Why is it the responsibility of black people yo make society comfortable with them?

[onecaliberal]

So ridiculous and upside down.

I don’t know how to live next to these people.

[H2O Man]

1. Recommended.

I get annoyed by republicans saying "the blacks" support the Democratic Party. Black people are as much -- at very least -- of the party as anyone, thus explaining why they vote as they do.

[onecaliberal]

4. I would go as far as to say black people are the leaders of the party.

If not for them to rescue the rest of us we would be in dire straights. Much worse than we are now.

[H2O Man]

10. Definitely.

I agree 100%.

[Faux pas]

2. Kickin'

[Hortensis]

3. Aren't black people "society" too? These kinds of posts always seem

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to deny that PoC are part of society, real people, victims of America instead of a part of the America that does all these "bad things," victims of Democrats instead of Democrats, or even ordinarily human with standard human characteristics that only white people have. Two-dimensional, not-real victims of white people their role in these posts. As 13.3% of the population, of course many find themselves needing to fit into social situations that aren't all-black. Gee, how special for them; no one else feels a need to fit in when joining a new group. But not all of them and not all the time.

When a single black man moved in across the road, WE felt an obligation to catch him when he was home and hike down to welcome him. But that's because we lived there and he was new to the road. Not because we were black and he was white.

This post seems to assume HE felt an obligation to come meet US. Well, if so, he overcame it. Our house is out of sight on the hill, and that may have had something to do with it, and we're a generation older. And his next-door neighbors were renters who were never home. He was pleasant and nice enough, and his kids visiting on weekends were the same plus cute as puppies. He always smiled and waved but never came out to talk or ask us to visit, and one day, after a year or so, he moved without waving us down to tell us he was going. A note left in our mailbox would not have been inappropriate.

So I really doubt he felt much, if any, of that supposed black-burden responsibility. I like to think he felt himself an equal and free man in all respects, not oppressed by our whiteness and captive of some inequality, victimhood syndrome.

He always acted like it.

And considering all, we were sorry to find he was gone, but it certainly didn't occur to us to blame him for not feeling a special responsibility to develop the relationship. It wasn't like he was a new woman hire in a male office, after all, or a secular soul who's joined a volunteer group full of Presbyterians, or a new black cook in a Chinese restaurant. This is the first time I wonder if maybe I should admire him for it, but somehow that seems like an insult to him.

[onecaliberal]

8. You missed it by a mile...

[Hortensis]

15. From my point of view you don't get it.

Not at all and especially, why on earth at this time?!

Biden is our new president-elect. Harris is our VP-elect. Victory, except that 2000 people died in the last 24 hours alone, and another 2000 are dying now. Trump is still trying to destroy our democracy; he won't succeed, but not because the people with that job are too busy whining about their own victimization to make sure of it.

You could, I suppose, attend a Harris event and ask HER to explain, for you, her special burden to fit in to an educated 68-year-old white woman who might have had to count herself lucky any time in the past 6 years if she could have snagged a job as a Walmart greeter? I guarantee you she would not have grabbed the chance to complain about her oppression and my privilege. She would have moved on quickly to what her incoming administration is focused on in this time of great national emergency. And, of course, beyond that to the thrilling job of "building back better."

[abqtommy]

13. Thanks for your input. I find that I'm seldom disappointed when I treat people in a friendly,

respectful way. Regardless of ethnic, gender or age, most people appreciate that. I sure do. I think you're
spot on!

[Hortensis]

14. You too. The timing got me of this victimization theme

is what got me.

It's especially insulting at this particular time to all the AA, and other PoC, who acted as full-fledged American voters taking care of themselves -- and the rest of America. Their role was anything but victim.

Of course, behind this constant recurring victimization theme are bad-troublemakers trying to use it to divide. Apparently we're all feeling too happy and relieved at winning, and that can't be allowed to continue.

[Caliman73]

5. Because White supremacy makes it so.

There are a great deal of interesting discussions about Whiteness that have been happening for a while. I recently saw a TED talk by a journalist (White guy) about the issue which was pretty good.

White is not considered a color, it just is. It is the "default" so when people say, the "norms" they are talking about White people's (white men specifically) experiences. When your experiences are the "default" or norms, then you start to expect people to adjust to how you view reality.

Like that old white woman in the video this week, yelling at her Black neighbor about "acting Black" in a White neighborhood. What the hell does that even mean? What the hell is "act White?"

[Biophilic]

6. Because it is always the role of servants to make sure the people they are serving

are comfortable. That has always been a given. Truth is sometimes more than uncomfortable. Sometimes I want to just go outside and scream, "This isn't right!!!"

[onecaliberal]

9. It is Wrong, terribly wrong.

[Biophilic]

12. Yes, it is wrong, terribly wrong, but it still is "expected" by those who think they are above

I hate when I see it, especially in myself. But to deny it is there is to allow it to continue and that is even more wrong. I refuse to support it's continuation. These beliefs must be confronted and outed. They must be acknowledged if we are ever going to go beyond them.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

7. Because we live in a white supremacy.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

11. Just as women are supposed to accommodate men's wants and needs.

Women are supposed to ignore their own needs. I constantly read about women who are afraid there is something wrong with them calling out blatantly unacceptable behavior from men. The women are right and need to get away from these angry men.

The BLM movement needs to acknowledge and deal with male violence against women by black men (George Floyd and others) as well as violence against women by white men (Derek Chauvin is a wife beater). Black men will blame black women for all their problems.

Sexism and racism. Rich white men can have tantrums and yell and scream at people at work or stores, and get away with it. Poor white men identify with rich men and scream at people to claim the same male privilege as rich men.