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Sun Nov 22, 2020, 06:36 PM

 

If it goes to the supreme court then what?

If it makes it there and his appointees, Thomas and Alito install him as president... then what? What happens then? I know people are going to reply that it won't happen. But I'm sorry there are countless things that weren't going to happen. Honestly what do we do then?

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Reply If it goes to the supreme court then what? (Original post)
SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 OP
lapfog_1 Nov 2020 #1
Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #2
SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #3
Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #7
SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #10
Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #16
tritsofme Nov 2020 #22
StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #27
SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #30
Drunken Irishman Nov 2020 #34
LanternWaste Nov 2020 #24
SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #31
IsItJustMe Nov 2020 #29
still_one Nov 2020 #4
Towlie Nov 2020 #18
still_one Nov 2020 #21
hamsterjill Nov 2020 #5
EndlessWire Nov 2020 #11
sarisataka Nov 2020 #6
SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #8
Politicub Nov 2020 #14
Towlie Nov 2020 #20
sarisataka Nov 2020 #15
Retrograde Nov 2020 #9
milestogo Nov 2020 #12
Crunchy Frog Nov 2020 #13
coti Nov 2020 #17
SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #19
coti Nov 2020 #23
SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #25
LanternWaste Nov 2020 #28
SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #36
coti Nov 2020 #35
greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #26
Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #32
OregonBlue Nov 2020 #33

Response to SlogginThroughIt (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 06:38 PM

1. cities with boarded up windows

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 06:39 PM

2. If the sun burns out tomorrow, please tell me what you plan to do about it.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #2)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 06:42 PM

3. Pretty sure there is a big difference

 

Pretty sure there is a big difference between global extinction and this. But whatever.

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 06:55 PM

7. Not really. Both are improbable.

Why worry about something that is very unlikely to happen?

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:00 PM

10. DO you think they will appeal it to the supreme court?

 

I do. And at that point we are down to whether or not they decide to take it. People say they will look like fools if they take it. It won't matter anymore if they look like fools doing it because the country as we have known it will be done. This was the reason to install over 200 federal judges and to steal the supreme court. All of this hinges on norms and the idea that the SC won't take the case.

I am not heartened by that. So yeah as an exercise what happens if they take the case and install him? Is it going to hurt anyone to think about that?

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:10 PM

16. I really don't care if they appeal to the Supreme Court...

1. If they do, the Supreme Court is unlikely to hear the case.

2. If they appeal the PA case to the Supreme Court, even if the Supreme Court rules in their favor, which isn't likely to happen, it doesn't mean dick. It just kicks it back down to the original court where they're allowed to proceed with EVIDENCE. The Supreme Court can't, on the current litigation, decide the lawsuit. The only thing they can decide is whether Trump's lawyers can submit actual evidence of their claim.

Look, it's clear you're going to get up for fear porn. I am not. I am not going to waste my time questioning something that isn't going to happen.

It's funny: there's literally no difference between the far-right and the far-left and their extremes on this. Both believe the Supreme Court will rule in Trump's favor and hand the election to Trump. Both are delusional.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #16)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:21 PM

22. You win the thread.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #16)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:26 PM

27. Boom!

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #16)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:29 PM

30. Ok.

 

1. Right so again we are going on the idea that the supreme court is unlikely to take it up. Oops 2000 says Hang on a second.

2. They are stalling to find or manufacture evidence right now.

Fear porn? No. Not at all. I'm interested in a discussion regarding what happens if the unthinkable happens. Because it sure seems like the entirety of the republican party is very interested in overturning this election. If you don't want to waste your time there is an option to trash the thread. It isn't hard but it seems that you do want to spend your time commenting.

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #30)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:40 PM

34. It is fear porn. No serious legal scholar believes they have a prayer of success.

And you're latching onto fear to ask questions to stoke up more fear.

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:25 PM

24. Every court to date has laughed in their faces and called them idiots.

What specifically compels you to think the next higher appellate courts (way before the USSC) will not do the same? It won't hurt anyone to think about that, right?

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #24)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:30 PM

31. Right. I think we can all agree that their cases are laughable

 

I also though hanging chads were laughable too.

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:28 PM

29. Then it's game fucking over. That's what.

That means that America has become a dictatorship. That means that there really isn't a reason for a federal senate, a federal supreme court, a federal house of representatives, or a reason to vote anymore. If we live in a dictatorship, the strong man calls all the shots. Our entire system of Democracy is based on the idea that people have the right to choose their leaders. We have. Any sane person with more than two brain cells in their head knows that to be a fact.

