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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI Will Use A Good Covid Vaccine As Soon As Possible
I don't want to die.
If Fauchi says its ok I'm all on board.
bottomofthehill
(8,329 posts)Hopefully enough people will get the vaccine so that we can reach heard immunity.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... need a text book rushed vaccine when there are NPIs that wont kill our economy and controls the virus.
I'm the opposite of an anti vaxxer, I'll look at the science and no one has explained how the science of this vaccine is skipping the years of time testing vaccines.gov says all the other vaccines have gotten.
We need well proven federated responses and not a rushed vaccine
live love laugh
(13,100 posts)try anotheras long as the side effects are validated and tolerable.
safeinOhio
(32,674 posts)Had my 7th and 8th test Saturday. I'm more worried about giving than getting the virus.
FirstLight
(13,360 posts)I have an auto-immune disease and wonder how it will gell with the meds I take and the immune system being compromised. I know everyone SAYS I should get all flu and other vaccines... but since I have been on immune-suppressants the ONLY tme I got really fucking ill from the flu was after taking the vaccine :/ Maybe cuz it was a live one? IDK I'm kinda worried fir my own reasons...but gosh, If everyone else is taking it I could benefit too...
sorry (don't flame me, Im not trying to be one of THOSE anti-vaxxers)
Staph
(6,251 posts)I'm not an anti-vaxxer either. I'm a cancer survivor, currently on long-term immunotherapy. And the immunotherapy has caused rheumatoid arthritis, so I'm on a different chemo drug for that.
I've been told not to take live-virus vaccines, but the typical flu shot isn't one. I had my regular flu shot last week with no problem.
But...nobody knows how these new COVID-19 vaccines will work for folks with compromised immune systems or for those on immunotherapy drugs. For most diseases, you and I are protected by good old herd immunity - everyone else gets vaccinated and you and I are protected because the disease can't get a foothold.
I will probably get vaccinated, after long consultation with my oncologist and rheumatologist. I live with my 97-year-old mother, and I have to protect her. She plans to get vaccinated, too.
I hope we all come out the other side of this...
moonscape
(4,673 posts)maintenance chemo. There is more we need to know, but right now some specialists are telling their patients that the question is less side effects for us with the non-live vaccine than expectations as to how effective it will turn out to be for us.
We really need more information, but my inclination will be to get it but maintain vigilance and be one of the last to lose my mask.
FirstLight
(13,360 posts)I will be avoiding ppl and masking for a long time yet....
People such as yourself are why I've been following the guidelines+ since day one.
It's a human trait to protect the more vulnerable.
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)I hope to get mine as soon as possible.
LonePirate
(13,417 posts)Hekate
(90,645 posts)Him, I trust. Trump, not so much.
I will listen to Fauci and other scientists and follow their lead.
My husband and I are seniors, we both have asthma, and he's also diabetic. For those reasons and others, covid scares the crap out of me. We have both agreed to follow the science on this.
Beartracks
(12,809 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)Back when some one of the vaccines for one of the childhood diseases was first implemented, it was thought it would be a once and done vaccine. Then, when those first kids started college, there were outbreaks of that disease, and it was quickly realized that a booster was needed.
I honestly can't recall which one of those diseases was involved, but it wasn't a huge tragedy, and kids now get the two shots at the appropriate times.
Similarly, it was figured out that the original shingles vaccine only lasted about ten years. Now, there's a new 2-shot sequence which is thought to last the rest of a person's lifetime. I hope so, as I've just completed the two shot series.
If it turns out the Covid-19 vaccine needs to be given again, we'll all find out soon enough. But once a significant percent of the world's population has been vaccinated, things will get vastly better.
I'm old enough that when I used to travel outside of the United States, I had to show proof of a recent smallpox vaccination to get back into the country. I kept on losing the form that proved I'd had the vaccination, so kept on having to get a new one. After a while, the newest vaccine wouldn't "take", meaning it didn't show I'd developed the appropriate immunity. Luckily, that never kept me from travelling.
Hugin
(33,125 posts)I found it high up on my left arm. It has almost faded away, but, for my generation the scar was ubiquitous.
Do you remember getting the TB tests? Every year when I was a kid they'd prick me on the forearm with a four pronged blade and wait for a reaction. If there was a reaction off you'd go to quarantine and a round of probably some harsh antibiotic.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)the local hospital a decade ago.
Hugin
(33,125 posts)Since we were talking about smallpox also.
I had a Doctor who had this informal hobby she pursued during an exam. She would find a person's smallpox scar. She told me that it was her confirmation that she'd done a through exam and had her mind on what she was doing. She had a name for the scars I can't remember, but, it was a play on 'belly button'. Since everyone had one.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)And when it was you were growing up.
My mother always got a positive test for TB because when she was a nurse in training in the 1930s, she worked in a TB ward at some point. She never had an active case. but it showed up.
And regarding smallpox. The last outbreak in this country was in 1948. I recall reading that there was evidence that people who had had their last smallpox vaccination 50 years earlier were still protected. Wow.
In the 1970s, when I was doing a certain amount of international travel, we had to show proof of a recent (within the past 3 years I believe) smallpox vaccination. I kept on misplacing the yellow vaccination certificate that recorded such things, so I kept on having to get a new vaccination. After a while, the vaccination site simply didn't do anything.
