How can anyone let this slide?

[kentuck]

The threats, the anxiety, the stress, the fears, the deaths?

Everyone that is complicit in this crime against our nation must be held accountable.

We cannot sweep it under the rug and forget about.

It must be pursued.

Some should go to jail.

[SheltieLover]

1. All involved must get harshest penalties allowed and asset forfeitures

No two ways about it!

[raffishtenant]

18. Lost me at asset forfeiture

I respectfully disagree. Civil asset forfeiture is a massive stain on our justice system, one which I refuse to grant any additional (un)constitutional legitimacy...not even in the case of a bunch of evil authoritarian scumbags who admittedly deserve it more than most.

[SheltieLover]

20. As repayment for any who are proven to have cheated the US

Not for the hell of it.

Repayment for all those fancy vacations, overcharging Secret Service for rooms at dump proerties, etc.

[niyad]

22. Welcome to our DU family.

[raffishtenant]

40. Thank you! Good to be here.

[Eyeball_Kid]

34. RICO violations and subsequent forfeitures are much more justifiable. n/t

[raffishtenant]

37. Okay, that's reasonable.

Just don't want to see forfeiture used as a back door when criminal prosecution isn't successful.

[we can do it]

53. Recouping stolen goods sound better?

[onetexan]

104. I like that. Ex: Dejail -he needs to pay for all those sorting machines he destroyed

That +jail time.

[we can do it]

105. Like this☝🏼exactly.

[Grasswire2]

89. what about criminal asset forfeiture, then? nt

[democrank]

2. I'm no fan of taking the easy way out.

If Trump isn’t held accountable for his crimes, not only will there be another Trump, but our nation’s basic principles will mean nothing. Nothing.

[Demsrule86]

11. I am no fan of doing things that will help Republicans. Send help to the people.

let The AG and states handle Trump and those who broke the law...wouldn't be surprised if some go to jail in the Senate for insider trading. But I digress. You have to understand we hate Trump and believe everyone will agree with us if the truth is revealed. I don't think that is the case. Some will be with him forever. And Trump is slippery. It may very well be that he has managed to skirt the law. I remember Cohen saying Trump never directly ordered anything. Now he could end up in real trouble in New York and I sincerely hope he does. But I am not willing to sacrifice our chance to govern and pass important policy to go after Trump in a way that helps the Republicans. Trump is in his 70's, time will take care of him. And I am a person of faith and believe he will pay an eternal price for his crimes. Look at the food lines. How do you suppose those folks will feel if we spend our time fighting with Trump? What is the saying? Revenge is best served cold.

[RVN VET71]

47. Can do both. Should do both.

Must do both.

Let DOJ investigate and if there are found indictable offenses, let justice take its course. If none are found, let Trump live to see others in his administration -- and family -- suffer consequences of their less-protected collaboration with his crimes. The Federal Government need not be confined to one set of actions when there is so much to be done, so much rebuilding of a government destroyed by a con-man. Fixing Justice is a great place to start.

Faith is strong medicine, but I think a deity would prefer we not leave it all up to him or her to take action.

[Demsrule86]

67. You can't do both this time IMHO. I have said let justice handle it... but many will be pardoned.

What I caution against is endless hearings in the House. People are starving and losing their homes...in the winter and there are few shelters. That must be our priority.

[LeftInTX]

68. I agree

If we can't successfully convict cops for killing people, even if it's caught on camera, how are we gonna convict Trump of anything?


At the most, he will probably end up paying a huge fine. It will probably a be settlement of sorts....Didn't he pay huge fines for discrimination lawsuits in the past?

[quakerboy]

102. I do vaguely recall that a while back

I think it was under BushII, but could have been even earlier, the senate passed rules that allowed themselves to partake in insider trading.

Trumps eternal price is irrelevant. I care about not having this happen again in 4 years. We let BushII and all of his cronys get away scott free, and that resulted in Trump. What happens if we do the same thing again? What is worse than trump? I do NOT want to find out.

