Nikki Haley gets roasted by AOC

[melman]

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When will they learn?

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[gratuitous]

1. Nikki's going to need a good cut man

Stay out of the ring against Rep. Ocasio-Cortez, Nikki. You're in way over your head.

[Mike 03]

2. Seriously, my money is on AOC every time.

To run with your boxing analogy, she's the Million Dollar Baby.

The sky's the limit for that woman.

[ResistantAmerican17]

3. Mick....cut me Mick.

[DanieRains]

23. 1% Of Americans Have $50 Trillion In Wealth

A few are helping out a lot.

The rest are simply helping themselves.

Its Class Genocide. The Class War ended some time back.

AOC Talks about the government helping out non billionaires.

Thats why Republicans hate her so much.

Venezuela!

[EffieBlack]

4. When will they learn ... Trying to roast AOC is like trying to heckle Richard Pryor

Don't try it. It won't end well for you.

[DanieRains]

24. Yep

Made me laugh.

[melman]

5. Kelly Loeffler decides she wants some

And she gets it.

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[TheFarseer]

48. I love how she won't back down

And won’t pull any punches. Would have loved to see her debate Trump instead of a guy that when accused of corruption by the most corrupt President in history, only said “no”. “It’s been debunked” instead of pointing out the 3,474 corrupt things that Trump did! She would have ripped him to shreds.

[greenjar_01]

6. These fools keep forgetting the best line in A Bronx Tale

"Now yous *can't* leave."

They came for AOC. It didn't end well for them.

[c-rational]

31. +1 I remember, good line.

[northoftheborder]

7. Ms. Loeffler's hair drives me crazy. Is she a witch or Rapunzel?

[niyad]

14. Please don't insult witches like that.

[northoftheborder]

89. Sorry - was visioning the Wizard of Oz version!

[dchill]

34. Neither. She's a Republican Spokesmolitician.

[Baked Potato]

8. Nikki, you and your buddies can send your checks back to the Treasury.

Then, we can upgrade the failing infrastructure on military bases. Military families deserve better housing.

Trump and Republicans took money from the military to fund his Folly-Wall.

[LanternWaste]

9. Rep. Ocasio-Cortez is certainly quick with the applause lines.

[Autumn]

12. What you consider an applause line others see as AOC stating a fact about a fucking Republican

grifter. That makes many people uncomfortable. Good for her, every Dem should be doing that. Constantly.

[LanternWaste]

13. The one doesn't deny the other.

(if we look hard enough for insults, we can find them anywhere... even in places where they don't exist)

Good for her, indeed!

[Autumn]

21. Good for her, indeed! The truth always wins a favorable response from me. Like Harry Truman,

she gives them the truth and they think it's hell.

[melman]

25. Oh my...

I do love holiday pretense!

[LanternWaste]

27. Whatever gets you through the night.

Oddly enough, I can't help but think "Who's causing division? Name names!!!" when pretense is summoned.

[melman]

29. Well you took a jab at AOC and then tried to pretend you weren't

So I think it fits.


And you still don't seem to get the point of that post. But that's okay.

[cwydro]

92. Thank you.

[George II]

32. I can't help but think of this Seinfeld moment:

[JoeOtterbein]

36. Remember: The first shoe that fits, is free.

The second costs cash on the barrel-head.

[sheshe2]

49. Bingo.

[George II]

28. +1

[Hortensis]

115. Yup. What I see is just two people who want attention each saying

what their bases want to hear -- in a hostile manner so it'll get coverage. Last week it was Manchin, don't know who in between.

The other thing that occurs is that Ocasio's work as a representative in congress does not include public sparring with people like Haley, who's neither one of her colleagues on the other side of an issue nor one of the constituents who sent her to congress to represent them. No doubt it's on her own time, after all her committee assignments and constituent duties are outstandingly met.

[cwydro]

119. This. nt

[wnylib]

128. Looks to me like AOC responded

to a jab that was directed at her. And did a damned good job of it.

[Hortensis]

129. :) Yes, she did fine.

