****OFFICIAL DEBATE THREAD #3*****

[Honeycombe8]

Let's go to this one.

[WinkyDink]

1. I can't believe Romney just INTERRUPTED Obama!

[bdamomma]

6. the guy has

NO CLASS

[Auntie Bush]

38. The guy is a bully!

[GreenPartyVoter]

102. I wish Obama would step up and say, this is my time. I will let you know when I am done speaking.

[pansypoo53219]

180. he did so, so politely you did not notice.

[GreenPartyVoter]

184. But did Romney heed it, or blather on?

[taterguy]

2. Let's not

[Honeycombe8]

3. Ouch. Obama's off his game. He's gotten in some good points, tho. Still...... nt

[budkin]

7. No, h's staying calm while Romney is going insane.

This is nuts.

[WinkyDink]

32. Americans like aggression in their leaders.

[GaYellowDawg]

116. Unfortunately, that's right - Americans will perceive aggressive and wrong as "winning"

and they will perceive less aggression as passive and "losing." It looks like the President is starting to catch on fire a little. He sure as hell needs to.

[Honeycombe8]

187. No one knows a statement is wrong if the other debater doesn't tell them so. nt

[reflection]

24. You're right.

He's back to stammering and pausing. Thankfully he's got the truth on his side.

[Honeycombe8]

33. I have to believe that the truth matters. It does. nt

[riderinthestorm]

4. Thank you!!! Dialup users bless you!! nt

[DisabledAmerican]

5. I can't believe people are trying to say outside these threads

Romney is winning. All Romney is doing is lies and interrupting people. If that is what a President is then I do not think he would be a good one. Obama's been calm and collective throughout the whole debate hitting Romney on a lot of issues and keeping his cool.

[HuckleB]

9. Exactly. He's giving Obama LOTS of material for the coming days.

Lies don't work.

[budkin]

11. Totally, Romney looks like a social path... this is not going to play well with people n/t

[bdamomma]

15. Romney is total BS

he is rather manic isn't he????

[hifiguy]

29. Meth tweeker on coke.

A concatenation of bullshit on stilts and steroids.

[FirstLight]

35. i was thinking the same thing

[Exen Trik]

27. Expectations

We know he is prone to screwing the pooch, so him acting almost competent is disappointing. I'd agree that Obama is being a little too polite given Romneys attitude, but its a long debate still. I hope that Obama makes a harder push sometimes in the second half though.

[VespertineIconoclast]

8. Rmoney is trying to force PBO to explain R/R's plan. n/t

[laruemtt]

18. that pic is going to give me nightmares!

thanks a lot! it needs a a warning.

[Sparkly]

10. The Medicare Fairy!!!!

[BarackTheVote]

12. He's agreeing with Obama vis a vis his madicare plan!

Parents don't love their children. When people get old, they get selfish. Right, RMoney?

[tilsammans]

13. He is SO FUCKING SMARMY!

Trotting out that Medicare lie over and over again.

[Tsiyu]

16. Obama keeps patiently explaining TEH MATHS n/t

[onecent]

14. God Romney is a fucking liar

[Tsiyu]

22. Rmoney is a bully!!!!

Bully!!!!

[KansDem]

17. "Competition" in the Medicare world?

Don't you mean "Cartels," Governor?

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

26. My 89 year old mother doesn't want "competition"

She wants "security."

[Honeycombe8]

52. Sure. Ins. cos. are lining up to insure 80 year olds. Not.That's why there's Medicare to begin with!

[zazen]

19. it seems like Romney is setting/controlling fast pace

On a purely formal level, I'd like Obama to slow way down to illustrate more of the difference between them. He seems like he's reacting, like he's more on Romney's level.

[Tsiyu]

30. He has a lot to include in 1 or 2 minutes n/t

[DisabledAmerican]

31. Romney isn't setting or controlling the debate he's interrupting the debate

He's being RUDE and disrespectful to the mod of the debate. Romney is trying to have the last word on everything and being a spoiled child during the debate. It's like watching a temper tantrum.

[zazen]

39. I hope Obama slows down even more then--so Romney looks like a baby

[WinkyDink]

50. Romney is the aggressor, and will be, however reality-based or not, declared "winner."

[RoccoR5955]

20. How is Robme winning?

EVERYTHING HE HAS BEEN SAYING IS A LIE!

