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***BREAKING*** MI Republican Senate Leader Says He Won't Be A Party To Trump's Hillbilly Coup (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2020 OP
Let's hope so. BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #1
So, did they "ask him to do them a favor, though"? Turn about is fair play, trumpeebaby! BComplex Nov 2020 #37
Sounds like that may have been their intent BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #38
They asked Trump for COVID money at the meeting. coti Nov 2020 #2
Covid? stillcool Nov 2020 #4
Only money that can come "sailing in" would have to be authorized by Congress BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #5
They sent a letter to Congress as well. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #11
And unfortunately the Senate is the hold-up BumRushDaShow Nov 2020 #17
Won't come to us if it goes to the legislature. Srkdqltr Nov 2020 #6
Just wondering how he managed to survive Rump's insane tirade? Wednesdays Nov 2020 #3
Scornful guffaws reduce empty bullies to puddles. RobertDevereaux Nov 2020 #22
This Coup? Arne Nov 2020 #7
I see what you did there malaise Nov 2020 #16
Maybe they've got a double-nought spy working for them! (nt) klook Nov 2020 #26
Good! Trailrider1951 Nov 2020 #8
Rt.. TY! Cha Nov 2020 #9
That statement does not affirm that. drray23 Nov 2020 #10
They literally cannot investigate until it's certed obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #13
not directly but they obviously can pressure their fellow gopers drray23 Nov 2020 #14
Then the matter goes to court which would most likely order the Board to certify. Kaleva Nov 2020 #33
They have done the checks...and all counties are certified. So on Monday I expect the Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #15
They have no role in the certification, radius777 Nov 2020 #18
I think people in general - not just Democrats - are getting tired of the corruption. kurtcagle Nov 2020 #12
This birdographer Nov 2020 #34
Trump invited them to the White House to ask him for Covid money? world wide wally Nov 2020 #19
No -- They Flat-Out Blew Him Off And Changed The Subject To COVID Relief nt smb Nov 2020 #27
Double crossed! I love it! lindysalsagal Nov 2020 #20
I like one comment from a tweeter kansasobama Nov 2020 #21
"Yet" QED Nov 2020 #23
Not seeing the actual quote - did he use the phrase "hillbilly coup"? nt Kashkakat v.2.0 Nov 2020 #24
Maybe they asked il douche to pay his outstanding campaign tab??? ResistantAmerican17 Nov 2020 #25
Let's hope he means it.... marmar Nov 2020 #28
Legislators who promise to follow the law? Are you sure they're Republicans? tclambert Nov 2020 #29
Wanna bet he promised he'd pardon them louis-t Nov 2020 #30
These two Republicans CRK7376 Nov 2020 #31
anyone else hoping he had really said "hillbilly coup"? Skittles Nov 2020 #32
Yes, me. LOL! peggysue2 Nov 2020 #35
how is it a hillbilly coup? KayF Nov 2020 #36
No. kcr Nov 2020 #42
But Trump promises proof of massive election fraud!! Happy Hoosier Nov 2020 #39
Mi Lawmakers did some socializing over drinks & spent the night at Trump Tower according to CNN shutterbug-gal Nov 2020 #40
Wow! Trump makes this breaking news when this should be the norm... In It to Win It Nov 2020 #41

coti

(4,612 posts)
2. They asked Trump for COVID money at the meeting.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:19 PM
Nov 2020

I wonder what their plans are for any large piles of cash that come sailing into Michigan.

BumRushDaShow

(128,712 posts)
5. Only money that can come "sailing in" would have to be authorized by Congress
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:22 PM
Nov 2020

or it would be considered an authorized procurement.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
10. That statement does not affirm that.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:28 PM
Nov 2020

Its written in such a way that it could go either way. He goes on about generalities regarding the process and infer that there are doubts.

"Allegations of fraudulent behavior should be taken seriously, investigated and if proven prosecuted to the full extend of the law. "

This can be interpreted that they will delay the certification and launch bogus investigations instead of certifying within the deadline.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
14. not directly but they obviously can pressure their fellow gopers
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:35 PM
Nov 2020

who are on that board to vote against.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
15. They have done the checks...and all counties are certified. So on Monday I expect the
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:36 PM
Nov 2020

Michigan and Pennsylvania election will be certified. And with Georgia...the fat lady is singing loudly.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
18. They have no role in the certification,
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:40 PM
Nov 2020

and should GOP canvassers vote no (and create a 2-2 deadlock) courts will force the certification unless evidence of widespread fraud is provided (there is none). The Secretary of State (D-Jocelyn Benson) is the person who oversees the election and who has the most power.