[NurseJackie]

64. No they shouldn't.

every Dem should be doing that. Constantly.

No they shouldn't.

[progressoid]

33. We need more like that!

If we are going to regain the losses we just experienced, we are going to need people who are quick with the applause lines. Today's political climate needs people who can be heard above the din of every day politicians.

[Solly Mack]

10. K&R

[irisblue]

11. AOCs very very good quality is that she takes no guff on social media

I like that she makes gop-ers heads and conservative commentators heads blow up.

[LanternWaste]

17. My respect for her was solidified when I read the transcript of her response to Yoho.

And when she said she "tried to calm him down, but he wouldn't" I'm guessing MRA heads nationwide began turning purple and going apoplectic for her implication he was being overly-emotional and borderline hysterical. The irony was delicious.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

15. That's gonna piss off the usuals

[Cuthbert Allgood]

87. Vegas odds were like -10,000 on that happening.

[Voltaire2]

94. I just fainted looking at your signature

And now I've lost my pearls.

[Autumn]

145. I found them. Not to worry I'll clutch them for you. Ah heck, in the spirit of the season,

I'll clutch them for everyone.

[GoneOffShore]

126. The Clutchable Pearls and Comfy Mauve Fainting Couch should arrive shortly.

Unfortunately Mrs Grundy’s Special Recipe Extra-Strength Laudanum™ has been discontinued.

[warmfeet]

16. A.O.C.

could very well be an excellent POTUS. Time will tell. At the present moment, I would like to see this happen. Anyway, I have a huge political crush on her.

[melman]

18. AOC is undefeated.

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[Duppers]

19. BRAVO!! K&R

[Deuxcents]

20. I hope Speaker Pelosi

Is mentoring her. And others, of course, but AOC is fearless n I hope she studies hard for her future.

[iluvtennis]

22. Love it. nt

[DanieRains]

26. There Is 60,000 Loopholes Making Sure Billionaires Don't Pay Taxes

Republicans want the Black New Deal.

Every town in America burns to the ground.

Drill Baby Drill!!!!!!

Open Anwar.

Drill Baby Drill.

If Covid doesn't kill us the fires will.

[oldsoftie]

108. Which is why we need a sales tax. Like every EU country has.

Buy your Porsche, pay the tax. Buy your jet, pay the tax.
TOO much money goes untaxed in the US. And its not just because of the tax code. Its because its SO easy to avoid paying an income tax.

[liberalla]

30. Damn! That was good! Thank you AOC !!!

There are some people who'll be seeing this tomorrow...

[AmericanCanuck]

35. It all amounts to nothing

except for some fans who think this is governance.

All I see is an utterly forgettable exchange like millions of others on twitter.

[JoeOtterbein]

37. AOC is still smarter than 99% of the men in DC and...

...100% of the Republicans. And continues to prove it every time.

[George II]

39. ????

[JoeOtterbein]

41. Yes.

In case you are still wondering.

[George II]

43. Actually I'm not wondering.

[AmericanCanuck]

45. How many people will remember this twitter exchange a few days from now?

It is a momentary satisfaction for fans until overtaken by events.

The OP won't even qualify for LBN for example -- it is in the "anything goes" section for a reason.

[Demsrule86]

71. I hope Georgians don't...we have a primary to win in a purple state.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

86. You don't want them to remember her response to the Georgia (R) candidate

about her writing off a private jet because you think that will hurt the (D) chances?

And how does making it clear to Haley that she was wrong cost us votes in Georgia?

People who don't knee-jerk at everything AOC says as harming the party want to know.

[Demsrule86]

95. It has nothing to do with AOC...I have family there AOC has been demonized unfairly...

There are some places she can't help. And Manchin can't help in her deep blue district.

[Cerridwen]

103. I'll set an alarm. How frequently would you like it re-posted/tweeted.

Gotta lotta time sittin' on my hands waiting to collect 8 months of back unemployment and wondering how to pay off 10s of thousands of debt I did not have at the start of this clusterfuck.

[AmericanCanuck]

44. She knows how to make sensational tweets

no one will know how smart she is unless one actually measures the IQ.