[ehrnst]

3. What Democrats are "letting it slide"

[Ferrets are Cool]

4. Preemptive post

[ehrnst]

5. Yes, it shows great concern.

Just wanted to know about whom.

[kentuck]

6. Yes, it does show great concern.

I agree.

[ehrnst]

35. But you don't say about whom.

Why is that?

[kentuck]

63. You seem to be very defensive...

...are you certain the Democrats won't need a little prodding? Or whatever they decide is OK with you?

[Demsrule86]

69. Yes, I am sure...it is this prodding and the subsequent 'message' voting that made sure

we had six years under Obama where nothing was achieved. Democrats should have no hand in prosecuting anyone. Leave it to Justice and move on with sending help to the people. If Biden is attacked on the right and the left, he is toast, we lose the house and a trumper could get in in 24. Either we support Democrats fully or we continue to lose and the GOP is permitted by us to destroy the country.

[kentuck]

71. If Democrats do not have a strong Justice Dept, willing to turn over every rock, ....

...and get to the facts about what has happened, then the writing is on the wall. Democrats will not have the support of a majority and they will lose the next election, in my opinion.

[ehrnst]

75. So you're convinced Biden will purposefully choose an AG who will blow off holding

Trump accountable unless he's pressured to do otherwise?

You seem to have a very dim view of the Democratic President-elect.

Any specific reason?

[paleotn]

88. I don't think Biden or his AG will let this criminality slide...

Not in the least. One of the many reasons I support Joe Biden. But you've got to remember, many of us have a real sore spot for what happened after the financial melt down. A whole crew of well connected suits should have gone to jail for what they did. But they didn't. Normal people got crushed, lost their jobs, their homes. Wall Street types walked away without even a slap on the wrist.

[kentuck]

95. I'm hoping he hires someone that understands the necesssity of knowing the facts...

...about certain issues, especially those related to Russia.

However, on a positive side of hope, Joe Biden was on the Foreign Relations Committee for several years when he was in the Senate. He is very experienced in foreign relations.

But, I do not understand this unquestioning loyalty to politicians, not Donald Trump or anyone else. I do not buy that stuff, "My side is always right". Sometimes we all make mistakes.

[ehrnst]

110. So you assume he doesn't 'understand the necessity of knowing the facts.'

Got it.

The statement that anyone who doesn't doubt Biden's motives or ability like you do is displaying "unquestioning loyalty," to any and all Democratic policians is a false dichotomy.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/false_dichotomy

You're welcome.

[paleotn]

112. ??

Not sure how you got THAT from what I wrote, but hey...whatever.

[ehrnst]

111. I remember the melt down. I wanted people to go to jail as well, because I lost my job as a result.

Not being a lawyer, I don't know what criminal charges specifically were applicable to specific CEOs under the regulations at the time.

Jeffrey Skilling was convicted in a criminal trial of conspiracy, securities fraud, insider trading and lying to auditors, so I assume if a case could be made against others, it would have been. Ken Lay was also found guilty of fraud and conspiracy, but died of heart failure shortly after the trial.

As I've said several times in this thread, Biden CANNOT ethically or legally be involved, or appear to weigh in at ALL concerning any investigation of Trump. Biden should not be seen as choosing an AG based on their plan to prosecute Trump, because independent prosecutors have to handle it, We have to avoid even the appearance that this is a political prosecution of a political adversary, rather than criminal prosecution, however much people demand it of Biden to satisfy their feelings of retribution for Trump doing exactly that.

As much as we would like to see Biden rip Trump apart publicly and demanding LOCK HIM UP, to do so would be doing what Trump did to intimidate anyone who crossed him, and should be investigated for. Disappointing as it may be for some, that is how it has to go down. Some who have ill feelings about Biden winning the primary will likely grab onto this as rationalization for their lingering anger, and see it as validation for their support for another candidate, sadly.