[Honeycombe8]

28. WE know that. A lot of people watching this don't. R knows it. nt

[D23MIURG23]

93. I don't think he is. He seems desperate and weird and Obama seems uncomfortable IMO.

[Honeycombe8]

21. O's on solid ground with his Medicare points. He feels deeply about it. Oh, Romney's interrupting

again.

[tarheelsunc]

23. Can't tell if Romney is a participant or the moderator

[reflection]

42. Yes he's pissing me off with the way

Lehrer is letting him run over him. Obama is too much of a gentleman.

[grntuscarora]

44. my thought too.

Rmoney's handling both jobs. Trying to anyway.

[D23MIURG23]

107. You can smell his superiority complex. The rules don't apply to him, he owns them. n/t

[LuckyLib]

25. Romney is a bully. A straight out obnoxious bully.

[Tsiyu]

45. "Lettuce-slation" he just sez

Rmoney is rabid and too much a bully.

He would have us in WWIII in absolutely 2 seconds.

Bullying an elderly, distinguished journalist?

C'mon!

[tilsammans]

34. Mitt, SHUDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDUUUUUUUUUUUUUP!!!

[Auntie Bush]

92. That's what I just yelled out and woke up my dog.

Now she wants to go out. Damn...I want to watch this. Although Robme is so irritating! I can't wait for him to shut up!

[Sparkly]

36. He's going to complain about "too big to fail???"

omg

[gkhouston]

37. If Romney talks any faster, he'll auction off his podium by mistake. n/t

[llmart]

43. I just laughed out loud and I'm by myself.....

[Grown2Hate]

72. HAHAHA! My roommate is making that his status. TOO good. :)

[llmart]

40. I think Romney is looking like a total jerk.....

constantly trying to control JL. I still say he's on something. Keep arguing with JL.

[amandabeech]

41. Lehrer simply can't keep this debate fair.

It's all Rmoney! He's just dominating.

Obama seems almost like an afterthought here!

[lavenderdiva]

53. Obama needs to assert himself more when Mitt keeps going

and Lehrer would do well to turn off Mitt's mike (if only he could), when Mitt goes over his timelimit or interrupts, both of which he is doing frequently.

[Tsiyu]

54. I disagree Rmoney seems like a boorish Ugly American n/t

[amandabeech]

81. And the audience for this debate is??????

[Tsiyu]

156. People who have been run over by his type

Rmoney is the sort who crushes businesses.

He is a ruthless Frat Boy

He will not appeal to "polite moderates"

[WinkyDink]

55. No, he cannot.

[NYC Liberal]

46. Leher finally took control.

Romney tried to run over him again saying "No let's talk about this" and Leher said "No, let's not. "

[KewlKat]

47. Is anyone fucking moderating this debate?

enough already Lehrer.....GROW SOME AND MODERATE THIS DEBATE.

[hifiguy]

56. He's trying

without success.

[tarheelsunc]

62. He's not trying, he lets Romney talk all over him without pressing on

[Lizzie Poppet]

83. Agreed. He's being weak and ineffectual.

The net result is that Romney's being allowed to dominate the proceedings because he's willing to be a boorish lout while the President is behaving in a civil manner.

[uponit7771]

75. I don't think he's even trying, he ask questions and doesn't get clear answers as if he was on talk

...show

[BlueInPhilly]

48. WITH REGARDS????!!!!!!!!!!!!

ROMNEY JUST SAID "WITH REGARDS"?

With regard
In regard
As regards

PS - Oh, and Obama doesn't seem to have it tonight

[hifiguy]

49. I didn't think it was possible for me to dislike

Willard more but I am managing to. The Imperial Grand Poohbah of Assholes.

[FirstLight]

51. Why is Jim L not stopping romney's rants?

he needs to stand up and shut the fucker down

[Tsiyu]

60. Agreed - he's trying to lend some dignity to the uncivilized Rmoney

[tarheelsunc]

57. The asswipe cut Obama off again! WTF is Jim doing allowing this?

[demo dutch]

58. Lehrer is lame

[Honeycombe8]

59. Oh, Romney's interrupting again. He has to "instruct" Obama on the facts. nt

[KewlKat]

61. anyone tracking how much time each candidate has been given to speak

The President is being respectful and Mitt is controlling the podium.

