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ancianita

(36,017 posts)
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 06:57 PM Nov 2020

One Defector-Proof Hangout for Trumpists Will Likely Be Parler

The Mercer Family might have abandoned Trump and Bannon, but they will maintain whatever fears, hates, conspiracies and twisted populism they paid for in Trump days, and smear Democrats as long as they get a return on their investments.

One being the two year-old Parler platform, where Trumpers, part but not all of the 22% of America (based on total Trump votes divided by total US population), are settling into a new hot box of mutual validation.

Parler is a "free speech" platform, and its surging popularity appears to be an intended consequence of Facebook and Twitter cracking down on hate speech, violent rhetoric and misinformation.
According to ABC News, the Parler app saw over 3.5 million active users last week and has nearly 8 million users total.
Hashtags that often trend on the platform include #freemarket, #voterfraud, and #Tucker (as in Carlson); the same ones that can often be found on President Trump's Twitter feed.
Posts — known on the platform as "Parleys" — from far-right pundits like Sean Hannity easily and frequently get over one million views. If a right-wing figure's tweet is flagged by Twitter, you can likely find it on Parler.

Parler was founded in 2018 by two computer programmers named John Matze and Jared Thomson, and is financially backed by Rebekah Mercer, whose father is Robert Mercer. Robert Mercer is the co-founder of Cambridge Analytica and a hedge fund manager. He's also a major funder of Breitbart. According to the Wall Street Journal, sources said Parler was "a Mercer family investment."

Recently, Rebekah Mercer emphasized that Parler is a platform for "free speech."

"John and I started Parler to provide a neutral platform for free speech, as our founders intended, and also to create a social media environment that would protect data privacy," Mercer said in a Parler post. "The ever-increasing tyranny and hubris of our tech overlords demands that someone lead the fight against data mining, and for the protection of free speech online. That someone is Parler, a beacon to all who value their liberty, free speech and personal privacy."

Parler has become a far-right echo chamber, giving people who are living in Trump's alternate reality a place to organize. And that's dangerous, as Ciarán O'Connor, an analyst at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, told VICE News.

"The risk in a mass migration to smaller, fringe platforms is that they do not enforce the same guidelines as older, more established platforms, meaning there is potential for not only echo chambers to form, but for extremist groups to make use of these spaces to organize offline activity or to promote more extreme material and beliefs than they might on larger platforms," O'Connor said.
https://www.salon.com/2020/11/20/inside-parler-the-social-media-platform-by-and-for-trump-supporters/

More: https://theconversation.com/parler-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-free-speech-twitter-alternative-142268

The Mercers expand where the Koch Bros. haven't gone and it's still not cool.



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One Defector-Proof Hangout for Trumpists Will Likely Be Parler (Original Post) ancianita Nov 2020 OP
Looks ripe for a visit by lefty activists... TygrBright Nov 2020 #1
Give it a shot ancianita Nov 2020 #3
They'll probably splinter into antagonistic sects there, too. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2020 #2
Of course, since flying rabbit Nov 2020 #9
I'm sure the FBI is pleased spinbaby Nov 2020 #4
Undoubtedly. But they know that without real names as part of TOS, they won't be so easily found. ancianita Nov 2020 #5
Parler collects your real name and more. sir pball Nov 2020 #10
Oh, good. Thank you. Not wanting to know much about it, I just assumed. ancianita Nov 2020 #11
It kind of makes me wonder if it IS a trap.. sir pball Nov 2020 #12
Maybe. ancianita Nov 2020 #13
Here's a look at how they look at political investment. Maybe Cruz or Rubio will be their next. ancianita Nov 2020 #14
Marginalized. Good. pat_k Nov 2020 #6
May it stay that way. ancianita Nov 2020 #7
I saw his speech, but I love reading your transcript much more. Thank you. ancianita Nov 2020 #8
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #15
Thanks. Yep, they and Chas Koch are at full tilt through ancianita Nov 2021 #16

TygrBright

(20,756 posts)
1. Looks ripe for a visit by lefty activists...
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 06:59 PM
Nov 2020

Lefty activists should sign up for the site in droves, use the hashtags, troll the crap outta the snowflakes in their refuge, and see how long "free speech" holds up.

