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mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 09:47 PM Nov 2020

Former SOD William Cohen (R) just shamed all the silent GOP senators like no other Repub has done

He was on CNN a few minutes ago, and he went up one side of those cowards and down the other for not coming out to publicly recognize Joe Biden as the winner of the election. Among many other things, he said Trump is defying the 10th Amendment to the Constitution at this very moment, and how all those republican senators who love to quote the Constitution all the time are saying nothing when Trump is defying it right now. He also used a great WWII analogy how we had our soldiers risking their lives and limbs in a war against fascism to preserve our democracy, and here we have all these GOP senators who are scared to death.....not because they might lose their life or one of their limbs in a war but because they are petrified that Trump or some lunatic might say bad things about them or that they might risk their re-election. He was awesome.

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Former SOD William Cohen (R) just shamed all the silent GOP senators like no other Repub has done (Original Post) mtnsnake Nov 2020 OP
K&RECOMMEND. sheshe2 Nov 2020 #1
**** HERE IS THE CLIP **** IcyPeas Nov 2020 #32
I agree they should stop covering the buffoon. cwydro Nov 2020 #40
Rec. Thank you for the clip. MerryBlooms Nov 2020 #41
Thank you, 😊 sheshe2 Nov 2020 #43
Thanks for posting the link, IcyPeas. Well worth the listen. nt crickets Nov 2020 #49
I saw that. LisaM Nov 2020 #50
Awesome and inspiring! colorado_ufo Nov 2020 #56
Wow! StarryNite Nov 2020 #2
Do they watch cilla4progress Nov 2020 #18
10th Amendment elleng Nov 2020 #3
Saw him malaise Nov 2020 #4
He didn't shame them. grumpyduck Nov 2020 #5
can't shame people with no positive morals nt msongs Nov 2020 #6
I agree they have no shame. TNNurse Nov 2020 #7
Doesn't mean shit until the NON-former Republicans do it. Silent3 Nov 2020 #8
His words were powerful enough that it just might mean shit to who it matters the most mtnsnake Nov 2020 #9
Accent on "former". Boomerproud Nov 2020 #33
Yup. People like Schmidt and Cohen and Kasich have Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2020 #25
Good. Good. NoRoadUntravelled Nov 2020 #10
I have met/spoken with Sec Cohen several times over the last 20 years and found him an honorable man TeamPooka Nov 2020 #11
That is cool! nt mtnsnake Nov 2020 #13
To this day he is the only Repub I ever voted for. (Though only once.) thenelm1 Nov 2020 #12
Very interesting post. Now I'm gonna have to find out what bulkie rolls are though! mtnsnake Nov 2020 #14
Fresh out of the oven they were devine. thenelm1 Nov 2020 #20
Me 2 :) Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2020 #26
Bulkie rolls--I had to look them up too. panader0 Nov 2020 #34
Thanks! Just started baking bread during pandemic Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2020 #38
No, even though my handle is panader0 (baker in Spanish) panader0 Nov 2020 #39
Nice find, but the accompanying photo looks like a typical sandwich roll found thenelm1 Nov 2020 #57
he won me over during the Iran-contra hearings Chili Nov 2020 #30
Perhaps Republicans aren't truly afraid of Trump, but actually love what he is doing. Lonestarblue Nov 2020 #15
Bleak forecast. But you're right, trump's conflicts of int. and other corruption are in plain view JudyM Nov 2020 #16
You put your True Blue American Nov 2020 #54
He was Bill Clinton's videohead5 Nov 2020 #17
Stand up guy. oasis Nov 2020 #19
the moron hasn't been able to accept REALITY since his 'election'. he can't FAKE news his way out pansypoo53219 Nov 2020 #21
Former Senator Cohen was EXCELLENT... LovingA2andMI Nov 2020 #22
Took awhile to find out that in the situation SOD Rural_Progressive Nov 2020 #23
There's a certain honesty and major passion we are seeng with anti-trump-Republicans Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2020 #24
Yeah, "no shame" as some are saying But.. Cha Nov 2020 #27
"William Cohen Still Let the World Know What Sniveling Treasonous Cowards they are." mtnsnake Nov 2020 #36
Excellent summary! UTUSN Nov 2020 #28
Their precious careers. Fuck them. argyl Nov 2020 #29
**** HERE IS THE CLIP **** IcyPeas Nov 2020 #31
Thank you for posting that to this thread, IcyPeas! mtnsnake Nov 2020 #35
really good clip Piasladic Nov 2020 #45
What a GREAT patriot!... Illumination Nov 2020 #37
Danger here. zentrum Nov 2020 #42
They're are not afraid. It is all about hate for the left. Hotler Nov 2020 #44
Have the press stop covering the orange one. What a novel idea. Hotler Nov 2020 #46
Hopefully, he has emboldened more Rs to start talking this way. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #47
Perhaps many of these silent Republicans will be primaryed by people who ask the question IsItJustMe Nov 2020 #48
They don't make Republicans like they used to IronLionZion Nov 2020 #51
Expect Nothing from the KGOP. McConnell has them well trained. flying_wahini Nov 2020 #52
Jeez, that was beautiful. byronius Nov 2020 #53
Bill Cohen is an honorable man. Rebublican with a conscience and dedication to our country. Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #55