Being "smart" is an objective measurement and not a popularity contest and/or fans' prevailing opinion.

[Autumn]

56. She won two elections, so she seems to be popular with her constituents.

And to the chagrin of some she's pretty popular here too. I don't think of myself as a fan, I think of myself as an out of state constituent and donor.

[AmericanCanuck]

57. Any Democrat can win an election in a deep blue district

Let's see how she will do in Wichita Falls, TX or anywhere in Oklahoma.

[Autumn]

59. What goes in red states of course won't play well in blue states,

That's why our blue states here in Americas do so much better in every respect than the red states do. NY has a much better standard of living with AOC than OK has with that corrupt pig Inhofe.

[AmericanCanuck]

63. Don't move the goalposts ... your original premise was proven wrong

AOC has nothing to do with NY's standard of living. It was high before she arrived and it will be high after she leaves.

AOC exists partly because it is deep blue district which allows her the freedom to tweet whatever. It would not be possible in a purple district.

[Autumn]

93. What AOC says resonates quite well in purple districts. You don't seem

to realized that purple is where where Democratic and Republican parties have similar levels of support. You proved nothing. But whatever. I said

That's why our blue states here in Americas do so much better in every respect than the red states do. NY has a much better standard of living with AOC than OK has with that corrupt pig Inhofe.

I didn't say AOC was responsible, fact she is in the progressive? Liberal group that pushes for policies that benefit the people in our blue areas. Inhofe believes in benefiting the wealthy, himself and business.

Blue states scored better two ways — higher overall average rankings vs. red states (No. 22 vs. 27th) and better average grades in eight of the 14 separate ranking topics: livability, raising a family, healthcare, education, economy, job growth, personal freedoms and worker rights. Red states graded higher for six subjects: population growth, cost of living, lower taxes, business friendliness, and government solvency.
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/01/08/blue-states-rank-better-than-red-ones-howd-your-state-fare-in-14-national-rankings/

[AmericanCanuck]

113. The last election proved that statement to be untrue.

We lost the seats and lost Florida.

Socialism is radioactive.

[Autumn]

120. We were never going to have Florida. And Cubans will never vote for Democrats socialism had

nothing to do with it, it's their blind faith in religion. Maybe in 100 years. What's going on is a generational shift and that can't be stopped. Progressives seemed to have done well, now I'm bored with this conversation so I will leave you with this link. Read it or not.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-11-05/progressives-score-election-wins-in-u-s-cities
“The first thing to note is that Democrats are winning the popular vote, and their numbers are only increasing in urban and suburban areas, with demographic change in the south and southwest,” she says. “Arizona flipping, Georgia in a dead heat, Texas moving left, and wins down ballot are a sign this country is shifting.”

Ross Morales Rocketto, co-founder of Run for Something, which backs state and local progressive Gen Z and Millennial candidates, emphasizes the generational shift in local politics. Overall, Run for Something endorsed 525 candidates this cycle, with 202 victories, 77 races left to call and three runoffs as of Nov. 5. Among the winners: Gabriella Cázares-Kelly, an Indigenous candidate who declared victory in her race to be the new Pima County Recorder, which oversees elections in the Tucson area; she ran in response to other Native Americans being disenfranchised. And Nikil Saval, an Asian-American architecture critic and first-time candidate just elected to the Pennsylvania State Senate, ran in part on a “housing for all” agenda.
Rocketto also pointed out a pair of congressional winners who come with progressive credentials: former nurse and Ferguson activist Cori Bush, the first African-American woman to represent Missouri in the House of Representatives, and former middle-school principal Jamaal Bowman from New York City, who has promoted restorative justice and increased community investment.

These political newcomers, Rocketto says, reflect a generation that grew up watching Democratic leaders from Bill Clinton’s “big government is over” school of politics try to solve massive social problems with small fixes and slight shifts; now, they are loudly asking why government can’t do more. Rocketto doesn’t see it as an ideological fight as much as a demand that things get done. “Democrats have been in control of most major American cities for decades and Black people are still being killed on the streets by police,” he says. This summer’s racial justice protests fueled a surge in interest from younger people interested in public office, he says. “It was already too late to get on the ballot, but we had literally thousands of people contact us about running. We haven’t come close to seeing all the young candidates running for office in cities, counties and school boards. There will be a wave of new people in 2021.”

