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"I work at the Pentagon...Don't worry. This nightmare will be over soon." (Original Post) kpete Nov 2020 OP
I'll ask this much: If trump prevails somehow at the Supreme Court 75% of this country will know Goodheart Nov 2020 #1
I really dont see the SCOTUS backing him up with no real evidence. oldsoftie Nov 2020 #12
Georgia uses the Dominion software. There was no difference between machine and hand count audit. Klaralven Nov 2020 #14
I don't think enough people have realized that very point... SKKY Nov 2020 #24
George Soros will want his money back. lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #30
So does Hugo Chavez! (n/t) Moostache Nov 2020 #33
Poor Hugo needs to pay off the Devil StClone Nov 2020 #61
I think Dominion might have a good case for a slander lawsuit. oldsoftie Nov 2020 #37
While the result didn't change in Georgia,Biden still won questionseverything Nov 2020 #56
Their oath is to the Constitution... paleotn Nov 2020 #16
Could it begin with a tax revolt? jayschool2013 Nov 2020 #27
No taxation without representation. dawg Nov 2020 #29
I'm actually a fan of a "tax fairness" bill, I think Rs would jump on it. sir pball Nov 2020 #42
Brilliant! jayschool2013 Nov 2020 #46
Not a chance this will happen. bottomofthehill Nov 2020 #57
The redder the state the more it gives to the green states bottomofthehill Nov 2020 #58
NY, NJ, CT and MA are a piggy bank for the Republican states. bottomofthehill Nov 2020 #60
It's over... N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2020 #34
Crazy is right birdographer Nov 2020 #44
If Joe only had 270-280 EV, I'd be extremely concerned Algernon Moncrieff Nov 2020 #50
We got this........ ssgbryan Nov 2020 #51
Why don't they stage an intervention Ohiogal Nov 2020 #2
Every Republican should be embarrassed and ashamed Rorey Nov 2020 #4
And all this time, Putin must be scoffing up to asking for some air to breathe Lock him up. Nov 2020 #43
Congress could impeach him again William Seger Nov 2020 #8
Apparently Ohiogal Nov 2020 #11
"Silence gives consent"....... lastlib Nov 2020 #23
The House impeaches (and they did) but the Senate has to affirm it (and they didn't). Remind me... Hekate Nov 2020 #54
What's changed is that Trump is now a very sore loser William Seger Nov 2020 #62
Maybe it'll end like "Dallas" -- I'll wake up one morning, Buns_of_Fire Nov 2020 #3
Good grief justgamma Nov 2020 #19
I'm hoping it ends up like the ending of the 2nd Newhart series klook Nov 2020 #25
Works at the pentagon, but can't spell. cwydro Nov 2020 #5
Not so hard to imagine, is it? jaxexpat Nov 2020 #7
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Good point. cwydro Nov 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Nov 2020 #15
Exactly DesertRat Nov 2020 #17
I have to say soldierant Nov 2020 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Nov 2020 #6
Who is Michael Thomas? Wednesdays Nov 2020 #9
I believe he is a... SkyDaddy7 Nov 2020 #28
Wide receiver, Saints Zeus69 Nov 2020 #38
YES!!!! SkyDaddy7 Nov 2020 #66
There are probably several million people in this country PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #39
This may be he lillypaddle Nov 2020 #18
needless to say, I HOPE SO llashram Nov 2020 #20
It's a lovely thought, but why should I believe some random, anonymous person on the internet? scarletwoman Nov 2020 #21
This is for the transition, not the election IronLionZion Nov 2020 #22
Hope we are sharing teh same "nightmare" Cryptoad Nov 2020 #26
Not soon enough! liberalla Nov 2020 #31
QUIT WAITING FOR THE ADMINISTRATION gratuitous Nov 2020 #32
I'm sure Biden is getting all the help he needs from the people Trump has fired. marie999 Nov 2020 #36
The Joint Chiefs of Staff already said it..... Jon King Nov 2020 #35
Yes, Thank You! ScratchCat Nov 2020 #40
Could they just please VA_Jill Nov 2020 #47
I can't help but feeling comforted and reassured when I hear or read a piece like this. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #41
No Shit........ DENVERPOPS Nov 2020 #45
That figure - 70,000,000 - is frightening indeed. No question. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #64
well, that's great, but handmade34 Nov 2020 #48
Rt.. TY Michael Thomas! Cha Nov 2020 #49
now THAT is something we need to hear Skittles Nov 2020 #52
We're holding you to that, Michael Thomas my friend. calimary Nov 2020 #53
Say goodbye to your job Michael. LiberalLovinLug Nov 2020 #59
I Too Work At The Pentagon COL Mustard Nov 2020 #63
How exciting another anonymous bullshit tweet to his followers from a "hero" who hides Autumn Nov 2020 #65

