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https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/texas-trump-supporters-say-theyre-ready-to-take-up-arms-the-minute-the-president-gives-the-order/Some supporters of President Donald Trump in Texas say theyre willing to take up arms against the American government the minute that Trump gives them the order.
In an interview with Reuters, Texas-based chiropractor Brett Fryar says he has joined a militia group called the South Plains Patriots who are conducting firearms training sessions in case they need to stage an armed revolt against the American government.
More at link. I sure hope FBI is watching them!
Is this not conspiracy to commit sedition?
lark
(23,091 posts)Fire them from their day jobs and put their lilly white asses in jail.
North Shore Chicago
(3,312 posts)Here is what you'll do. Stand in a large circle over here, raise guns, take good aim and KA-POW!
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)dware
(12,363 posts)it would fall to either local LE or the Feds, like the FBI, ATF, USMS, etc.
There is no way that the military, nor should they, gets involved in domestic LE duties.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)dware
(12,363 posts)by the Posse Comitatus Act, which expressly forbids the use of the military from performing domestic LE in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
The various Fed agencies and local LE's are more than capable of handling these domestic terrorists, especially the FBI's HRT.
doc03
(35,325 posts)op holding a bible?
that was LE using tear gas, illegally, on peaceful protesters.
You may be mistaking the military involved because Gen. Miley was with Pissolini, and he later apologized for being there when it happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_photo_op_at_St._John%27s_Church
Here's a great timeline on what actually happened.
Timeline
5:05 p.m.: A convoy of nine trucks carrying uniformed National Guard troops enters the White House complex.[54]
6:04 p.m.: White House communications office notifies reporters about a "6:15 news briefing in the Rose Garden".[55]
6:08 p.m.: Law enforcement and military personnel begin massing before protesters at the north side of Lafayette Park. They include members of the Uniformed Secret Service, D.C. National Guard, and Park Police.[56]
6:08 p.m.: Attorney General William Barr is seen in Lafayette Park reviewing protesters and law enforcement.[55]
6:15 p.m.: General Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, appears in the park behind the police barricade.[56]
6:16 p.m.: Some security personnel kneel to put on gas masks. This is misinterpreted by some protesters as a sign of solidarity; they start cheering. A DC police channel announces that "CS gas", a type of tear gas, may soon be deployed.[56]
6:17 p.m.: Secret Service advance on protesters at the edge of the square at H Street and Madison Place at the northeast corner of the park.[8] After briefly occupying the intersection, they fall back.
6:21 p.m.: A person on a law enforcement communications channel says, "John, can you just confirm when you have all the grenadiers and shields with you."[56]
6:22 p.m.: Barr and Milley leave Lafayette Square. U.S. Park Police make the first of what officials later said were three announcements directing protesters to leave. The announcement is largely unintelligible even to protesters at the front of the crowd.[56]
6:26 p.m.: D.C. Police radio announces that police action is about to take place and that D.C. Police are to hold their positions on 16th Street.[56]
6:28 p.m.: Park Police notify Arlington County Police via radio that "level one's been activated", referring to a policing tactic to quell violent unrest by charging crowds to disperse them without making physical contact.[56] Police and National Guard military police, wearing gas masks and riot gear advance to the barricade on the North side of Lafayette Park.[57] At least one protester throws water bottles and is reprimanded by another protester. The Secret Service and Park Police begin to push protesters at the northeast corner of the park up Vermont Avenue as Park Police mounted on horses appear behind them.[56]
6:32 p.m.: Arlington Police radio says, "Moving forward to the intersection, forward to the intersection. Go, go, go," in reference to the largest group of protesters on H Street.[56] The protesters retreat, evacuating H Street between 16th Street NW and Vermont Ave in front of the advancing security forces. Police with riot shields enter the patio of St. John's Episcopal Church and physically push out a group of clergy and volunteers,[58][59][60] leaving the police in control of the front of St John's Church.[56]
6:34 p.m.: Arlington Police radio says, "We're gonna take 16th Street on this next surge."[56]
6:35 p.m.: Park police on H Street rush the protesters at the intersection of H Street and 16th Street. A chemical grenade is rolled at the feet of protesters.[56]
6:36 p.m.: Park police push protesters west on H Street past 16th Street. Video records several members of the Park Police SWAT team and the Bureau of Prisons Special Operations Response Team firing pepper balls at the fleeing crowd. The Washington Post reported that a member of the Park Police SWAT team threw a stingball grenade containing rubber pellets into the crowd.[56]
6:39 p.m.: A Park Police SWAT officer crouches down to roll a chemical grenade into the crowd.[56]
6:42 p.m.: Arlington Police radio says, "We are going all the way to I Street. Copy, I Street." A line of mounted Park Police officers moves forward to disperse the crowd.[56]
6:43 p.m.: Trump begins speaking in the White House Rose Garden.[55][8][56]
About 6:45 p.m.: Protesters are forced south along 17th Street, including by the use of at least two chemical or smoke grenades.[56] Spent canisters containing OC and CS gas were later recovered.[61]
6:50 p.m.: Trump concludes his speech, saying, "Thank you very much, and now I am going to pay my respects to a very, very special place."