[tarheelsunc]

71. CNN says Obama 25m, Romney 24m

[Honeycombe8]

118. I hope some media outlet is. Who knew it would be a free for all? nt

[WinkyDink]

63. AGAIN, Lehrer (and O.) allows Romney TO INTERRUPT!!!!!!!! "All right, All right"--Lehrer the WEAK.

[Hamlette]

64. Romney is killing Obama

This is not the type of forum that works for Obama. Romney is doing the alpha dog thing and dominating both Leher and Obama. Damn

[StarryNite]

73. Yup

[WinkyDink]

77. Sadly agree.

[Blue_Roses]

82. Romney is bullying...not the same thing

he's so desperate to not show his lies he's appearing desperate. Nope Obama is doing just fine

[Sparkly]

105. Romney sounds slick, but that's all.

Is that "killing?" Really? He sounds rehearsed, memorized.

[WinkyDink]

65. LEHRER IS PATHETICALLY WEAK AS MODERATOR.

[llmart]

76. agreed

[Sparkly]

66. ACA -- can't wait. Starting out with the emotional lines.

[Flatpicker]

67. I think Obama is doing ok.

He's letting Romney spout off and then responding with reason and facts.

It's not exciting, but, necessary.

[Tsiyu]

89. I agree

Obama seems like a statesman

Rmoney seems like everybody's smarmy asshole boss.

[llmart]

68. Romney is making up all these "people" he's met and talked to.....

liar

[WinkyDink]

79. Liars lie!

[lavenderdiva]

69. how is Mitt able to go first in 2 consecutive segments?

I thought they were going to alternate

[1-Old-Man]

70. I don't know what debate you all are watching, Obama is absolutely kicking ass!

He is dead on the facts and opposed to Romney's appeals to emotion. Obama is kicking ass.

[tarheelsunc]

85. He would be if Mitt Romney knew how to take turns

Sadly Romney has looked a lot better because he cuts in and doesn't allow Obama to make his points, and asswipe Jim just lets him do it. This debate has a lack of leadership.

[WinkyDink]

91. This is TV. Appeals to emotion resonate. E.g., Mitt's "I just met..." Obama: "I had those same

coversations." NO PARTICULARS, even though Romney is likely LYING with his!

Since when do Americans prefer FACTS to EMOTIONS?!

[Duppers]

174. exactly

[Sparkly]

74. I feel like standing up and cheering Obama right now -- C'mon, c'mon, hit this one out of the park!!

[Sparkly]

78. yeah it's all about whether YOU feel like HIRING people...!!!!

[antigop]

80. Obama should have schooled Romney on why Medicare was put in in the first place.

Because the private market didn't work.

[blakeholtz]

90. sadly - most Americans watching don't know/care

[kerouac2]

84. Mitt=fired up, Obama=sedate.

What happened to Fired Up? He just let mitt have a 1 hour campaign rally in front of 50 million people. Most of which will never see ANY fact checks...

[WinkyDink]

99. The energy levels are sadly disparate.

[obamanut2012]

120. No, he didn't

[Flatpicker]

86. Is Mitt pro regulation or anti?

He's trying to straddle both sides of the road.

[llmart]

87. Romney looks fake...

Obama looks real AND presidential.

[desertduck]

124. Romney is incapable of sincerity. It is no wonder that people don't like him.

[superpatriotman]

88. States rights! Bullshit

I don't trust the leaders of my backwater state to run a treadmill let alone healthcare.

[kerouac2]

94. Oh no. Don't give romney credit for obamacare...

Here it comes...

[WinkyDink]

95. EF YOU, Lehrer. You have "guts" only with Obama and HIS time.

[StarryNite]

96. Motherfucking LEHRER !

He let's romney do whatever he wants and stops Obama short!

[laruemtt]

103. Lehrer = worst moderator of all time. i'd even call it treasonous.

[StarryNite]

114. Absolutely!

He needs to retire himself.

[DisabledAmerican]

106. Do not worry Obama will come out better from this

He's calm and has not lost his anger over it. It shows someone who is Presidential. I would vote in a heart beat for Obama.

[WinkyDink]

111. This is America you're in, right? "Calm" ain't a revered trait.

[Duppers]

119. +100

[high density]

97. So Republicans in MA voted for something that Republicans in DC wouldn't vote for

I don't know why that matters, Willard.

