. or ... Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #13
No- this one. James48 Nov 2020 #20
and maybe ... Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #21
Oh F-K, and 'thanks,' elleng Nov 2020 #4
Is there a statute of limitations? I want him prosecuted! ecstatic Nov 2020 #5
Russiapublicans scream about voter fraud to distract from their commission of election fraud. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #6
Exactly! catrose Nov 2020 #8
Correct. Voter fraud (which we don't do) would be penny-ante stuff. klook Nov 2020 #15
People Like Lindsey Graham Can Commit All The Crime They Want DanieRains Nov 2020 #9
Or maybe on January 21st it can change. n/t Mr.Bill Nov 2020 #12
arrest him rdking647 Nov 2020 #11
He won't even get a tiny slap on his wrist. warmfeet Nov 2020 #14
All Republicans who aren't criminals please stand up. Just what I thought... rickyhall Nov 2020 #16
In my mind, I could picture old two faced Lindsey in prison! I think he would fit right in Illumination Nov 2020 #17
Lock Leningrad Lindsey Up! "Patriot" my ass. "Traitor" is closer to who he is. Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #18
Under Federal Law- it's a crime. James48 Nov 2020 #19
Could any Georgia voter that could have been affected by this have standing in a lawsuit? Stacey BComplex Nov 2020 #28
Is there a good reason he can't be investigated right now? #LockHimUp amywalk Nov 2020 #22
Was it Menendez who was indicted and tried a few years ago? Karadeniz Nov 2020 #23
He's a Republican politician, therefore Federal law does not apply to him. He gets a pass. Kablooie Nov 2020 #24
It would be great if someone would make a bigger deal out of it. dchill Nov 2020 #25
Part of a bigger conspiracy. Kid Berwyn Nov 2020 #26
K&R UTUSN Nov 2020 #27
Lindsey Graham types are why I left the South Tommymac Nov 2020 #30
Let the prosecution begin mdbl Nov 2020 #32
Weissman seems to think so. triron Nov 2020 #33

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,321 posts)
7. U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 6 ...
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 07:36 PM
Nov 2020
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei#section6
Article I, Section 6
The Senators and Representatives shall receive a compensation for their services, to be ascertained by law, and paid out of the treasury of the United States. They shall in all cases, except treason, felony and breach of the peace, be privileged from arrest during their attendance at the session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any speech or debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other place.


( Emphasis added )

Lindsey Graham was not in attendance, going to or returning from same, nor making a speech or debating in the Senate when he attempted election fraud.

elleng

(130,864 posts)
4. Oh F-K, and 'thanks,'
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 06:53 PM
Nov 2020

as my daughter woke me with this question: 'How can he be impeached?' I DUHed a bit, cause didn't know which of the many criminals she was referring to.

ecstatic

(32,681 posts)
5. Is there a statute of limitations? I want him prosecuted!
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 06:58 PM
Nov 2020

Who exactly would be responsible for filing the charges? Georgia's AG? Fulton County's AG? South Carolina's AG? The FBI? The GBI? Who, damn it?!

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,321 posts)
6. Russiapublicans scream about voter fraud to distract from their commission of election fraud.
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 07:29 PM
Nov 2020

Leningrad Lindsey should be investigated to see if he did to South Carolina voters what he tried to get Raffensperger to do to Georgia voters.

klook

(12,154 posts)
15. Correct. Voter fraud (which we don't do) would be penny-ante stuff.
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 08:43 PM
Nov 2020

When they do fraud (which is every election), Republicans like to go big.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
9. People Like Lindsey Graham Can Commit All The Crime They Want
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 08:11 PM
Nov 2020

They are not the prison type.

Powerful white folks don't sit in prison regardless what crimes they commit.

See Paul Manafort. See Roger Stone.

I am sure Kemp committed crimes too.

Maybe in 100 years this can change.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
11. arrest him
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 08:31 PM
Nov 2020

and if the state of georgia wont one of bidens first acts should be to have him placed in cuffs.
can you imaging a perp walk with him....

 

Illumination

(2,458 posts)
17. In my mind, I could picture old two faced Lindsey in prison! I think he would fit right in
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 08:47 PM
Nov 2020

rather nicely. He could learn a new trade like making license plates! He might even enjoy it!...

James48

(4,435 posts)
19. Under Federal Law- it's a crime.
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 09:15 PM
Nov 2020

I want the FBI to investigate, and the DOJ to prosecute.

18 U.S. Code § 595. Interference by administrative employees of Federal, State, or Territorial Governments
U.S. Code



Whoever, being a person employed in any administrative position by the United States, or by any department or agency thereof, or by the District of Columbia or any agency or instrumentality thereof, or by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States, or any political subdivision, municipality, or agency thereof, or agency of such political subdivision or municipality (including any corporation owned or controlled by any State, Territory, or Possession of the United States or by any such political subdivision, municipality, or agency), in connection with any activity which is financed in whole or in part by loans or grants made by the United States, or any department or agency thereof, uses his official authority for the purpose of interfering with, or affecting, the nomination or the election of any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both

BComplex

(8,035 posts)
28. Could any Georgia voter that could have been affected by this have standing in a lawsuit? Stacey
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 01:07 PM
Nov 2020

Abrams, for instance?

Kablooie

(18,625 posts)
24. He's a Republican politician, therefore Federal law does not apply to him. He gets a pass.
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 09:32 PM
Nov 2020

If he were a Democrat they'd throw the book at him but Republicans are not allowed to be prosecuted for any crime with the aim of keeping Republicans in power.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
30. Lindsey Graham types are why I left the South
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 02:19 PM
Nov 2020

Too many privileged white racist hypocrites in all fields of work. And the majority of the regular folks defer to them.

Perhaps in 25 years things will be different, but I wanted to live MY life in a Blue State where I am treated as a human being not chattel.

Southern Man you have failed.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
32. Let the prosecution begin
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 10:35 AM
Nov 2020

I am so sick of obstructionist idiots like lindsey graham. How dare he try and invalidate my vote.

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