7:00 p.m.: The curfew previously announced by D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser goes into effect.[53][62]
7:01 p.m.: The president begins walking with a group of White House officials and a security detail from the White House complex to St. John's Church.[55][63][64]
7:06 p.m.: Trump arrives at St. John's Church, where he spends several minutes posing for photographs on the church grounds, first alone and then with his entourage.[55]
7:11 p.m.: Trump and his entourage leave the church grounds.[55]
7:18 p.m.: Trump and his entourage arrive back at the White House.[55]
Following the dispersal of protesters, construction begins on new eight-foot (2.4 m) black fence around Lafayette Park and along 17th Street at Pennsylvania Avenue restricting public access.[65][66]
10:00 p.m.: Helicopters disperse crowds that had reformed in violation of the curfew
BannonsLiver
(16,369 posts)National Guard is military.
dware
(12,363 posts)and that was a looooong time ago.
The bottom line that the US Military will not be performing LE duties inside the US, unless requested by the state gov. or state LE loses control of the situation and are requested.
The various local, state and Fed agencies are quite capable of handling these domestic terrorists without US troops and the military will resist such a request if civilian LE have the situation in hand.
dware
(12,363 posts)these domestic terrorists are just plain fucking stupid, you don't telegraph your plans for an attack ahead of time, and I'm quite sure the FBI are closely watching these traitors and are ready to pounce at the first sign of actually carrying out these terrorist actions.
dubyadiprecession
(5,706 posts)Those spineless weasels, dont have the balls to do anything but mouth off their stupid shit!!
Fuck them, they will sit this out and we already know it!!
C_U_L8R
(44,997 posts)Who cares what happens to them now. They used to be part of us all but they thought they could control and take what's not theirs. They put themselves on the outside against our country and that's where they'll stay. Lost.
magicarpet
(14,144 posts).... this a viable option in their bag of tricks to hand them a win for this election.
Fascism unleashed and weaponized to give trDumpie his second term in the Oval Office.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)I preferred the secession threats much better.
RAB910
(3,497 posts)these vile disgusting pathetic creatures sicken me
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PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)Sinistrous
(4,249 posts)QED
(2,747 posts)But definitely not militia.
keithbvadu2
(36,770 posts)Who are the militia/terrorists going to kill?
Local police?
State police?
Federal marshals?
Secret Service?
Our military members?
Ordinary fed/state gov't workers?
Congressfolk and their staff?
State/local politicians?
Cliven Bundy's sniper sighting in on LEO badges is a good indicator.
keithbvadu2
(36,770 posts)Trump's Militia/terrorist folks have no problems with masks.
They are proud to look tough like ISIS with their big guns.
struggle4progress
(118,275 posts)flotsam
(3,268 posts)they should be attacked in such a way that they never get a chance to fire at a human being. I'm thinking drones for surveillance and if needed missile attacks (think "Hellfire" . Not much fun to revolt when there's no one to shoot at and your fellow "patriots" are getting exploded by munitions fired from unmanned aircraft you can't even see.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)Seems these militias would be fighting for the government that never was.
AKA sedition.
Paladin
(28,252 posts)Once a genuinely terrifying authoritarian government was in place, there didn't to seem much in the way of 2nd Amendment cheerleading against it.
Not that I'm one bit surprised.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)dalton99a
(81,450 posts)Paladin
(28,252 posts)erpowers
(9,350 posts)One minute after the order they will be crying. I am convinced that many of these people claiming they are ready to take up arms against the government are just making noise. I think most of these people are hoping that Trump does not actually ask them to take up arms.