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Sun Nov 22, 2020, 12:06 AM Nov 2020

Proposal to Allow Non-Veteran Presidential Burials at Arlington Draws Pushback

A PROPOSED PENTAGON RULE CHANGE that would allow presidents and vice presidents who haven’t served in the military to be buried in Arlington National Cemetery has drawn blowback from some veterans and Democrats who see it as a bid to allow President Trump to eventually be buried there.

The comment period for the proposed rule change ended on Monday. Among the 1,800 comments are many from veterans saying that they didn’t believe presidents and vice presidents who didn’t serve in the military should be eligible, with many accusing the Pentagon of making the change to benefit Trump. “I strongly feel that interment or inurnment in Arlington National Cemetery should be limited to those who actually served in the military to maintain the respect for their sacrifice,” reads a typical comment.

A Defense Department official involved in the rule-making said the White House had had no involvement in the proposed rule, and said the presidential allowance was part of a monthslong debate that also resulted in the disqualification of reservists who didn’t serve in combat. A senior administration official also denied that the White House had played a role. The rule change came as a result of a land-use review of Arlington, which is rapidly running out of space for burials. Illinois Democratic Sen. Tammy Duckworth has a bill that would prevent non-veteran presidents from being buried at Arlington, but it hasn’t gained any traction in the Senate.

Two presidents are currently buried at Arlington: John F. Kennedy, a decorated World War II combat veteran, and William Howard Taft, who qualified because he served as secretary of war and chief justice of the Supreme Court.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/proposal-to-allow-non-veteran-presidential-burials-at-arlington-draws-pushback-11605868201 (subscription)

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Proposal to Allow Non-Veteran Presidential Burials at Arlington Draws Pushback (Original Post) question everything Nov 2020 OP
No! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #1
Not only no, but FUCK NO!!! Enterstageleft Nov 2020 #2
Aww hell no! soothsayer Nov 2020 #3
Absolutely not. No! onecaliberal Nov 2020 #4
The piss level would rise so high, you'd have caskets popping up out of the ground. NBachers Nov 2020 #5
I would never piss on Trump's grave. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 2020 #8
This is starting to sound like that TV commercial Orange Buffoon Nov 2020 #6
I have never referred to Trump as (that title) and never will. lpbk2713 Nov 2020 #7
Same here! pazzyanne Nov 2020 #11
Never in a million years!!!! ailsagirl Nov 2020 #9
No! Ananda62 Nov 2020 #10
Short answer... pazzyanne Nov 2020 #12
Apart from the repulsive idea of wnylib Nov 2020 #13
OK NO. dchill Nov 2020 #14
'Sacrifice' - Ironic how that word comes up with Trump and Arlington. keithbvadu2 Nov 2020 #15
In my opinion it should remain exclusive to military personal along with their spouses. cstanleytech Nov 2020 #16
If we can do it next Monday, It's good with me. nt Gore1FL Nov 2020 #17
LOL! n/t EndlessWire Nov 2020 #25
Beat me to it! smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #33
DFT belongs in the crematorium next to Four Seasons Total Landscaping RainCaster Nov 2020 #18
Only for heroic act. Such as, he travels to visit troops in ME. NCjack Nov 2020 #19
Donald would grab the nearest non-relative sycophant and 'volunteer' him on top of the grenade. keithbvadu2 Nov 2020 #34
Will they never stop with the gaslighting? Brainfodder Nov 2020 #20
Never. SoonerPride Nov 2020 #21
only if they build a bathroom directly over trump's burial site usajumpedtheshark Nov 2020 #22
Think of the extra military security that would require and how it would turn Arlington into a hlthe2b Nov 2020 #23
I'd be willing to make an exception for Rump, if he'd be willing to Buns_of_Fire Nov 2020 #24
NO!! EndlessWire Nov 2020 #26
No Trump. Burial at Arlington . He refused to serve. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #27
Why vice-presidents? dansolo Nov 2020 #28
JUST FUCK NO JI7 Nov 2020 #29
There is an easy way to get Senate support for Duckworth's bill dsc Nov 2020 #30
Or even better, Obama. Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #32
It would make his grave easier to find, for pissing purposes. Paladin Nov 2020 #31

lpbk2713

(42,736 posts)
7. I have never referred to Trump as (that title) and never will.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 12:54 AM
Nov 2020


I'd make a special trip to Arlington just to piss on his grave.

