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Can American citizens who lost loved ones to Covid sue the Killa Con for lying about (Original Post) malaise Nov 2020 OP
Ive asked the same question here. It should absolutely be allowed. onecaliberal Nov 2020 #1
I hope the answer is yes to a massive class action suit. RobertDevereaux Nov 2020 #2
Pretty sure sophists covered his position & their own SheltieLover Nov 2020 #3
That Woodward interview could destroy all of their covers malaise Nov 2020 #5
Yes, but as with police, SheltieLover Nov 2020 #6
Nope. There's a legal doctrine of discretionary governmental immunity, The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #4
There it is: the golden language they love. Zero liability SheltieLover Nov 2020 #7
There's a reason for the principle, though, which is The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #11
I hear you and I get that but malaise Nov 2020 #8
We just did hold him accountable. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2020 #9
Thanks - Scary - you can only vote out a mass murderer malaise Nov 2020 #10
Nope, not possible beachbumbob Nov 2020 #12
I'll be there. jaysunb Nov 2020 #13
I'm with you malaise Nov 2020 #14

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
6. Yes, but as with police,
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 05:37 PM
Nov 2020

If scum has premptively absolved of liability, then not possible.

They are really great at this sort of thing.

Like giving themselves the world's best healthcare package while citizens get little to no coverage.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,658 posts)
4. Nope. There's a legal doctrine of discretionary governmental immunity,
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 05:32 PM
Nov 2020

which means you can't sue a government official for making discretionary decisions in his official capacity. Anyway, he doesn't have any actual money; and even if he did, it wouldn't be enough.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,658 posts)
11. There's a reason for the principle, though, which is
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 05:53 PM
Nov 2020

that if a government official is sued successfully for something he did in his official capacity, the government - meaning us taxpayers - picks up the tab. The point is to protect taxpayers from bad official decisions, while not constantly second-guessing every government decision. I used to teach this stuff, and the example I usually used was this:

Despite a number of accidents at a particular intersection in a town, the city council decides not to put in a stoplight because they concluded there wasn't enough money in the town's budget to install and maintain it, because the impeded traffic flow would cause more congestion, and because they examined the statistics and concluded the stoplight wouldn't prevent many accidents. But after another accident the victim sues the city, alleging the accident could have been prevented if they'd agreed to install a stoplight. The city council is protected by discretionary immunity because it was acting in its official capacity and its decision was discretionary, based on their evaluation of the circumstances.

If, however, the stoplight had been approved but city employees installed it incorrectly and it malfunctioned and was a contributing cause of an accident, the plaintiff could sue the city for negligence because the installation would have been a ministerial act, which did not involve the exercise of discretion and the city would therefore not be immune from liability.

malaise

(268,846 posts)
8. I hear you and I get that but
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 05:39 PM
Nov 2020

does it mean that he can tell the public one thing and then be recorded saying the opposite and still not be held accountable?

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