interestedly,
Bright

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,831 posts)
2. They'll probably splinter into antagonistic sects there, too.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:00 PM
Nov 2020

People's Front of Judea vs Judean People's Front...

spinbaby

(15,088 posts)
4. I'm sure the FBI is pleased
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:26 PM
Nov 2020

Now they can track most of our domestic terrorists on one convenient site.

ancianita

(36,017 posts)
5. Undoubtedly. But they know that without real names as part of TOS, they won't be so easily found.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:39 PM
Nov 2020

That's what makes FB and Twitter so good for law enforcement, the ease of finding actual people mobilizing. Now they've got to tease out hate groups across many more like Gab, reddit, Voat, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_networking_services

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
10. Parler collects your real name and more.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:49 PM
Nov 2020

It's free to sign up, and you can do that with a pseudonym, but if you want to unlock direct messaging, from what I understand they want a copy of your driver's license and your SSN. And or course the idiots, who legitimately belive in tracking-nano-RFID-bots in vaccines, are handing their info over in droves.

ancianita

(36,017 posts)
11. Oh, good. Thank you. Not wanting to know much about it, I just assumed.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:53 PM
Nov 2020

Wow. Idiots, indeed! The FBI will REALLY love that additional ID requirement.

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
12. It kind of makes me wonder if it IS a trap..
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:56 PM
Nov 2020

Maybe the Mercers realized their monster is too out of control even for their wants and decided the lesser evil for them would be to funnel the real crazies into one place and let the FBI have at?

ancianita

(36,017 posts)
13. Maybe.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 09:32 PM
Nov 2020

I'd be the first to call the Mercers evil, but there's something way more fair about your point.
They could well be old school Republicans who don't want crazies to drag down the party.

But my hunch (which I'll do some reading on) is that their whole outlook on politics is crazy when they support corporate sellouts like those of the Republican Senate. Above their crazy politics, they themselves seem to want to recoup their original investment in the Trump campaign world and so will use his crazies for that. Then they can increase their support for someone just as 'free speech fascist' as they are in 2024.

They've got Senators lining up to impress for that cycle.



ancianita

(36,017 posts)
14. Here's a look at how they look at political investment. Maybe Cruz or Rubio will be their next.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 09:45 PM
Nov 2020
Another factor driving the Mercers off the national stage is that Trump was never their ideal candidate, despite the millions they spent helping him, sources told me. “They never really liked Trump,” the person close to the Mercers said.

During the 2016 Republican primary, the Mercers put all their cards on Ted Cruz. The source recalled that Robert invited Kellyanne Conway, who was then working for a pro-Cruz super PAC, to his Florida mansion and told her to “beat Trump!” What seemed to be most driving the Mercers was a hatred of Hillary Clinton. “Trump was just Bob’s play against Hillary,” the former Renaissance executive said. “Bob said she and her husband were murderers who would destroy the country. He thought she was an evil person and a socialist.”

Without the specter of a Clinton presidency to motivate them, the Mercers are returning to their pre-Trump private existence. Robert didn’t host a costume ball last year. But the family remains active outside of politics.


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/06/why-the-mercers-trumps-biggest-2016-backers-have-bailed-on-him

We really are looking at billionaire wars and which of them will win the next history and vision of America. That's why we need to look closely at donors until such time as we can get Citizens United rescinded.

ancianita

(36,017 posts)
7. May it stay that way.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:50 PM
Nov 2020

But yes, 8 million is a lot of trouble.

The 3 percenters are 9 million but only 1 percent of them have been militia, from what I can tell.

ancianita

(36,017 posts)
8. I saw his speech, but I love reading your transcript much more. Thank you.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:59 PM
Nov 2020

Last edited Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:54 PM - Edit history (1)

These words seemed too probable as I heard them before Nov 3.

Zuckerberg at Facebook, Sundar Pichai at Google, at its parent company Alphabet, Larry Page and Sergey Brin, Brin’s ex-sister-in-law, Susan Wojcicki at YouTube and Jack Dorsey at Twitter.

The Silicon Six – all billionaires, all Americans – who care more about boosting their share price than about protecting democracy. This is ideological imperialism – six unelected individuals in Silicon Valley imposing their vision on the rest of the world, unaccountable to any government and acting like they’re above the reach of law.
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