I did just now look, and cannot find any evidence of a scar, which I remember clearly from my youth. Ah, age! It does bring certain benefits. I'm 72, if anyone actually cares.
Initech
(100,063 posts)LizBeth
(9,952 posts)First handful of months Fauci was appeasing Trump so says something but I trust my Dems.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)My only worry ever was that Trump was going to try to push an untested vaccine before the election to boost his chances. That didn't happen, mostly because pharma companies and health administration officials made it clear that there was no way a vaccine would be ready before the election. It might have actually had the opposite effect of having vaccine data held until after the election because once Trump politicized it, any data released would have been doubted. Releasing it after the election took the politicization aspect out of it.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)BGBD
(3,282 posts)The risk/reward is worth it to me.
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)We can easily debate getting the flu vaccine because, even in a bad year, the flu kills around 1 in 1,800 people infected.
Right now, COVID is taking around 1 in 40.
The risk assessment is radically different.
Highly contagious & quite deadly changes the calculus.
It sure does for me!
Obviously, you as well.
ShazzieB
(16,370 posts)Now the only thing I worry about is the waiting for our specific category of recipients to be vaccinated. I am a senior so hoping I dont have to wait more than another 6 months! Wish it could be much sooner but I do understand the need to vaccinate frontline people first. Patience is a virtue!
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 24, 2020, 10:14 AM - Edit history (1)
The wests lack of federated response doesn't mean people should pore into a unnecessarily rushed medical cure.
Just use common sense and do what the other countries that have defeated CV19 have done
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... in the past when vaccines where rushed bad stuff happened.
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... we can do what works and has worked, I don't understand the logic behind wanting to take a rushed out vaccine.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)And will the anti-vaxxers refuse in mass to take it? I can't imagine it can be mass produced on a scale to get everyone vaccinated before late spring. This has to be mass produced for the world. Does the raw material even exist for that to be possible?
Karma13612
(4,552 posts)It will be free.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Karma13612
(4,552 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Needle phobe here. Im already having nightmares about having to get this.
DrToast
(6,414 posts)A needle in the arm is better than a breathing tube down your throat.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)But I suffer from vasovagel syncope (from a childhood trauma) and I typically either faint or vomit.
So its really hard to stand in line at a CVS, etc. for a vaccination.
Karma13612
(4,552 posts)Pharmacy a few times.
I was seated each time. I think they do it to avoid people fainting, falling and hurting themselves.
I know that doesnt allay your phobia, and I know all about phobias, believe me!
Here is a story of how I got over my injection phobia:
I adored David McCallum (Illya Kuriakin spelling?) in the Man from Uncle, many decades ago when I was just a kid.
There was an episode where he got a shot in the arm just like for a vaccine. I watched it, and thought that if Illya was brave enuf, then so was I. Never had a problem after that. I wince, and close my eyes, relax the arm muscles, and remain calm. I know millions of people get shots, so I know I can be brave for a couple seconds.
Best of luck to you! I hope it works out because you do need to be protected!!
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)My issue stems from something much more insidious than just a fear of the needle itself unfortunately.
I keep reading about the microderm needles and hope that one day THAT will be the norm. In 62 years that Ive been alive, the delivery for vaccinations has basically not changed, so its truly time for science to catch up.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... says the other vaccines have gone through.
I'm far from an anti vaxxer but I see we have better choices than a rushed out vaccine that skips critical stages of approval.
Someone should square with us how this vaccine can skip time test that other vaccines have to go through
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)Better me than some kid.
But again, I do need some type of reasonable known possible side effects sheet. If there isn't one, then I'll take your advice
*Caution! This vaccine has been known to turn sane people into Trump supporters*
IsItJustMe
(7,012 posts)It's a risk reward type of thing. If there are any long term effects, which we probably won't know about for several years out, it will matter a lot more to younger people.
The problem is that there are so many variables involved. Different ages. Different people with different medical conditions. The list is exhausting if you think about it. I think that between Moderna and Pfizer, approx. 75,000 people have been vaccinated. That's a good sample, but that will not cover every variance out there.
marlakay
(11,451 posts)I trust her and will get the one she says is good. She gave me flu shot so she is not anti vax.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... I'm blown away at so many wanting to take a rushed vaccine vs pushing towards NPIs that other countries have used to successfully defeat CV19.
A high throughput testing process would damn near be half the solution.
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)because of the cold storage requirements.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... care enough thinking there's a vaccine that is made for wide distribution and its not.
We wont have a wide distribution vaccine till next summer, Biden has a lot of work to do.
I pray for all of them
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,369 posts)We may be better off than we thought. And pro tip: When someone attacks vaccines while saying they are not anti vaxx, it usually means they are anti vaxx.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)for any of the vaccines to be widely available than you might think. Especially if they are all a two-shot series.
I remember the swine flu vaccine fiasco very well. I will happily put myself at the end of the line for getting a Covid-19 vaccine. Let other people be the guinea pigs.
We still have not had the kind of detailed look at the trials and their results. That does not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling.
russiamommy
(244 posts)The studies are very encouraging. Assuming theyre all approved, I cant wait to get it. I really dont care which one - Ill take whichever I can get my hands on first. Maybe Im selfish, but I want my life back. And I dont see any way out of this mess without a broad-reaching vaccination project.