[AmericanCanuck]

122. Obama won Florida TWICE

Because Obama is not a socialist nor was he tainted with the socialist label because we didn't have any "socialist" candidates until 2016.

The whole socialism thing is a really wrong way to go.

[Celerity]

66. Manchin or Henry Cuellar types would get crushed in many primaries as well.

Look at what happened to the Republican in Dem clothing Michelle Caruso-Cabrera for instance, against AOC.

It is a two way street. The party needs both ends of the spectrum it now contains to maintain a big enough tent to maintain power on a national basis. Run off the left quarter to a third of our party and say hello to perma rule by the Rethugs at every level. No amount of rightward drift (in a futile attempt to make up for the lost voters from the left end) at that point will work.

Go full stop slightly to barely left of center and then deep into centre right territory chasing centre right wing Republican suburbanites and it will be the death knell of the Democratic Party, especially with the coming demographic shifts that will eventually mitigate and then end the white boomers and older white gens as RW enabling forces.

[AmericanCanuck]

69. No one is advocating Manchin or Cuellar to run for POTUS.

[Celerity]

70. strawman, I never suggested AOC run for POTUS

[AmericanCanuck]

73. Please look further down the thread.

[Celerity]

74. Why? I have had my say in regards to your attacks, if you want to have a go about AOC ad POTUS

then by all means, carry on with someone who is actually advocating for that. You hardly limit yourself to just that particular narrow point of focus about her.

[AmericanCanuck]

111. There is no attack. AOC may turn out to be the very finest congresswoman.

However, I won't make that determination based upon tweets.

I want to see actual legislation introduced and shepherded through the chambers to get it passed.

It is too early for fawning in my opinion.

[George II]

147. Neither Joe Manchin nor Henry Cuellar will be running in a primary in NY-14.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

88. Crowley couldn't.

[Voltaire2]

91. that's unfair.

funny as hell though

[AmericanCanuck]

112. Fail. That was in the primary. Crowley never lost the GE.

There was only a 12% turnout because of confusion re: the date of the primary.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

118. Excuses, excuses as to why Crowley lost.

I've read elsewhere on this thread that AOC represented highly educated wealthy people who, now I learn, are apparently not smart enough to know when the primary is.

But, hey, whatever. You're no fan of AOC and will find whatever to support that view. I'm quite sure if Hillary or Nancy said just one of the fantastic things AOC has on Twitter, you would be loving it.

[George II]

141. The population of the 14th District isn't highly educated or wealthy.

[George II]

140. Crowley never lost an election in that District.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

146. Primary isn't an election?

Huh, things you learn on DU.

[cwydro]

99. And I think there was a very low turnout when she won, if I remember correctly.

[George II]

144. There was a lot of confusion in 2018. There was a highly publicized state-wide....

....primary for Governor, Lieutenant Governor, and Attorney General in September. Lost in the shuffle was the "federal" primaries for members of Congress which took place in June.

Many people assumed that all primaries would be in September so they didn't show up in June. Turnout was only about 11%, and statewide was about 1/3 that for the September primary.

[Caliman73]

117. You are doubting that she is intelligent?

She graduated Boston University cum lade with a degree in international relations and economics. She interned with Ted Kennedy. She started and ran a publishing firm. She successfully ran two political campaigns. Her responses are typically articulate and while they show an opinion that some people may not agree with, they are not unintelligible.


She has more to learn, especially about politics and holding her fire, but are you seriously implying that she isn't smart?

The only measure of intelligence to you is an IQ test? You do know that there isn't just one IQ test right. There are several, that are typically given in a battery of other assessments because intelligence is difficult to measure objectively.

If you don't like her just say you don't like her and why. Direct communication is always better than insinuating things.