IcyPeas

(21,856 posts)
32. **** HERE IS THE CLIP ****
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 03:02 AM
Nov 2020

He also managed to say happy birthday to Biden.

He also said the media should stop covering Trump and only cover Biden after he is sworn in.


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elleng

(130,825 posts)
3. 10th Amendment
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 09:52 PM
Nov 2020

'The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.'

Silent3

(15,178 posts)
8. Doesn't mean shit until the NON-former Republicans do it.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 10:20 PM
Nov 2020

It's disgusting that merely wanting to cling to their offices, and not wanting to face a primary challenger (oh, boo, hoo!) is enough to by so much craven self-serving silence.

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
9. His words were powerful enough that it just might mean shit to who it matters the most
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 10:27 PM
Nov 2020

Hopefully it might anyway. This wasn't anything like what Romney and Sasse said. This was cutting right to the hearts of those cowards in the GOP.

TeamPooka

(24,216 posts)
11. I have met/spoken with Sec Cohen several times over the last 20 years and found him an honorable man
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 10:40 PM
Nov 2020

He's smart and quite funny too.

thenelm1

(852 posts)
12. To this day he is the only Repub I ever voted for. (Though only once.)
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 10:45 PM
Nov 2020

Admittedly it was years ago when he was a member of the House from Maine at the time I turned 18. His performance during the Watergate hearings was impressive, even to a political neophyte like me back then. (Plus he was a local guy. His family owned a popular bakery in Bangor, ME. Every family gathering included bulkie rolls from that bakery. They were to die for.)

He doesn't say much nowadays unfortunately, and though probably still a pubbie, his views were always what today would be considered as conservative/moderate Democratic. He was in Clinton's cabinet as Defense Secretary for some part of that admin's 8 years. Republicans of that sort have been long gone from public office (and discourse) for 20 plus years.

thenelm1

(852 posts)
20. Fresh out of the oven they were devine.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 11:58 PM
Nov 2020

It's been years and I'm not even sure that is what the actual name of them was, but it's what we always called them. I can taste them even now.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
38. Thanks! Just started baking bread during pandemic
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:50 AM
Nov 2020

but have only tried french bread; rolls.

I want to know more. So curious on what makes some so soft vs hard and crusty.

It says on your link that bullies are similar to Kaiser.

When I lived in Nola there was one company that made the bread for all the poboys. Used to watch them deliver everywhere. Perfectly crusty yet soft inside.

Do you bake bread?

panader0

(25,816 posts)
39. No, even though my handle is panader0 (baker in Spanish)
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 11:01 AM
Nov 2020

It was a nickname given to me by my Mexican fellow bricklayers, as my last name is Baker.

thenelm1

(852 posts)
57. Nice find, but the accompanying photo looks like a typical sandwich roll found
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 12:52 AM
Nov 2020

in every supermarket I've ever seen in my state. I did notice that the wiki site said it was a New England thing. Can't say as I've ever had the need to look for them elsewhere.

Most of that type of roll that I've seen from supermarket sources are blah. I did try to avoid adding the ethnic aspect, but it would not surprise me that if one could find a true Jewish family bakery one might find something similar to the bakery I remember from years ago. Maybe. The ones I remember were on a whole different level. (I think this might be it - http://www.brickovenbangorrye.com/ - the location looks about right and I seem to remember the "The Bangor Rye Bakery" name. No idea if the quality is still the same.)

Chili

(1,725 posts)
30. he won me over during the Iran-contra hearings
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 02:01 AM
Nov 2020

When he published one of his early books, I bought it and read it and liked him even more - learned a lot about how the House and Senate work. Used to work. His mentor when he was a rookie in the House was Barbara Jordan - he loved her dearly.