Does that answer your question?

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 06:50 PM

4. If they allow that illegal action, then I want California to secede from the union, because the

union no longer exists

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Response to still_one (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:12 PM

18. No, we don't want California to secede from the Union because we need their electoral votes.


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Response to Towlie (Reply #18)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:18 PM

21. If they throw out all the Democratic votes, and install trump, the country no longer exists

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 06:50 PM

5. You and I are of the same mind.

Iíve seen SO much over the last four years that wasnít SUPPOSED to happen. Then the surprised looks when it did.

Iím tired of surprised looks. I want action. If the Dems can see this coming, I refuse to believe thereís nothing someone can do.

I barely survived this term with the orange asshole. I wonít survive a term of any length with him as a full fledged dictator. Iím not the only one.

But the answer to the question you asked is that nothing will be done. There may be some skirmishes and some violence, but if it comes down to that, Trumpers will win. Because they can kill someone over nothing. Dems still have a conscience to live with.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #5)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:06 PM

11. Very well said.

But, I think that it will start a civil war. I think it wouldn't start immediately, but give or take a few weeks.

And, there are more of us than there are Trump cultists. And, we have the military.

At least until he fires the current Joint Chiefs.

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 06:54 PM

6. Do you have any suggestions

As to what we should do, should this happen?

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 06:57 PM

8. THAT'S WHY I ASKED A QUESTION.

 

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:10 PM

14. Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to.

I heard that in a movie once. Not sure if it applies to this thread.

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Response to Politicub (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:17 PM

20. That's meant for lawyers examining witnesses in court.


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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:10 PM

15. Forgive me, I had thought that perhaps

Since you seem to have given this scenario some thought you may also have considered some options to respond.

At the core, there are two possibilities. The first is simply to accept it and have four more years of the same circus. With that precedence, the 2024 election is irrelevant as the PTB can simply install whoever they choose to the office.

The other choice is to not accept it. That opens a whole range of possibilities from having two competing Presidents to passive opposition to more active measures.

In either case, large numbers of people will be operating outside of any Constitutional framework. The last example of such a situation led to much bloodshed, although it is not a given that history will repeat itself.

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 06:59 PM

9. When in the Course of human events...

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation." - T. Jefferson et al

IMHO it will spark a civil war. Whether it will be a cold war or a shooting war I don't know, but rifts will widen. I think our current allies around the world will not recognize Trump's coup as a legitimate government and the US will become increasingly isolated. The secession movement in California and possibly other states will get a boost. And that's me being optimistic.

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:08 PM

12. what is "it"?

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:08 PM

13. They'd basically be ruling to end the United States,

end democracy, end the legitimacy of their own institution, and plunge us into complete societal breakdown.

I hope and believe that Justice Roberts would put it to them in these apocalyptic terms, and at least one of them would refuse to go along with it.

I believe that Roberts actually cares about his legacy and the court's legitimacy enough to really fight against such a thing.

If the court rules to end the United States, then all bets are off.

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:12 PM

17. The results of a good four states or so would have to be overturned

for that to happen. It's not going to happen, Biden is our next President. Enough with nonsense like this.

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Response to coti (Reply #17)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:15 PM

19. Enough with people like you telling others what to do

 

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #19)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:21 PM

23. You're clearly pretty aggravated and not at your best mentally.

One more suggestion-- get some sleep.

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Response to coti (Reply #23)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:25 PM

25. You have absolutely no idea who I am

 

You seem to be too smart by half.

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #25)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:26 PM

28. Oddly enough, the corollary seems to apply to you.

"You seem to be too smart by half."

Six of one, half a dozen of the other... and each as substantive as the other.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #28)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:46 PM

36. Just asking a question and wondering if ther eis any recourse

 

And all I get is don't worry it won't happen. I haven't tried to outsmart anyone or tell them that their questions are invalid.

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Reply #25)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:43 PM

35. True, I'm only familiar with the belligerant behavior you're presenting here.

Maybe you're always like this and sleep won't help you? Pardon my presumption.

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Response to coti (Reply #23)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:25 PM

26. +1000

Somebody needs some rest.

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:31 PM

32. No point

losing any sleep over it. The Court won't hand the election to Trump.

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Response to SlogginThroughIt (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 07:34 PM

33. Who would it go to? Since Roberts is the justice for D.C. and Federal District, would it go to him?

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