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I thought Obama started slowly, but now Romney is just manic and making a fool of himself throwing tantrums over whose going to get the last word. Obama is presidential. Mitt is acting a bit childish.
What do you think?
earthside
(6,960 posts)OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)graywarrior
(59,440 posts)MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)DURHAM D
(32,952 posts)dhill926
(16,953 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)mvd
(65,825 posts)awake
(3,226 posts)Mitt Whitt is getting manic
bakpakr
(168 posts)Mittens is actually winning. Pres. Obama NEEDS to go on the offensive and not be as defensive as he is being. Hit him hard!!!
GreenPartyVoter
(73,359 posts)NYC Liberal
(20,444 posts)Systematic Chaos
(8,601 posts)This whole thing is just annoying the living shit out of me so far.
Of course, your mileage may vary....
dhill926
(16,953 posts)average American. Think Mitt is winning. He's lecturing. Will only piss off folks like us. Bit like Bush and Gore. Not liking this at all.....
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)He's lying and not being called on it by Obama.
Obama is going small, and that's a big mistake.
DURHAM D
(32,952 posts)bluethruandthru
(3,918 posts)The president needs to call romney out on jobs...remind people that what mitt says is NOT what he does! He ships jobs overseas...he ships his own money out of the country to avoid taxes.
MarthaMyDear
(473 posts)...but it makes no sense and he seems flustered.
fishwax
(29,346 posts)Yep, I'd say that's pretty close to the mark.
catbyte
(38,561 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)fishwax
(29,346 posts)I would give the edge to Obama because his demeanor (especially in the face) of Romney's weird distortions of Obama's record and Romney's own policies. Romney is getting increasingly frantic, and now it's starting to sound whiny. Obama is certainly winning on the calm, cool, and presidential measure.
qanda
(10,434 posts)Romney seems so prickly to me. His first answer was good but after that it was just blah, blah, blah to me.
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)You see, even if I agree with Obama's points and his delivery, Romney is being aggressive in a way that some people would actually like a lot.
Even if Romney is not giving any specifics or any sort of actual logic he is going after key points that people fall for.
Right now Obama is giving a nice little explanation that I can appreciate.
yortsed snacilbuper
(7,947 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Pisces
(6,150 posts)Robb
(39,665 posts)Obama's on target.
bdamomma
(69,130 posts)is getting longer and longer.....................................
JohnA1
(67 posts)Romney is winning unfortunately. Hes taking command of the debate and running over Obama. He seems more passionate even though hes lying through his damn teeth.
I Am dissapointed in Obama. He needs to fight more! Damn its frustrating.So much he could call Romney out on.
nobodyspecial
(2,286 posts)Autumn
(48,715 posts)Obama will step it up though.
highplainsdem
(59,592 posts)sounding like the bully he is at times. OTOH, there are a lot of people who will interpret that as "leadership."
The President is more thoughtful, more sympathetic, but could be more aggressive in responding to Romney.
highplainsdem
(59,592 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)he's showing far more confidence-- and bullshit wins when it's confident bullshit.
Obama is is in defensive mode, a very bad place to be, and just not making his case with his hesitant pauses.
If I weren't in Obama's camp and know where Romney's flat out lying, I'd think Romney is making the stronger case.
abumbyanyothername
(2,711 posts)Obama has the habit of thinking carefully before speaking.
Stryder
(450 posts)Looks like a toss up.
Wait o's about to respond to 760bil outta medicaid
laruemtt
(3,992 posts)Rmoney's coming off like an unstable bully.
mvd
(65,825 posts)Obama doesn't NEED to do more to beat that manic creep. I mean how do you respond to ranting and raving.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Safetykitten
(5,162 posts)Raine
(31,072 posts)downhill ever since and became completely flustered and stupid.
JCMach1
(29,072 posts)very bad debate all-around
Lightbulb_on
(315 posts)Obama is being passive.
Also, during the bit about insurance lost due to Obamacare POTUS is staring at the floor. He seems flustered or frustrated or something.
highplainsdem
(59,592 posts)Tactically Romney is doing well by sounding strong in his explanation of his tax plan, though it doesn't add up.
Tactically and stylistically, Romney is winning so far. He's coming on strong. Seems to have brought his A game.
Pres. Obama saying we've tried both methods and know the results, the 8 years of Bush vs. 8 years of Clinton was his best point.
Pres. Obama isn't in Denver, he's debating from Wonkland. Make passionate points!
Autumn
(48,715 posts)Flat and wonkish.
demwing
(16,916 posts)but is frantic now, exactly as you said.