Goodheart

(5,324 posts)
1. I'll ask this much: If trump prevails somehow at the Supreme Court 75% of this country will know
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 09:30 AM
Nov 2020

that the election was stolen, courtesy of a coup and illegitimate court appointments, and our democracy has ended. CIVIL WAR. On which side would the military fall?

oldsoftie

(12,536 posts)
12. I really dont see the SCOTUS backing him up with no real evidence.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 10:17 AM
Nov 2020

If the whole "rigged software" story WAS true, he'd have a point. But its not, so he doesnt.

I dont see him getting the 5 votes for whatever case they'd accept. And even if they DO take one, i dont see it overturning the election
Take the PA case; I could see them saying "The State court was outside its legal authority to change the election rules.(And i actually think the constitution agrees with this) But the votes cast under those rules were cast in good faith & should be accepted"

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
14. Georgia uses the Dominion software. There was no difference between machine and hand count audit.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 10:24 AM
Nov 2020

So the alleged nation-wide rigging is disproved.

SKKY

(11,807 posts)
24. I don't think enough people have realized that very point...
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 11:17 AM
Nov 2020

...Georgia's hand count should put a fork into anything they have really tried to allege because it's all based on the Dominion software.

StClone

(11,683 posts)
61. Poor Hugo needs to pay off the Devil
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:30 AM
Nov 2020

Apparently his soul wasn't enough. So yeah he wants his money back after all these years.

questionseverything

(9,654 posts)
56. While the result didn't change in Georgia,Biden still won
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 09:51 PM
Nov 2020

Trump did gain about a thousand votes

A couple different sets of numbers were omitted from the spreadsheets in a couple repub counties so trump gained votes

Really shows why handcounts are important

The part that cracks me up is,this is the first time in decades Georgia’s machines have any paper to count

Repubs were fine with the software even with no paper at all when they were winning

paleotn

(17,913 posts)
16. Their oath is to the Constitution...
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 10:28 AM
Nov 2020

and the likelihood of getting to that is extremely remote. But, if it were to occur, we probably would part ways. It would be messy, but no shooting war. Unlike 1861, we're too integrated economically and culturally for that. In my mind, it's more of a question of how to divide up the military's assets versus what side the Pentagon is on. And lots of "I'll give you the southwestern part of NY for the eastern half of PA. And on and on.

That's just a thought experiment. The likelihood of that and what might cause it are extremely remote. But it is Vladimir Putin's dream scenario. The only way he gets his gas station masquerading as a country back on top.

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
27. Could it begin with a tax revolt?
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 11:23 AM
Nov 2020

What might happen if deep blue states refused to fund the federal government if it were hijacked by Trump?

sir pball

(4,742 posts)
42. I'm actually a fan of a "tax fairness" bill, I think Rs would jump on it.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 02:44 PM
Nov 2020

Pass a bill that explicitly says a State cannot receive more in Federal aid than it pays in Federal taxes. Call it the "Maker-Taker Fairness Act" or the "Balanced Tax Distribution Act" or somesuch malarkey that panders to the Right's idea that the blue states, with their welfare queens and food-stamp scammers, are the "taker" states, I really suspect they'd jump on it like flies on shit.

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
57. Not a chance this will happen.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 11:28 PM
Nov 2020

Many of the blue states are donor states and many of the red states are the getting states. The senate will NEVER go for it. Senator Moynihan used to publish a report, I think it was called the Fisk report annually showing how much New York “donated” while being attacked by people like Newt for being a welfare state.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,722 posts)
34. It's over...
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 12:09 PM
Nov 2020

There’s going to be plenty of pissed off people just as we were in 2016. Admittedly the republican side has more crazies that bear watching.
There will be a transfer of power in January. Roberts has already said he does not want to legislate an election.

birdographer

(1,328 posts)
44. Crazy is right
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 02:46 PM
Nov 2020

We were pissed off, but mostly sad, depressed, disappointed, and gobsmacked that a reality TV host was elected president. These clowns? Did you see the Jordan Klepper video from the MAGA march? Those people ain't right in the head, as they say here in the south. I'm reading The Cult of Trump, and that's what they are. Crazed.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
50. If Joe only had 270-280 EV, I'd be extremely concerned
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 05:41 PM
Nov 2020

However, at this point, Trump would have to prevail in multiple cases. It just doesn't seem likely, given the degrees to which his attorneys have had their asses handed to them so far. And this isn't Florida in 2000 with a few votes hanging in the balance. Kerry came closer to beating Bush in 2004 and saw it was a lost cause at this point.