I do think one reason that Biden is delaying naming the AG is to lessen the time for discussion and questioning if they will open an investigation into Trump, and trigger Trump into pardoning his cronies preemptively, and this demand to see Trump bleed legally is one reason why.

Do I want Trump to die in prison? OH Yes. Do I think that I am owed that unlikely outcome by Democrats in order for me to support Democrats? Unlike some I've heard on DU, no.

Do I want the main activity of the next congress to be pursuing multiple investigations against the previous administration? No, particularly since there are dozens of legal challenges against him waiting in the courts at the state level that could possibly bleed him drier than any congressional investigation could.

I expect Congress and the Biden administration to hit the ground trying staunch the hemmoraging of our institutions and do the work of cleaning up the damage, even if it's not going to sate my fantasy of him getting the full Mussolini.

[ehrnst]

74. Did you find a sale on strawmen? You seem to have some very grave doubts about Democratic leadership

Care to share why?

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

7. As far as penalties go...

Along with a guilty verdict that would incur jail time I believe the death penalty should on the table for some.

[Demsrule86]

12. I don't believe in the death penalty.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

25. Quite honestly I don't either...

But without naming names there are some in this administration that have direct responsibility for the deaths of hundreds of thousands. It kinda has changed my stance.

[KS Toronado]

38. Republican administrations (national & state) have always been pro-death penalty

Be interesting to watch them reverse course if King Hair-Doo was looking at the chair.

[2naSalit]

60. +1

[Demsrule86]

87. Not mine, I hate those people and Trump in particular but state sanctioned murder is wrong.

[electric_blue68]

82. I'm against it for various reasons And ...

there are people's actions that try my ethics.
😠🤬🤬🤬😠
I totally get why someone might change their mind under these heinuous events.

But hopefully very long prison sentences will fit the bill! And not in a "Country Club" prison either.
Still, not being able to more or less come and go as you please, and being (for many people) under a mostly monotonous routine routine.... gah!

[onetexan]

8. Once Biden's admin is sworn in and we have a new AG something can be done. Right now we know

spineless repugs won't do anything.

[kentuck]

9. Yes, it has to be done.

In the least divisive and offensive way possible. But it has to be done.

[Demsrule86]

13. Trump may not have committed prosecutable crimes...I would bet he hasn't.

He has been skirting the law his entire life. Our best chance is in New York with the tax charges and the Trump foundation. And that frees up Biden for sending help to the people if we get the Senate or beating up on the Republicans senate if we don't. The AG can investigate and should. But you have to accept that there may not be enough evidence to convict him of anything. And he will no doubt be pardoned one way or the other which is why New York is our best chance.

[Eyeball_Kid]

36. He has committed prosecutable crimes. SDNY has him as a co-conspirator.

Mueller identified several instances of Obstruction of Justice.

And then there's the Emoluments Clause that's never been addressed.

And what about "criminally negligent homicide", otherwise called his COVID-19 policy?

OH. Let's not forget the kidnapping of the children of refugees.

..And his collaborating with the evil Prince in Saudi Arabia who killed Khashoggi? What about Kushner's covering up of MBS's plot to murder him?

And, as you mentioned, Trump's tax cheating will offer a rich resource for more time in the courtroom.

[Demsrule86]

43. The SDNY crimes will be pardoned. So we are left with the State crimes. There will never

be criminally negligent homicide charges although he deserves it. The same is true for the children...that was policy and won't be charged criminally...horrible policy. Saudi Arabia is unlikely to result in prosecution...you can bet while Trump was involved, we will never prove it. Tax cheating at the state level, Trump business in New York and whatever cases the new AG deems prosecuteable are what we are looking at. Biden should not involve himself nor should congress. We are in big trouble as a country. Send help to Americans...nothing else matters now.

[summer_in_TX]

97. Can one be pardoned when not indicted?

I haven't heard of pre-emptive pardons.

Plus pardons mean guilt. Trump wants to run in 2024. Will he do something that essentially admits guilt?