The legislature only has a role, should in the unlikely event the results be unable to be certified, ie due to 'failed election' where the outcome cannot be trusted (due to widespread fraud or negligence) - all which would have to be proven in court.

kurtcagle

(1,602 posts)
12. I think people in general - not just Democrats - are getting tired of the corruption.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:34 PM
Nov 2020

The wind is definitely turning away from Trump at this point. The courts, even with Trump judges, are increasingly refusing to hear his cases, let alone judge them. You're seeing more GOP state officials refusing to play the game, even in the face of death threats. In Michigan, I think the kidnapping attempt on Whitmer shook a lot of people and opened eyes about what kind of person Trump really is. PA and AZ are heading in the same direction.

I take this as a very hopeful sign. Politically we have different approaches towards solving problems, but there comes a point where you realize that you're dealing with a criminal whose only interest is his own. At some point very soon, Trump's going to break.

birdographer

(1,321 posts)
34. This
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 10:09 PM
Nov 2020

This is where I am. People are getting tired of his tantrums, his pouting, his childish refusal to accept truth. It has worked for him his whole life, make a lot of noise and wear people out and get his way, but it's not working this time. After 4 years of his nonsense, everyone has some serious Trump Fatigue and we want him out. Everyone is tired of him.

kansasobama

(609 posts)
21. I like one comment from a tweeter
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:58 PM
Nov 2020

..And Then Trump said about the COVID money- "I want a favor though..."

Too suspicious. He decided to fly out there to ask for COVID money? Really? That is not how it works. Legislature does not ask President. President should not be dealing with legislatures. We will see on Monday.

CRK7376

(2,199 posts)
31. These two Republicans
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 09:53 PM
Nov 2020

actually have spines. Thank you gentlemen for doing your job with honor and integrity.

KayF

(1,345 posts)
36. how is it a hillbilly coup?
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:47 AM
Nov 2020

the people doing it are lawyers. Trump is from Queens. Giuliani is from Brooklyn.

Does Hillbilly mean not Manhattan?

kcr

(15,315 posts)
42. No.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 06:01 PM
Nov 2020

Those men may be from those areas, but that's not where they get the bulk of their support.

shutterbug-gal

(4 posts)
40. Mi Lawmakers did some socializing over drinks & spent the night at Trump Tower according to CNN
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 04:38 PM
Nov 2020

Michigan GOP House Speaker Chatfield enjoys drinks at Trump Hotel 

Public skepticism that Michigan's Republican legislative leaders focused on COVID-19 assistance when they met with President Donald Trump was amplified Saturday as state House Speaker Lee Chatfield was seen socializing at the Trump Hotel in Washington and the president posted tweets that implied the election was also a topic of discussion. 

Chatfield and Michigan Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey met with Trump Friday afternoon at the White House. After the meeting, the pair issued a statement that said, the meeting focused on COVID-19 assistance and that "we have not yet been made aware of any information that would change the outcome of the election in Michigan."

But critics of the meeting were already dubious that the president did not try to persuade the lawmakers in his ongoing efforts to subvert the election results before photographs surfaced of Chatfield drinking and sitting, unmasked, with others at the Trump International Hotel. Their concerns were amplified when the lawmakers did not elaborate on what, if anything, the president asked about Michigan election results

Trump hopes the state's Republican-controlled state legislature will flip Michigan's 16 Electoral Colleges vote to him even though President-elect Joe Biden earned approximately 154,000 more votes in the state than Trump. 
Lauren Windsor

@lawindsor

I guess MI House Speaker @LeeChatfield + @RepJimLillyMI were in a celebratory mood last night, drinking Dom Perignon at the Trump Hotel til midnight
9:31 AM · Nov 21, 2020

9.9K people are Tweeting about this
Trump tweeted twice Saturday, responding to both lawmakers with more unfounded allegations of fraud and misconduct in Michigan. 
"We will show massive and unprecedented fraud!" Trump tweeted in response to Shirkey tweeting out his statement. 
In response to a Chatfield tweet, Trump tweeted, "Massive voter fraud will be shown!"
– Dave BoucherClara Hendrickson, Detroit Free Press

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