So will Joe be the 46th. president or the 47th?

[bluestarone]

I'm really not sure. What do you think?

[DonaldsRump]

1. On a whim, I'm gonna' say 47

Trump wants/needs a pardon and he will be too ashamed to go to Joe's inauguration. For those 2 reasons alone, I think Trump will resign and let Pence pardon him.

[bluestarone]

3. That's what i'm thinking as well!

[Ahpook]

15. May I ask a question? :)

The guy is a straight up asshole, and committed or committing obvious crimes, but doesn't he need to be found guilty of something before a pardon can happen?

Sadly, there is nothing to pardon him of.

I am asking honestly! Someone can be pardoned before an actual charge has been dropped?

[DonaldsRump]

17. Yes

A person can be pardoned for any federal crime. For example, in September 1974, Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon for any federal crimes he may have committed while he was Presidednt, regardless of whether he was charged or not.

[Ahpook]

18. Ohh ok

It's an across the board pardon for any federal crime? That's pretty powerful! Not sure I like that idea but that's how it is.

Thank you

[DemoTex]

2. I'd pencil in 46, for now.

But have the eraser ready!

[bluestarone]

4. LOL!

Yep keep eraser handy!

[Jeebo]

5. I've been thinking for a long time he might resign and let Pence be #46 for a week or two.

We'll find out.

-- Ron

[Stinky The Clown]

6. What's in that for Pence?

[HubertHeaver]

8. That is negotiable.

The deeper into January we get, the more valuable the position becomes.

[Stinky The Clown]

23. If Trump resigns and Pence assumes the Presidency and there is no pardon, Pence survives

If there is a pardon it is Pence's political suicide.

Again, what's in it for Pense?

[Jeebo]

25. He gets to be president for a week or two.

Simple.

I'm not saying it's what's going to happen, I'm just saying it's possible.

-- Ron

[Keth]

7. Okay

I think 46th. I also think Trump - good riddance - will not resign but will probably not show up at the inauguration. I mean, it will be about President Biden, not him. And he might be afraid the crowd might start chanting "Lock Him Up!"

[ShazzieB]

21. I agree about the inauguration.

I'll be astounded, gobsmacked, and flabbergasted if Trump shows for it. There's no way his narcissistic ego would allow that, and he wouldn't be able to stand being there, watching Biden get sworn jnto the job Trump thinks he's entitled to. His head would explode.

[JI7]

9. I think it will end up 47th .

[StClone]

10. I have heard Pence may have a say in this

Pence is considering a run for "Pope of the United States of Evangelicals Reformed (POUSER)" and letting off T-rump has to be weighed as to pros and cons. Becoming Prez for a moment and pardoning could help him with Trump's Cult or hurt him with reality-based Americans.

[beastie boy]

11. Ther is no need for pence to become 46th president to pardon trump.

25th amendment, section 3:

Section 3.

Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

pence can do it as an acting president, without ever becoming 46. Trump, being a scumbag himself and thus suspecting scumbaggery from everyone else, will probably feel safer if he didn't have to resign. Imagine if he resigns and pence, having become 46, decides to blackmail trump by withholding a pardon. Wouldn't that be a riot? I am sure this is the first thing that runs through trump's demented mind.

[bluestarone]

12. Lots of interesting maybe things that could happen huh?

We'll wait to see!

[beastie boy]

16. Oh yeah. And none of them have been tested with precedent

If you ask me, the whole 25th amendment is a bag of firecrackers ready to explode in one's face if one is not careful.

[Kablooie]

13. I'd bet on 47th

Of course first it could give him a get out of jail card
but also it will grab all the headlines which is even more important to him.

[bullimiami]

14. i'm putting my money on 47. not a sure bet but i think its smart money.

first. i dont think he will chance leaving office without a pardon.

second. a self-pardon is on pretty shaky ground. even with this court. because if they allow trump to do it then it becomes every following presidents right. including biden and including harris. (fingers crossed). besides it being antithetical to our countries fundamental raison d'etre.
he might try it if insaniacs like rudy convince him but i dont think even he is that gone yet.



good point about maybe pulling a 25th Am scam so that pence could be "acting president" and execute the pardon.
that might work around trumps ego because resignation will surely be a butt burn.

[TheBlackAdder]

19. Trump will hold out so Biden creates a bunch of 46 merch then do the pardon switcheroo.

[TlalocW]

27. I was suggesting that back in 2016

Obama, just to fuck with Trump, should have resigned, let Joe be president for one day, and then all of Trump's 45 merchandise wouldn't sell.

TlalocW

[PirateRo]

20. Only if you have a time machine...

Sadly, there are no mulligans for Agolf Twittler. Life and numbers move on. I wish you did have a time machine. We could go back and fix this.

[mtnsnake]

22. On paper Joe will be the 46th, but in reality he'll be the 45th.

Trump was never a president.

[StevieM]

26. Totally agreed.

James Comey won that election for the GOP. Trump was such a lousy candidate that he almost blew it for them.

[c-rational]

29. +1

[Imallin4Joe]

24. I'm with you..

Illegitimate Prez's like Trump and Bush have had me asking that for the past 20 years.

[dweller]

28. Just for grins

Let’s say BOTH !


✌🏻

[maveric]

30. Or the 48th. If T**** resigns.

And if Pence resigns.
Nancy would be 47.

[Thunderbeast]

32. May I remind you all that Biden will be the 45th or 46th

PERSON to serve as President!

Grover Cleveland certainly screwed up the math.