[Demsrule86]

85. I was talking federal...and he will pardon himself.

[RVN VET71]

62. If we can't try the Boss, we can try his Lieutenants.

Trump may walk free of federal indictments, but his lackeys and children need not.

I would like to see, for example, the dubious commutation Trump gave Roger Stone revoked because he has continued lying and fomenting disinformation afterwards.

And there's Wilbur, and Pompeo, and, of course, Fatboy Barr, plus Trump's eldest and second sons and his felonious daughter (Ivanka, of course. I don't think Tiffany was drawn deeply enough into the shit show to have actually committed a crime -- and I do think her appearance late in the game had something to do with money.)

[Demsrule86]

65. The AG can look into it as can states. I would be they will all be pardoned on the federal level.

[electric_blue68]

84. Well, we in NYC are...

are waiting with bated breath for AG James to get going with her case(s).

[Demsrule86]

15. It is time to move forward with our policies and such which are quite popular...not backwards.

Let it go. New York and the AG should handle this.

[Demsrule86]

70. He is going to be pardoned...so what will happen? Maybe New York will work we shall see.

[ehrnst]

76. Why are you so certain that it won't be?

You keep avoiding answering that question while you keep posting your pessimism that the Democratic President-elect will appoint an AG that will investigate wrongdoing.

Do you have some intel on the inability or unwillingness of President-elect to do this that the rest of us don't?

Please share.

[mdbl]

21. I would say due to complicit repugs

The spineless are always among us.

[Demsrule86]

44. What I would say is those who may cause us to lose elections are always among us...not you

of course.

[OhioTim]

103. Biden Hopes To Avoid Investigations

[link:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/president-elect-biden-wary-trump-focused-investigations-sources-say-n1247959|

[brooklynite]

10. Which crime are you talking about?

[kentuck]

14. Oh, there are no crimes.

It's all political, including all the charges from the Mueller Report.

SDNY has nothing. He is clean as a whistle.

[brooklynite]

17. I find that what most people here assume are crimes committed as President...

...don't have an actual Statutory basis. And I'm not sure that the the pre-Presidential charges he's likely to face are the type that result in jail time.

[kentuck]

19. Is attempting a coup or subverting our Constitution a crime?

What would it be called?

[brooklynite]

24. Ask yourself: How has Trump attempted a Coup?

Seriously, think through your statement. Trump has gone to Court to overturn election results. Does he have a legal right to do so? Yes. He's asked Legislators to overturn the vote certifications in their States. Do States have the legal right to determine how to allocate their Electors? Yes. Has Trump done anything outside of the legal process? No.

I not arguing the ETHICS or APPROPRIATENESS of his behavior. But we don't apply the legal process on the basis of "we know what he's trying to do". We apply it on the basis of specific laws and factual evidence.

[kentuck]

26. You're the lawyer.

What part does "intent" play in a criminal charge?

[brooklynite]

29. Again, WHAT criminal charge?

People tend to forget one MASSIVE point about the Constitution: it DOES NOT grant citizens the right to vote for President.

[kentuck]

30. Do you honestly believe that Donald Trump has committed no crimes?

Or are we willing to overlook small "crimes" like obstruction of justice and suborning perjury? Why?

[brooklynite]

31. In my experience, the line between policy choices and criminal activity by Elected Officials...

...tends to be blurry.

I'm willing to opine that whatever criminal charges Trump may face, they will NOT be the result of his tenure as President.

[kentuck]

33. I think the only thing standing between Trump and jail are knowing the facts and the truth...

...which continue to be concealed.

Just my opinion.

[Demsrule86]

55. I heard this during impeachment. And the Democrats clearly showed Trump's criminality and

it didn't matter a bit to the Senate or his supporters. Those who opined that the Senate would have to convict if the truth was revealed were wrong. The idea that if only we get the evidence out there, why they will realize what garbage Trump is. This is simply not true. We want to believe that what we think is what others think...and again that is not the case. You can make sure and should that every bit of evidence is released and it won't matter. Consider Bob Woodward...who taped Trump admitting he knew the virus was transmittable by air and very dangerous even though Trump lied for months. It didn't change one Trumper mind.