 

ssgbryan

(23 posts)
51. We got this........
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:48 PM
Nov 2020

Our oath is to the constitution, not the president.

On a related note.

The DoD has been slow-rolling Fat Nixon since 2017.

Remember those parades he wanted?

If DoD wanted them to happen, they would have. We have enough troops nearby (Transportation School at Ft Lee, for instance).

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
4. Every Republican should be embarrassed and ashamed
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 09:38 AM
Nov 2020

They're allowing an obviously unfit man-baby to throw a long ass hissy fit at the expense of the security of our country and its citizens.

Lock him up.

(6,928 posts)
43. And all this time, Putin must be scoffing up to asking for some air to breathe
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 02:45 PM
Nov 2020
That's what he paid for, init?

And a quarter-a-million dead (and counting) for a bonu$!

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
8. Congress could impeach him again
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 09:56 AM
Nov 2020

He could be out in a matter of days if congressional Rs had a spine and took their oath of office seriously.

Ohiogal

(31,998 posts)
11. Apparently
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 09:59 AM
Nov 2020

Since none of them stand up and speak out, that means they all endorse his outrageous and dangerous behavior, right?

Hekate

(90,683 posts)
54. The House impeaches (and they did) but the Senate has to affirm it (and they didn't). Remind me...
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 09:20 PM
Nov 2020

...has anything changed in the Senate since then?


William Seger

(10,778 posts)
62. What's changed is that Trump is now a very sore loser
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 02:32 AM
Nov 2020

I think it's possible that fact could cause a few R senators to recalculate the value of continuing to support Trump's dangerous behavior, whether out of concern for the country or their own political future. I expect a power struggle in a post-Trump GOP.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
3. Maybe it'll end like "Dallas" -- I'll wake up one morning,
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 09:38 AM
Nov 2020

stagger into the kitchen, and there will stand Bobby Ewing, making coffee and saying "Good morning. Did you sleep well?"

And I'll say "Not really. How the hell did you get in here?"

justgamma

(3,665 posts)
19. Good grief
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 10:38 AM
Nov 2020

When you said "end like Dallas". My mind did not go to the TV show, but to JFK. I fear that is exactly what the Cons rhetoric is aiming for.

klook

(12,155 posts)
25. I'm hoping it ends up like the ending of the 2nd Newhart series
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 11:18 AM
Nov 2020

and I wake up in bed with Suzanne Pleshette.

Response to cwydro (Reply #5)

Response to cwydro (Reply #13)

soldierant

(6,868 posts)
55. I have to say
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 09:29 PM
Nov 2020

I am usually the spelling police, but until you pointed it out, I missed it. It could be an uncaught typo (with double letters that's easy to do.)

Response to kpete (Original post)

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
28. I believe he is a...
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 11:28 AM
Nov 2020

Running Back in the NFL? ...Or he was. Did not know he worked in the Pentagon.

...Thats about as much credibility I put in those "QAnon" type Tweets whether coming from the Right Left or Center.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,857 posts)
39. There are probably several million people in this country
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 01:48 PM
Nov 2020

with the name "Michael Thomas".

A lot of first and last name combinations are far more common than you'd know.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
20. needless to say, I HOPE SO
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 10:41 AM
Nov 2020

Last edited Fri Nov 20, 2020, 11:47 AM - Edit history (1)

yet I have awakened every day with dread in my heart because the orange menace still is able to wield power. On Nov. 3rd 2016 I, like many here and nationwide, woke with my heart in the right place. I went to bed just knowing HRC had this. Turned on my computer and my heart dropped 40,000 feet. WTF? WTH? My pets scrambling everywhere. Then the reality, we had screwed the pooch this time.

And with that being set in stone and borne out daily for the last 3 plus years, I am the opposite these days on awakening. I dread turning on my computer. Because I fear a coup will have been somehow been attained.