Ananda62

(257 posts)
10. No!
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 02:00 AM
Nov 2020

I’m a disabled vet and it would piss me off if nonveterans get to be buried at Arlington Nat’l Cemetery. Why would anyone think that is a good idea?

wnylib

(21,335 posts)
13. Apart from the repulsive idea of
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 02:25 AM
Nov 2020

Trump being buried at Arlington, I still don't believe that non veteran presidents should be buried there. The only possible argument for it is that they are Commanders-in-Chief, but that is also an argument against the idea.

The president is CIC precisely because he/she is a civilian. The constitution intentionally gives civilian cpntrol over the military. Even presidents who once setved are civilians when they are in office.

Burying non veteran presidents at Arlington would blur the distinction between the military and the civilian control of it.

Arlington is an honor for those who served. We should not diminish that honor in any way.

(And I don't believe that Trump didn't have at least a behind-the-scenes connection with this proposal.)

keithbvadu2

(36,654 posts)
15. 'Sacrifice' - Ironic how that word comes up with Trump and Arlington.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 02:38 AM
Nov 2020

The Trumps are not shy about proclaiming how much they have 'sacrificed'.

Visit to Arlington Cemetery reminded Donald Trump Jr. of all his family's 'sacrifices,' he writes

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/visit-to-arlington-cemetery-reminded-donald-trump-jr-of-all-his-family-s-sacrifices-he-writes-1.606501

RainCaster

(10,831 posts)
18. DFT belongs in the crematorium next to Four Seasons Total Landscaping
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 03:01 AM
Nov 2020

Rudy found where/how he should be buried. There is no way that anyone who didn't serve should be buried at Arlington. Especially Cadet BoneSpurs.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
19. Only for heroic act. Such as, he travels to visit troops in ME.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 03:02 AM
Nov 2020

In a fox hole with wounded soldiers, a hostile tosses a grenade into the fox hole, and Trump fights through the pain of his bone spurs and throws his body over it to save the soldiers. It explodes and kills him.

I would accept that deed as a ticket to Arlington. But, he has less than 2 months to perform the act.

keithbvadu2

(36,654 posts)
34. Donald would grab the nearest non-relative sycophant and 'volunteer' him on top of the grenade.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 10:24 AM
Nov 2020

Donald would grab the nearest non-relative sycophant and 'volunteer' him on top of the grenade.

Medal to follow - for Donald.

hlthe2b

(102,119 posts)
23. Think of the extra military security that would require and how it would turn Arlington into a
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:49 AM
Nov 2020

permanent battle zone for those offended by Trump's rotting body presence. This is insane.

No. If they didn't serve, they should be buried there.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,151 posts)
24. I'd be willing to make an exception for Rump, if he'd be willing to
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 08:07 AM
Nov 2020

take advantage of it within the next few days.

Other than that, no.

Besides, I thought he was scheduled to be planted on one of his properties (whichever one hasn't been foreclosed on when Satan calls him home).

dansolo

(5,376 posts)
28. Why vice-presidents?
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 09:15 AM
Nov 2020

VP is nowhere in the chain of command. It is all bullshit trying to suck up to Trump to bestow another unearned honor upon him by sycophantic cowards.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
30. There is an easy way to get Senate support for Duckworth's bill
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 10:00 AM
Nov 2020

have Bill Clinton leak that he is considering being buried at Arlington if the rule is changed, I guarantee you that Duckworth's bill banning such a change would pass in a nanosecond.

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
31. It would make his grave easier to find, for pissing purposes.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 10:03 AM
Nov 2020

But no, Arlington should be reserved for the military.

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