I am exhausted with the Trump show. My husband and I spent almost a year unemployed before he got a job. I watch my neighbors going hungry in Ohio and becoming homeless with little help in terms of shelters or food-entire families could freeze and/or starve to death this year. The virus level is huge in Ohio too. I want to move on and get something done. Leave Trump to New York and the AG. Saving lives is way more important.

[ehrnst]

81. Your opinion of Biden seems very dim.

Why is that? I've asked several times, and you don't answer.

You have made pronouncements on how you expect that Democratic leaders, including Biden, will refuse do what is possible to investigate Trump, and you also seem to be absolutely sure of what charges are rock solid.

[Demsrule86]

45. I think so too...Policy and criminal behavior as you point out is blurry at best.

[ehrnst]

79. I believe that the state AGs will inflict death by a thousand stings

much more effectively, to boot.

But I am sure that the new AG will look into the matter and do what is possible, even if it's not raw meat for some who crave it.

[ehrnst]

77. So you honestly believe that he won't be prosecuted to the full extent of the law?

Care to share why you think this?

Who is the 'we' you're referring to?

Because it's not any Democratic leaders I know.

[ehrnst]

78. Red herring fallacy.

[questionseverything]

92. Kidnapping and torturing children is a criminal act

We will never know the true numbers affected because this administration deliberately didn’t keep track of them

Then there are many cases of obstruction and perjury,plus breaking the emoluments clause


Heck if we can get a prosecutor to look at his calls with putin we might get a treason charge to stick

[onetexan]

106. Bingo!!

[gibraltar72]

16. And some should go blindfolded to a wall.

[jaxexpat]

23. The groundswell, the blue wave, the grass roots movement......

we were so sure of on November 2nd will finally manifest itself on January 20th. There will be a howling for accountability from the general public. Can Democrats satisfy the public or will poorly framed excuses dominate justice? Milquetoast punditry cannot be allowed to claim the podium as people are passionately focusing on the singularity.

Democrats' have a duty to prosecute treason but its window of effectiveness is not infinite. Ultimately that's the question, effective vs impotent: the winner of this contest will determine the 2022 midterms. Democrats must climb the mountain of GOP corruption, defeating conservative judges and media bias with it's false narrative, then plant the victor's flag in the bodies at the top.

[brooklynite]

27. No there won't be...

here will be a howling for accountability from the general public

Activists will pressure the Administration for action, but most voters won't care about Trump's legal situation. They'll want Biden to focus on the bread and butter issues they care about, and not to be distracted by "politics".

[jaxexpat]

32. The administration won't participate in prosecutable action if they're as smart as I think.

They'll be focused on the B & B issues. The DOJ, however, will set its own agenda.

I'm betting there are a lot of average folks who are outraged at GOP antics and want some payback. Trump has trodden over the "sacred" American concept of justice; That no self-important, loudmouthed, blowhard gets away with their public crimes.

When McConnell tries his stunts again the nasty calls to congresspersons will come from people they've never heard from before. For them, it's all about the road to 2022.

[Ligyron]

59. I nominate Hillary R Clinton for AG.

We can let her DOJ investigate and prosecute as needed.

[Demsrule86]

52. +1000000

[Demsrule86]

46. There is no such howling...and half the country wants Trump left alone. he should be charged in

New York for his tax crimes and Trump foundation crimes but we need to choose the American people over revenge fantasies.

[hay rick]

61. Which American people?

I prefer my revenge fantasies to the salty tears of the 70,000,000+ Americans who voted for the con.

[Demsrule86]

66. Trump still has 47% support...unfathomable to me but, there it is.

Justice can deal with Trump and the states also...New York and DC for example. We need to work on sending help to the American people. I have no idea what you mean with the revenge /salty tears thing. I want to save the house in 2022, it is in endangered and we need to win in red and/or purple states. I want to take the Senate now in GA or at least in 22 where the map is favorable...again red or purple states. I don't want thousands of Americans to starve or freeze to death this winter or die of Covid. Trump is way down on my list. He lost and that really hurt him in ways a normal person can't understand; he already faces court battles.