[questionseverything]

51. Ok boomer

Tweets are how young people learn, communicate .

The national average for young people voting in the general was 17 percent, in Georgia it was 21 percent. If we can add a point or two to that we win the senate. Letting young people know about one candidate’s private jet and her possibly illegal write off of same is priceless.

[AmericanCanuck]

52. Are you blaming all boomers?

What makes you think I'm a boomer?

[questionseverything]

55. I am a boomer

But I love young people getting involved and wouldn’t belittle their efforts

She can reach a hundred thousand peops with a tweet so i am grateful she is on my side, your response made me think you don’t value her

[oldsoftie]

110. I agree, but few others will. Just like children bickering. But thats Twitter.

Its all about getting the retweet.

[Mr. Evil]

38. I seriously hope AOC runs for president someday.

The sooner, after she turns 35, the better!

[JoeOtterbein]

42. Me...

...two!

[George II]

46. ...to

[Celerity]

60. too?

[Cuthbert Allgood]

90. Oh my god, that was priceless, wasn't it.

[Voltaire2]

96. It is the Oxford to.

Most people are unaware of its usage.

[Autumn]

53. Me...

...three!

ASAP

[JI7]

54. How about Senate or Governor ?

[AmericanCanuck]

58. She can't win a state-wide office

All this is preparation for running against Schumer in 2022.

It will go nowhere.

[Mr. Evil]

62. Senator, yes.

Governor, not so much. I just feel she has so much to offer the entire country instead of just one state. I guess that's my selfish side showing itself.

[NurseJackie]

61. Let's see her win a statewide election first.

Her appeal and her message is narrowly focused to appeal to her very blue and very safe district (and her left-most fans) however, even the Democratic voters in places like Peoria or DesMoines would likely view her as being too extreme and too inexperienced. It's no secret that New England style Democrats do not do well in the Heartland or in Appalachia. (see: Joe Manchin)

The sooner, after she turns 35, the better!

Age has nothing to do with it. What we need is experience and someone who knows how to appeal to all citizens (not just a limited segment) and who can be competitive on a large scale outside of a small district. Statewide and national politics are very different. Just because someone is "35" doesn't mean that they have the experience necessary.

Personally, I think the age should be raised. Back when it was set at "35" by the Constitution in 1787 the life expectancy in America at that time was about 38 years for a white male. Of course, people lived longer, but on average, they didn't. Things were challenging. As a result, the minimum age of 35 made sense at the time. Now, it no longer makes sense. It's time to raise the minimum age for POTUS to be 40. Maturity an experience are more important than eagerness and spunk, or piss-&-vinegar.

[AmericanCanuck]

65. She has already been branded as an extremist by a vast majority.

The "defund the police" and "socialist" cost Biden hundreds of thousands of votes already.

It is the very nature of fan clubs -- an XYZ fan club thinks XYZ has superlative attributes, can do no wrong and has powers beyond the average human being. Join any fan club on facebook and you'll see a lot of gushing and ooohing and swooning. Objective thinking is nonexistent.

[Celerity]

68. She is a prominent member of our party, there is literally nothing you or people like you can

do about that, and the more you attack her and others like her the more damage you do to our party unity-wise (it was the centrists like Spanberger and Manchin who came out punching first, not the more left-leaning types)vand the more ammunition you give to the RW.

A bird needs two wings to fly.

[AmericanCanuck]

72. She is prominent because she tweets and has a fan club.

She needs to become accomplished in introducing legislation and getting it passed. That is an accomplishment for a congressperson. NOT tweeting.

[NurseJackie]

80. That's a good way to describe it.

Personally, I judge a politician by their legislative accomplishments and their ability to get things done for their constituents and for our nation as a whole. Look at Sharice Davids, for example. She doesn't spend the better part of her workday tweeting or feuding with rivals... she's busy working and her efforts are met with great success and appreciation from her constituents. She is a model representative. We need more like her.

[Celerity]

85. a fan club, lol

more insults for someone who helped galvanise a shedload of voters to come out en masse for Biden

If she is indeed not that prominent and is just the president of a fan club, then why does most every thread on her here blow up, and most every major media outlet carry news stories about her all the time?