Lonestarblue

(9,959 posts)
15. Perhaps Republicans aren't truly afraid of Trump, but actually love what he is doing.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 11:25 PM
Nov 2020

He is weakening our democratic norms and guardrails to the point where breaking the law is just ignored, along with partisan misbehavior. A third of the people who voted for Trump believe the election was stolen—and they will hate Democrats even more. Republicans never seem to pay a price with their voters for their lies and cheating. The next election could be just as chaotic as this one with constant lawsuits and challenges, and the one after that as Republicans solidify their redistricting plans and retake the House through gerrymandering. Donald Trump has shown them the way to take the presidency, too, by simply contesting everything and calling on all those judges McConnell put on the federal courts to change election results. In a close election, they truly could get away with stealing the election, and Republicans will try it because they have no morals and no love for democracy. They want total control.

JudyM

(29,225 posts)
16. Bleak forecast. But you're right, trump's conflicts of int. and other corruption are in plain view
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 11:40 PM
Nov 2020

and may well get away with most of it. We need McConnell in jail.

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
54. You put your
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 05:16 PM
Nov 2020

Finger on the truth with that post. Everyone who stays silent is as craven as Trump is. Starting with McConnell and going right on down the line. They love what Trump is doing. This Country means nothing to them. Only unbridled power. So are the voters who keep electing them.

Anyone could watch Lindsey and see what a butt licking piece of slime he is. Yet the voted him back in.

pansypoo53219

(20,966 posts)
21. the moron hasn't been able to accept REALITY since his 'election'. he can't FAKE news his way out
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:02 AM
Nov 2020

this time.

FAKE PRESIDENT.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
22. Former Senator Cohen was EXCELLENT...
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:16 AM
Nov 2020

In his Shaming. The State's Rights Republicans are just as fake as their "Leaders' Hair". That being Dump's hair.

Senator Cohen was a true hero is calling out their SHAME!

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
24. There's a certain honesty and major passion we are seeng with anti-trump-Republicans
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:53 AM
Nov 2020

that seems so real to me. Kasich was like that the other night too. Miss that.

Cha

(297,029 posts)
27. Yeah, "no shame" as some are saying But..
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 01:02 AM
Nov 2020

William Cohen Still Let the World Know What Sniveling Treasonous Cowards they are.

Hopefully it Will Come Back to Haunt them someday.

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
36. "William Cohen Still Let the World Know What Sniveling Treasonous Cowards they are."
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:49 AM
Nov 2020

Ain't that the truth!! With the background William Cohen has, his words really do matter. Ya gotta love how he doesn't parse his words.

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
35. Thank you for posting that to this thread, IcyPeas!
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:44 AM
Nov 2020

The clip is worth watching in its entirety. One of the parts I liked the most that I forgot to mention in my post was toward the latter part of the clip where he said, come Jan 21 he wishes that the media would stop covering Trump and instead cover Joe Biden and the enormous challenge that he has. He went on to elaborate. Very cool man.

on edit: I didn't notice until just now that you posted it up above as well. Not enough coffee yet. Thanks again!

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
42. Danger here.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 11:29 AM
Nov 2020

When I hear a Republican conservative invoke state's rights a a good ole Republican principle, I hear voter suppression, school segregation and all the rest of their ugly record. It was used as dog whistle in the past.

Voting rights should be universal and Federal and sacrosanct across the country.

Hotler

(11,409 posts)
44. They're are not afraid. It is all about hate for the left.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 11:39 AM
Nov 2020

They support the orange one because he's their tool to hurt or own us. It is all about hurting and owning democrats and liberals.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,562 posts)
47. Hopefully, he has emboldened more Rs to start talking this way.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:21 PM
Nov 2020

How do we see the end of this very dangerous nonsense coming? Like a dam bursting? A slow walk gradually gathering fellow travelers along the way? The vast majority saying nothing at all, and just going about the business of working towards a new administration without acknowledging that they are doing that?

IsItJustMe

(7,012 posts)
48. Perhaps many of these silent Republicans will be primaryed by people who ask the question
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:35 PM
Nov 2020

Where the hell were you when our democracy was being flushed down the drain?

flying_wahini

(6,583 posts)
52. Expect Nothing from the KGOP. McConnell has them well trained.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 04:41 PM
Nov 2020

The only way the wall will break is if McConnell dropped dead or
McConnell unleashes them on Trump.

byronius

(7,392 posts)
53. Jeez, that was beautiful.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 05:01 PM
Nov 2020

I used to be able to talk to Republicans like they were Americans.

Not so much after 12/12/00.

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