[jaxexpat]

83. What is it then? What's the real problem?

Lines of citizens lined up for assistance as the weather gets colder or the perpetrators of the economic disruption walking away nose in the air, profits in their pockets? Which is the real problem? Which of the problems have a remedy?

One must understand that to remedy the needs of these lines of people, Democrats will need to persevere over the efforts of those that intentionally created those lines. The key to one is the key to both. No other path has any hope of progress toward relief. History records that a population with hungry bellies occurs alongside government ineffectuality, EVERY TIME.

It's broke, the government's broke and a few wrist slaps administered by "good people in high places" on unfeeling wrists will be an outrage in the face of so much suffering. The universal groan at so much injustice. Nothing in this world is ever completed, there is only the constant compass pointing to justice and those who follow it.

A pretense of misunderstanding these issues is simply a "liberal" version of the corporate lunch.

[Demsrule86]

86. Congress needs to address a national emergency and leave the prosecution to the AG and

the states. It is the humanitarian thing to do and also makes political sense. In that if we turn the next two to four years into and endless investigation of Trump and I don't doubt he deserves it... ET AL...we will lose both in 2022 and 2024.

[jaxexpat]

93. But not just Trump.

I see a real value in a determined effort toward indictment of every nefarious deed the GOP ever did. Broadcast in real time to the general population because it will be THE news every day. The AG should be able to do this simultaneously with regular crime control because knocking the wind out of the GOP is crime control. They're the force behind ALL organized crime and we all know it.

[Texin]

28. I'm a woman who escaped a physically abusive domestic partner.

(And I don't use the term "escaped" lightly.) After months of gaslighting, abusive language, and physical abuse (judiciously meted out so as not to leave notable physical marks on my face, neck, hands, arms or any likely exposed areas of my person), I fled that situation. I was lucky to get out, frankly. And I was luckier that I could land safely without my abusive partner knowing where I was.

Sometimes, just getting out is enough. My physical and mental safety were all that mattered to me at that time, and I believe he was contemplating far worse for me than just domestic abuse, frankly. I never looked back or regretted leaving, even thought it meant I was leaving more than 50% equity in a house I had co-signed with him not two years before. I quit-claimed my share in order to be permanently shed of him. And I consider myself lucky.

Sometimes just seeing a situation come to an end is enough. I feel that way now with MAGATs and retrumplicans, though each and every one of them deserve richly to be punished to the fullest extent of the laws of this land. Just enough. I know others disagree. I do understand, and to some extent, while I feel the same way and believe it would be a good thing for them all to be prosecuted, convicted and sent down the river for the rest of their execrable lives, I would be satisfied with them just folding up their caravan and departing in the night like all sideshow grifters eventually do. Just go. Leave us in peace and not pieces.

[COL Mustard]

39. I'm Glad You Were Able To Escape

And sorry that you had to go through that. I hope you are doing well today.

I think the best punishment for most of those people you referenced is to just ignore them. Deny them the oxygen they so desperately need. They will eventually dry up and go away. (The politicians and their supporters, not the physical abusers you referenced.)

[Demsrule86]

48. Time to work for the people.

[LeftInTX]

72. So sorry this happened to you

I'm sorry that you had to take such a financial loss to get out of that awful situation, but we see this time and time again.

Just seeing Trump lose is revenge to me. Not having to endure his reality show which is the POTUS is revenge..

Trump will fade into obscurity....He will try all sorts of come backs, but it isn't gonna work...Like Giuliani with dripping hair color...it's all gonna be shit show for Trump, once he's no longer in the WH.

[DemoTex]

41. Some should burn in hell.

Or its equivalent.