She helps shape sentiment for millions of our voters, and has tremendous media reach. She is one of the most well known Democrats in the entire Party.

[AmericanCanuck]

114. Please show me a link where voters voted for Biden because of AOC

Otherwise it is just propaganda.

Also, every Democrat should have automatically supported Biden. She doesn't get points for doing what was right and necessary.

[Celerity]

125. Biden is going to end up getting well over 80 million votes, probably over 81 or 82 million when all

is said and done. Trump had a large increase in raw popular vote totals too, so it wasn't like Biden's massive numbers were solely built on centre-left, centrist, and conservative Dems plus defections from Republicans.

The younger voters and the progressive votes turned out in droves for Biden. If you think that AOC, Bernie and many of the other progressives literally had zero impact on driving the younger voters and the progressives to the polls you simply do not understand electoral politics. She campaigned her ass off for Biden, as did Bernie. If she had not, if Bernie had not, they would be getting flayed alive. That alone shows they have impact, as you cannot bang on them if whatever they do is basically meaningless. I also do not think, based upon your overall tenor and tone, that you know as many voters my age (the 18-30yo cohort, I am dead in the middle at 24) group as I do, and even if you do, you do not you seem to understand them as well. That is simply my opinion, based upon this colloquy and your posting elsewhere. If you did understand those cohorts better, you would understand what a huge impact she has on the 40 and under groups. You seem to overly concerned with trying to minimise and/or negate any and all about AOC in terms of any impact (other than a negative). It is rather curious.

Biden himself certainly thought she aids him.


Biden Names Ocasio-Cortez, Kerry to Lead His Climate Task Force, Bridging Democrats’ Divide

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/13052020/biden-ocasio-cortez-kerry-climate-task-force



about that youth vote............................


The Latest: Updated Youth Voter Turnout Estimate

https://circle.tufts.edu/latest-research/election-week-2020

Updated November 18 | 10:30 a.m. ET — According to CIRCLE’s exclusive estimates, youth turnout was much higher in the 2020 election than in 2016.

Our calculations, based on votes counted as of November 18, suggest that 52%-55% of voting-eligible young people, ages 18-29, cast a ballot in the 2020 presidential election. Using the same methodology and data from a week after the election in 2016, we had previously estimated that youth voter turnout in 2016 was 42-44%.

In addition, we are projecting that once all votes are counted, youth turnout may rise to 53%-56%. Our 2016 projection based on the same data was that youth voter turnout that year would be 45%-48%. It’s notable that even the early youth turnout estimate for 2020 is higher than the projected estimate from 2016.

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Name me some other Dems who can draw 5 million views in less than day for an online campaign event (and it was a campaign event, to try and say it wasn't would betray a profound lack of understanding about youth culture in 2020).

I watched multiple online, highly promoted Biden (himself) events, and almost all of them struggled to get between 15 and 25,000 live (some had as few as 2400 real time streamers) views, and certainly came nowhere near 1.5 million live and 5 million in the first 24 hours view. Obviously Bide drew HUGE numbers for the Convention, dwarfing Trumps, and he had huge numbers for his big townhall on regular telly, but Biden is the centrepiece, the one running for the Presidency, and I never, ever claimed he was not effective, amazingly so. I am simply pushing back on your diminution attempt towards AOC.


The gamer vote: Democrats lean into video games to aid Biden campaign

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2020/10/22/video-games-2020-presidential-election-biden-trump/

On a Tuesday night, two weeks before the 2020 presidential election, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) “murdered” a star video game streamer in cold blood.

“It feels like an honor to get murdered by AOC,” said Imane “Pokimane” Anys, who played the murder mystery game “Among Us” with Ocasio-Cortez, Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) and a host of other notable streamers during an hours-long session on live-streaming platform Twitch.