I don't use Twitter or Facebook, so I hope this tweet is true.

Good luck fellow patriots and com padres.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
21. It's a lovely thought, but why should I believe some random, anonymous person on the internet?
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 10:46 AM
Nov 2020

Especially since General Miley made a point of saying that the military would have no role to play in this election.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
22. This is for the transition, not the election
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 10:55 AM
Nov 2020

Since people were worried that Biden wasn't getting briefings and support to transition into office.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
32. QUIT WAITING FOR THE ADMINISTRATION
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 11:54 AM
Nov 2020

Go ahead and do whatever it takes for the transition. Let Trump try to stop you. Let him sue your agency heads. Get it into court, and force Trump to make his case for further delay. Proceed as if ascertainment has happened, because it should have happened by now. Let's find out if the administration has the belly to fight for its ruinous delay in court.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
35. The Joint Chiefs of Staff already said it.....
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 12:19 PM
Nov 2020

The unsung hero and not told enough story is how the Joint Chief's of Staff General said in his Veteran's Day address that the military takes a oath to the Constitution and not "tyrants or dictators". A clear message to Trump.

Look, the MSM is making money of the ratings for this shit show. Trump has zero percent chance of not leaving office, but thats a lame story. He has little financial backing, the military hates him, and he lost by a landslide.

This is nothing but a Trump money grabbing effort. He is collecting donations and will go off to hold rallies and tweet and collect as much money as he can from the rubes for his coming legal and financial issues. He can back some state level Repubs but has zero intention of getting destroyed again in 2024.

There are not going to be state legislatures flipping electors. Those people are locals, own businesses, have kids. They are not going to destroy their own states for Trump when odds are they would be overturned anyway. Trump is done. But is sure is good for CNN and MSNBC to keep the worry going.

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
40. Yes, Thank You!
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 02:14 PM
Nov 2020

I posted somewhere else that the only places there seems to be a "question" about who will be POTUS come 01/21/2021 is here at DU and on CNN/MSNBC. Anyone with a brain knows the moment an "attempted coup" occurs, the stock market crashes - not goes down - crashes in hours, and all hell breaking loose follows. This whole idea that they will just start a civil war, crash the economy and throw America away to keep a 73-year old, fake reality show can man in office is a joke.

VA_Jill

(9,971 posts)
47. Could they just please
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 03:35 PM
Nov 2020

appear in the Oval Office tomorrow and quietly usher the Tangerine Toddler OUT?

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
41. I can't help but feeling comforted and reassured when I hear or read a piece like this.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 02:38 PM
Nov 2020

Especially when they at least appear to have some knowledge and insight beyond that of even a very informed citizen.

When you hear average people say things like "I'd rather be ruled by a Russian than a Democrat!" there are some serious issues out in the wild.

DENVERPOPS

(8,820 posts)
45. No Shit........
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 03:00 PM
Nov 2020

That is the thing that scares me......70 million feeling that way !!!!!

Biden winning and taking office could be opening Pandora's box....

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
64. That figure - 70,000,000 - is frightening indeed. No question.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:36 PM
Nov 2020

But the only way to deal with it is to lance the boil. The support will peter out, once he can't do anything for them...as if he ever did. But they still hope he will, I think.

Biden taking office could unleash things we can't predict now, but it has to happen sometime, and the sooner, the better. It can't happen gradually, where power is slowly transferred from one to the other as they work together through transition.

Good lord. I could barely keep my fingers moving as they typed "work together." I had no idea they would try to take editorial control.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
48. well, that's great, but
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 04:54 PM
Nov 2020

this interim is causing great harm to our Country now! the thousands of people who are still being told that the election was a fraud will not settle into a new Administration very well... there is and will be unrest into the future

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
63. I Too Work At The Pentagon
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:32 AM
Nov 2020

It's a big building with a lot of people assigned to it. I don't know Michael Thomas, but in my agency, to my knowledge we haven't received any guidance on the transition. The potential shutdown on December 11 is much more front of mind for us.

I will say that I hope Mr. Thomas didn't tweet that message at work or on his work computer at the time shown. He could have other problems if that was the case. Tweet what you want on your own time, and on your own device but not on Uncle's time or device.

Autumn

(45,084 posts)
65. How exciting another anonymous bullshit tweet to his followers from a "hero" who hides
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:45 PM
Nov 2020

behind a twitter account. I've heard this shit before.

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