[Demsrule86]

49. Without a doubt.

[liberalla]

42. To sweep it under the rug is to invite further assault on our nation.

Each successive assault is more dangerous and damaging than the previous... as we have seen.

We know this. We've witnessed it. It's not speculative.

Accountability and punishment is necessary. It is required. We must demand it

[Demsrule86]

50. It is not sweeping it under the rug and you can bet it will happen again now that they have

tried once. We should look at putting road blocks in their way. We need to look at the facts and if will realize that any prosecution should be left to the AG and the states-not Congress. Did you see the miles long lines for food in many places today? The huge increase in Covid cases and deaths. We have problems that must be dealt with now. Let's move forward.

[BobTheSubgenius]

51. Agreed. Some should.

And those who voted or otherwise supported, but not in an active role, should be ashamed. But they won't be.

[dlk]

54. All of the crimes have been calculated and intentional

They must feel the pain of accountability, otherwise they will assume our tacit approval and continually do worse.

[Joinfortmill]

56. Many should go to jail.

[tiptonic]

57. Nuremberg

Nuremberg (type) trials r in order here. Overseen by neutral country justices.

[mtnsnake]

58. Who exactly wants to "sweep it under the rug?"

When you say "We cannot sweep it under the rug and forget about" I don't know of anyone here or anyone else outside this forum who despises Trump wants to sweep it under the rug.

[Skittles]

91. perhaps it is reference to the track record

remember all those people who went to jail for lying their way into a war? No?

[Enoki33]

64. In it's simplest moral, ethical and legal form either we are a nation

of laws, or we are not. We have to also decide what we want to leave for the next generation, and ultimately the planet. Justice should indeed be blind, not dependent on political considerations.

[kentuck]

73. As others have noted, Joe Biden does not have to get deeply involved.

He only needs a strong Justice Dept that can keep the heat and the investigations on Donald Trump and his criminal connections for the remainder of his days.

[ehrnst]

80. So you think Biden won't choose an AG who is "strong?"

It appears you believe that you know better than anyone he appoints what is and isn't legally possible.

Are you a constitutional lawyer?

[kentuck]

94. No, I don't know that he will, but....

I am hoping he does.

That's the best I got today. Sorry.

[ehrnst]

109. So you're assuming he won't.

Got it.

[Skittles]

90. they need to be held accountable

but I am not holding my breath

[Catch2.2]

96. Without Consequences...

There will be more Trumpism but worse! There can be no "We need to move past this". NO! Trump and his cronies need to be prosecuted!!!!

[LiberalLovinLug]

98. I think the leadership group of the party must concede to letting the AG off any reigns

Despite Biden's recent overtures the other way. There are already charges that are waiting if they so choose. A clear obstruction of justice charge from the Mueller investigation, where Trump ordered his admin staff not to obey summons. The ONLY argument Barr made to not proceed with it was he was a sitting President. Those charges should now go forward.

As well as the other multiple charges like money laundering, fraud, tax evasion. I want him so embroiled in legal battles federally and State side, that he is too broke and too busy to be able to ever run again in 2024.
Seriously, step on his throat when you can. A serpent like that will just wiggle out of it if your not quick and lethal when opportunity arises.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

99. That's what we do :( we overlooked ALL trump crimes for

Four years, except for Ukraine.
Unless, hopefully Biden pursues???? Hope! hope! hope!

[Blue Owl]

100. K&R

[ucrdem]

101. Don't forget that Kamala Harris is a former prosecutor

and Biden himelf is an attorney, so when they find a bone, they'll howl. But they have to get in their and start digging and Trump has managed to keep them away from the boneyard even now, with promises of access maybe next week.

But justice will be served I have no doubt.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

108. Dejoy and Emily Murphy are examples of individuals who

deliberately damaged our country. Murphy put our country in serious danger because of her devotion to Trump, and she needs to be held accountable.

DeJoy's deliberate sabotage of the USPS in order to disenfranchise voters and help get Trump elected is indisputable.

Is DeJoy still in the US, or has he already flown the coop?