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100 times as many Americans have died from COVID-19 than died on 9/11.
Donald J. Trump on February 26, 2020 ---And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, thats a pretty good job weve done.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)samplegirl
(11,462 posts)golfs!
OhioChick
(23,218 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)crickets
(25,952 posts)Solly Mack
(90,758 posts)His inaction, his mismanagement and misappropriation of resources, his token efforts that were self-aggrandizing showmanship over substance, his outright lies, and his intentional determination to undermine the actual science all lead to greater spread and more deaths.
Trump is a horrible human being who deserves to spend the rest of his miserable life in prison and forever looked upon with scorn and disdain.
samplegirl
(11,462 posts)this man is a menace to society! Hes needs bars!!!
Solly Mack
(90,758 posts)samplegirl
(11,462 posts)got inside me. Ill get by with a little help from my friends!
Expecting a new kitten in December hoping that helps me some.
Hope you guys are doing ok!
SammyWinstonJack
(44,129 posts)Brilliant!
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)gademocrat7
(10,644 posts)Who must be held accountable for his heinous crimes.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)This also has the effect of putting 9/11 in a truer perspective on a scale of calamities.
ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)We're far into record case numbers, but daily deaths were higher in April & early May.
The % of deaths per confirmed case is dramatically lower.
In April & May, for 5-6 weeks we averaged ~30,000 cases/day. But over that same timeframe (with a +5 day lag), daily deaths were ~2,000/day.
Over the past 5-6 weeks, we've gone from 60,000 to about 200,000 cases per day. But, the deaths per day is only around 1,050 using the same death lag.
There are 3 or 4 significant reasons for this depression in deaths per case.
I'm not suggesting any wonderful news, just that it's hardly a sure thing we'll be hitting 3,000 deaths per day.
Over a thousand a day is bad enough to keep reminding people how badly this was botched.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 21, 2020, 11:33 AM - Edit history (1)
What happened in April and May is not part of the current trend.
The new cases now are rising way out of control. They are doubling every 18 days. So we can expect deaths to double every 18 days too, soon (with more than 5 day lag).
We are already 2/3 of the way to breaking the April death rate record.
We are already half way to breaking 9/11 (1481 daily on 7 day trailing average). So, 18-21 days from now, three weeks, I expect there to be a daily 9/11.
It may take a week or two longer. Deaths are doubling about every 4 weeks, technically, on 7 day trailing average, but that is starting from a sort of baseline of a few months. They didn't really get started until about Nov 5, 15 days ago. In the last 3 days, the 7 day trailing average made a sharp move upwards.
It seems to me that the new case rate 7 day trailing took off around 6 weeks ago, and deaths took off about 2 weeks ago. That seems like a 4 week lag. So I think that even if the new case rate began dropping today, deaths will still increase at the current rate for 4 weeks. So I expect at least one doubling in the death rate from current levels. Hence a daily 9/11.
I'm confident, sadly, in that grim prediction because a simple extrapolation of current trends does not take into account limitations of the health system. As case loads double in hospitals, so do ICU loads leading to an extra burden of deaths as ICUs get overwhelmed. ICUs are already badly strained.
Unfortunately, I do not expect the new case rate to flatten for a few weeks at least. Red hatters aren't scared enough yet.
Further, the Thanksgiving Virus Giving may be an extra burden above the current trend.
First Bush (R) with 9/11.
Then tRump (TR) with daily 9/11.
What a Republicon legacy.
ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)Obviously, I hope I'm right in seeing your number as an overestimate. Not about me being right, but it means fewer people will die.
The reasons why deaths are growing at a softer slope than cases has much to do with more therapeutic knowledge (although with no magic bullet), the prior reduction in the most vulnerable, and masking reducing viral loading.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,955 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)It's why the death to case ratio continues to descend.
I'm not suggesting something in the next few weeks.
I'm saying it's already a contributing cause the the declining mortality rate.
If cases triple though, the ratio doesn't have a practical impact.
Too many extra dead people is already too many!
keithbvadu2
(36,655 posts)'Close to zero' is their baseline. The quarter million is the Trump/Pence personal death count.
Marcuse
(7,446 posts)AllyCat
(16,140 posts)But this earned him tens of millions of votes
rainin
(3,010 posts)No words. Half the country makes me physically ill.
spooky3
(34,405 posts)He wont leave office without filing frivolous lawsuits and preventing the Biden administration from getting the info needed.
Danascot
(4,690 posts)marble falls
(57,010 posts)marble falls
(57,010 posts)... really understanding that meaningless classic Trumpism. It's such pure confeve.
Chainfire
(17,467 posts)Trump is totally responsible for keeping the numbers of cases down
Trump is not responsible for cases rising
The number of sick and dead are grossly overinflated
It is no more than a cold
It is not the President's job to keep you safe from the virus.
Masks are a liberal political statement
The economy and the virus are independent of each other
Unemployment numbers are to be ignored, the economy is great
It is still mostly a hoax
They will not talk about Clorox or UV light(it was a joke, stupid)
Lockdowns are a socialist tactic to wreck the economy because us liberals hate freedom
Trump is directly responsible for the vaccine for the hoax virus
The issue is going to totally disappear after the election
ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)The worst is your second to last.
Taking credit for a vaccine against something he said, MULTIPLE TIMES, was no big deal.
The contradiction is lost on them.
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