At both the beginning and end of the stream, Ocasio-Cortez’s first on her newly minted Twitch channel, the congresswoman pleaded with viewers to register to vote and make a concrete plan to get to the polls on Election Day. The live video feed accumulated more than 1.5 million total views, according to stream analytics site Social Blade, with that number soaring to nearly 5 million less than a day later as more people watched the footage on demand.

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[AmericanCanuck]

130. None of that proves that the young voters wouldn't have voted for Biden anyway

even without AOC.

Just because young voters voted doesn't automatically mean they were all voting under the direction of AOC. Some of them may have - but a lot of young voters like Biden and Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg and Beto O'Rourke too.

This sounds very familiar -- first one creates a myth, then repeats it over and over to make a "fact" and then use that "fact" to justify additional myths.

[Celerity]

131. AOC interacted with millions of potential Dem voters during her campaigning for Biden, it is

ludicrous to claim she did not have a positive impact on shedloads and got them to the polls for Biden.

done here, this is tiresome and extraordinarily unproductive

[AmericanCanuck]

133. Myths are tiresome and unproductive

[melman]

135. What's the key word?

[AmericanCanuck]

137. No idea

[NurseJackie]

77. Nobody is attacking her.

the more you attack her and others like her the more damage you do to our party unity-wise

Nobody is attacking her. I'll tell you what genuinely ARE attacks, however. It's when we hear lies and smears like the Democrats being falsely accused of being "Coastal Elites"; or the lie that Democrats are "the party of the one-percent"; and that our stalwart Democratic leaders are "corrupt" and that Democrats are "ideologically bankrupt". Now THAT's what I call divisive. Why are these things never called out as being divisive or damaging to our party "unity-wise".

there is literally nothing you or people like you can do about that,

Wow. "People like you" seriously?? When things like this are said, it really does make the calls for unity ring hollow. Sorry, dear. I luv ya... but this whole thing was a sah-wing and a miss.

[Celerity]

82. Nobody is attacking her.

[jaxexpat]

67. The "Democratic voters in places like Peoria or DesMoines" are also trending younger.

Speaking as a child of the heartland, I remember thinking the sophistication of the coastal kids was so enviable. I drove through the epicenter of Appalachia a few weeks ago, Pikeville, Ky. The stereotypes no longer hold. Except for the rough green mountains you would think you were in central Illinois or coastal Texas. Saw no coal trucks. In 1976, it was difficult to maneuver the twisting hi-ways without being run off the road by them. Straight new roadways are being carved through the roughest terrains. I could imagine the Trump signs replaced by Biden signs without too much of a stretch. Sophistication brings impatience with traditional incompetence.

The national psyche is wireless. Success in whatever is left of American politics has fallen into the hands of those who command the short but tenacious attention span realm most people live within. Hammering a cohesive political message continuously WILL work and AOC is exemplary. The sky may well be her limit. Blah blah blah

[NurseJackie]

76. Oh. I see.

Blah blah blah

Indeed.

[treestar]

79. +1

One of my pet peeves. People think everyone they like should be President.

[MoonchildCA]

98. The extremely low life expectancies of our ancestors,

was due to the high infant mortality rate. If you survived into adulthood, the average lifespan was much higher than 38.
Just thought I’d put that out there...

[George II]

138. Thankfully the American people rely on older candidates to elect as their President. The youngest...

....was Theodore Roosevelt at 42, who was Vice President at the time of William McKinley's assassination.

John Kennedy was the youngest elected, at 43.

[treestar]

78. Why is that always the answer?

She is not from a centrist enough place. The whole country votes for the President, not just a very blue district in NY.

[NurseJackie]

83. Oh, you! Always making smart and intelligent comments and astute observations!

So logical and thoughtful, reasonable and rational... we definitely need more realistic people like you!

[treestar]

143. Aw thanks!

[Mr. Evil]

139. I just think it's time we went a little further left in this country.

And she would be perfect to lead the way. Most politicians always, more or less, try to find a way to protect the money first. Make sure the very wealthy and corporations are placated. It's the working and middle classes that fuel the economy. It's time we were given the first consideration.

[treestar]

142. The voters have to be convinced

and they aren't, especially with the EC, to the point where someone like AOC can win the Presidency. It's fine to like her, but why does she have to be President? There are other ways to contribute.

