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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 10:00 AM Nov 2020

In 1864, Like in 2020, America Just Got Lucky. Sometimes, Americans barely avoid disaster.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/election-when-america-narrowly-avoided-disaster/617176/

NOVEMBER 22, 2020
Clint Smith

On the Monday following the election of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris to the White House, I made the short drive from my home in Maryland down to Washington, D.C., to visit the Lincoln Memorial. It was unseasonably warm for November, and I rolled up my sleeves as kayakers propelled their bodies forward on the river behind me. Just 48 hours before, every major U.S. news network had projected that Biden had won the presidency. That outcome—even though President Donald Trump and most Republican officials were (and still are) refusing to accept it—pulled the country back from continuing on what has been an ever more dangerous trajectory. For four years, Trump has, among other things, hammered away at government accountability, dismissed the reality of systemic racism, strained relationships with our allies overseas, eroded America’s commitment to human rights around the world and at home, and ignored and exacerbated the climate crisis. Four more years of his administration would have rendered the damage even worse than it currently is.

That possibility is why I was thinking of Lincoln. His bid for a second term in 1864 was another election that could have turned American history in a far more frightening direction. But for the good fortune and lucky timing of two battles that fell in the Union Army’s favor prior to the 1864 election, slavery might have been allowed to continue in exchange for peace with the Confederacy, and our country might look very different than it does. But then, as now (at least for the time being), the United States has managed to avoid a descent into immediate catastrophe. That events could so easily have turned out the other way, however, should make Americans wary of any notion that this country glides across time and space along a natural arc of progress. Our norms, our institutions, or our systems do not inevitably bend toward justice and protect us. That has been made clear. The truth is that, in some instances, we have simply been extremely lucky. And this month, even after a period of uncertainty, we were lucky again.

In the summer and early fall of 1864, Lincoln appeared to be on the brink of losing his bid for reelection. People across the country—or what remained of it—were tired of the Civil War. When hostilities began, many had initially assumed that it would be a relatively quick military exercise to put down the southern insurrection. But the war was now in its third year, and a Union victory was far from assured. The Confederacy was holding its capital of Richmond, Virginia; the bodies of young men who had joined the Union Army were piling up across the South; and the lists of the dead in northern newspapers were growing longer and longer. What’s more, following the Emancipation Proclamation, the war had become as much—if not more—about freeing enslaved people as it was about preserving the Union, a shift that didn’t sit well with many northerners.

Lincoln sensed that his support was diminishing, and quickly. “This morning, as for some days past, it seems exceedingly likely that this Administration will not be re-elected,” he wrote in a letter to his Cabinet in August 1864. “Then it will be my duty to so cooperate with the President elect, as to save the Union between the election and the inauguration; as he will have secured his election on such grounds that he cannot possibly save it afterwards.”

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In 1864, Like in 2020, America Just Got Lucky. Sometimes, Americans barely avoid disaster. (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Nov 2020 OP
2020 wasn't luck StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #1
Thank you. NurseJackie Nov 2020 #3
Merci! Mme. Defarge Nov 2020 #8
2020 is SO MUCH worse beachbumbob Nov 2020 #2
Excellent analogy. Thanks. I hope Biden quotes Lincoln's Second Inaugural "With malice toward yellowcanine Nov 2020 #4
Worth the read, thx /nt al bupp Nov 2020 #5
Oh, I dunno. I see more parallels with 1860. malthaussen Nov 2020 #6
I would have voted for McClellan in 1864. roamer65 Nov 2020 #7
Speaking of Lincoln JGladstone Nov 2020 #9
K&R for visibility. crickets Nov 2020 #10

Mme. Defarge

(8,014 posts)
8. Merci!
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 11:13 AM
Nov 2020

My first thought before getting to the comments. Our election was a triumph, with states changing their election systems on short notice in the middle of a pandemic to accommodate the largest voter turnout in our history. The top Trump election security official stated that it was the most secure election in our history. And our international friends rejoiced with us when the results were finally called. AND THE JUDICIARY HAS HELD!

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
2. 2020 is SO MUCH worse
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 10:10 AM
Nov 2020

and not a simple "win the war" against the south. We have a govt in huge debt and running monstrous deficits, we have a splintered american electorate with little that can be done, we have propaganda outlets every where we look that can;t be controlled. Throw in a pandemic, a GOP senate control, a 6-3 conservative SC. Without any GOP help, we will languish andthey have NO reason to help at all.

1864 was cake walk

yellowcanine

(35,694 posts)
4. Excellent analogy. Thanks. I hope Biden quotes Lincoln's Second Inaugural "With malice toward
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 10:11 AM
Nov 2020

none, and charity toward all" in his inaugural address.

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
6. Oh, I dunno. I see more parallels with 1860.
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 10:37 AM
Nov 2020

I'd argue that we should keep that in mind: there is no "quick fix," and America is not going to be fixed overnight just because Joe Biden has turned the light of his countenance on us.

-- Mal

 

JGladstone

(42 posts)
9. Speaking of Lincoln
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 12:36 PM
Nov 2020

“Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration.”

― Abraham Lincoln


Unfortunately, private capital controls the government. The government does not control private capital. "The Lincoln Project" will not be looking to change that in any way. Will a Joe Biden administration and the Democratic Party change that setup? History and the working class await an answer.

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