[mdbl]

40. Someone tell Nikki Haley whatever street cred she had built up in her early years,

she has managed to flush it all down Trump's golden toilet.

[jalan48]

47. She knows how to shut these corrupt fools up and they hate her for it.

[Demsrule86]

75. See that is the issue. AOC unfairly is being given the 'Hillary' treatment in red and purple

states so I am not sure she can help with Georgia...and if Loeffler makes it about AOC...we could lose votes and ultimately a Senate seat or both seats. It is a far different thing to run statewide especially in a red/purple state than to run in a deep blue house district. Consider that Sen.Kirsten Gillibrand came out of Buffalo and was quite conservative in her early days. She ran a successful moderate senatorial campaign in New York which is way more progressive than Georgia presently.

[NurseJackie]

84. You're correct.

I am not sure she can help with Georgia

You're correct. There are others more qualified to deliver a message that resonates positively with the voters of Georgia.

[Demsrule86]

97. Thank you Jackie...I get that she wants to help and appreciate the effort but...

[Cuthbert Allgood]

100. So she shouldn't be raising money through ACTBlue for Georgia?

That $280,000 she raised overnight is going to hurt?

[NurseJackie]

101. Nobody said that.

So she shouldn't be raising money through ACTBlue...

Nobody said that.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

104. Well, that's what she is doing to help.

She fully understands that the women doing on the work on the ground there know what they are doing and need money. So she's raising money. Anything all of you are creating that she is doing that is going to hurt is a strawman.

[NurseJackie]

105. The real strawman is making false claims like that.

Anything all of you are creating that she is doing that is going to hurt is a strawman.

The real strawman is making false claims like that. You know perfectly well that I said nothing of the sort, and what you're claiming is a big difference between simply "raising money for ActBlue" than compared to injecting one's self directly into Georgia politics. Look, all I'm trying to point out to you is that even Bernie Sanders knows that he would be of little help by popping-in to share his views with West Virginia voters. I think, at least I hope, that we can both agree that politicians from deep blue states and districts and regions can be ineffective (or even divisive) when campaigning for or speaking on behalf of others who seek public office in very very deep red states. Georgia's electoral votes went for Biden, but it's still a very red state and the GOP has a distinct advantage there. It serves no good purpose to try and change the subject or to pretend otherwise.

[jalan48]

102. So pointing out that Loeffler is a grifter is bad? I think we need more Democrats speaking out

like this.

[Lucinda]

50. KNR

❤️ ~✿~❧~🌿~❧~✿~ ❤️

[samsingh]

81. does nikki haley - the traitor supporting creep - have any words about trump's attack on Democracy?

repugs continue to be traitors.

[Sherman A1]

106. While nice and all

That and two bucks will buy you a cup of coffee. In the end the great battles over Twitter end up being meaningless.

[AmericanCanuck]

134. +1

[BobTheSubgenius]

107. BURN!!!

"Roasted" was just the right word.

[KG]

109. I lulz'd.

again. estabishment butt-hurt

[VA_Jill]

116. Nimrata

should not go into a battle of wits unarmed...and boy is she unarmed!

[melman]

121. I did a thread on the original tweet

Last edited Fri Nov 20, 2020, 04:37 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214582403

It got five replies and sank into oblivion.


This one on the Nikki Haley reply has 120 and counting.


So, to all the people saying it's just a meaningless twitter fight, she's just looking for attention...etc..


Congratulations, because you are the people paying more attention to that than to this important issue.

[Dem4Life1102]

127. It is amazing

that on a website dedicated to supporting Democrats, so many haters come out of the woodwork to criticize a young, dynamic Democratic Party elected official.

[melman]

136. Yes

Yes it is.

[Sprite]

123. Don't mess with a girl from the Bronx.

She will win everytime.

[bringthePaine]

124. when finding oneself in a hole, first rule is: stop digging🤣

[Autumn]

132. Haley and other Pukes are too dumb to know when "you come at the Queen, you best not miss." ...