[BarackTheVote]

98. Obstructionist Republicans obstructing proves what, exactly?!

[high density]

108. That's what I want to know

[panAmerican]

99. Irritated

I'm not seeing the "what's in it for me" from this debate. Just the same points that I've heard made before by surrogates.

[JudyM]

101. Lehrer is really useless tonight and his questions are not high quality.

[Tsiyu]

104. How can you "not cut" something you don't have?

Americans "don't want medicare ...er...Obamacare".....freudian slip

[Mr. Sparkle]

109. Mitt looks like he has bloodshot eyes. kinda creepy.

[riderinthestorm]

110. PLEASE START A NEW #4 DEBATE THREAD! nt

[BarackTheVote]

112. ZING! "Democrats in Mass could have given the Republicans in congress some advice

on his to be bipartisan"

[llmart]

113. Nice zinger from Obama....

about the obstructionism of Repugs in Congress.

[kerouac2]

115. My Zinger: With all due respect, the Governor lives in la-la land... nt

[kerouac2]

125. "Since When?" is what O should say when M says his plan has stuff it didn't have last week.

ie: healthcare stuff /pre exist cond, kids til 26, etc.

[WinkyDink]

117. I wish Big Dawg Bill were facing Mitt. Mitt would be CRYING for MERCY about now.

[grntuscarora]

121. How can Rmoney talk about bipartisanship

with a straight face?? Rethugs evidently are confused on the definition.

[trailmonkee]

122. Obama needs to crank up the conviction....

[Sparkly]

123. Keeping dependents on your care is "included" because it's not regulated....

OMG -- what a dishonest jerk!!!

[JudyM]

126. Stupid arrogant smile reminds me of Bush's debate demeanor.

Wish the Prez would wipe that smug smile off Mitt's face.

[blakeholtz]

130. agreed

the whining reminds me of an ill-behaved toddler

[JudyM]

144. Ha! Toddler. A big welcome to DU, Blakeholtz!

[BarackTheVote]

127. We HAD insurance companies competing

how did that work out for us, Mitt?

[bdamomma]

128. Romney

is all into private enterprises I do not like him at all.

[Tsiyu]

140. His shiny preacher hair is clownish

Lehrer is just letting Rmoney go


sad.....Rmoney CANNOT play by the rules.

[Nevernose]

131. POTUS's main problem is he won't say "That's a motherfucking lie"

I know why, but still

[WinkyDink]

139. Heh!

[liberal N proud]

132. Obama is Clintonesque in his responses.

[BarackTheVote]

133. I wonder how busy Romney's serrogates are gonna be tomorrow

trying to reassure the base in all their little holes and crevasses that most of what he said tonight was just to get the middle and he doesn't really believe any of it

[RoccoR5955]

134. Zinger: Rmoney has no details of any of his plans! n/t

[high density]

135. FINALLY

Thanks Obama for bringing this up.

[uponit7771]

137. ****FUCK JIM!!! JUST TALK THROUGH HIM!!!**** DAMN DUDE!!!

[valerief]

136. POTUS is itemizing all Mittsy's "secret" plans!!!! nt

[blakeholtz]

148. Is it a secret? because it is so awesome??

omg that was perfect

[valerief]

185. Thank you for your concern. nt

[tarheelsunc]

138. Another Mitteruption

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

141. Fuck lerher for not moderating.

[susanwy]

142. NO NO NO

Jim - HE DOES NOT get to respond and get the last word on every question or rebuttal....I may be out a TV tonight!

[ballabosh]

160. Seriously!

This is fucked up! Obama needs to do want Romney did on the first question and demand the last word.

[BarackTheVote]

143. FUUUUUUUUUUCK LEHRER!

Romney is not ENTITLED TO THE LAST WORD!!!!!!

[uponit7771]

145. ****FUCK JIM!!! JUST TALK THROUGH HIM!!!**** DAMN DUDE!!!

[Sparkly]

146. "Not a secret, but there are alternatives... and then other alternatives... and, alternatives..."

[WinkyDink]

147. "Simplify." Americans like that word. OMG: "THAT is a terrific segue."

[StarryNite]

149. Fuck you Lehrer!

[nc4bo]

150. why does lehrer keep giving mitt the last fucking word!!! nm

[Sparkly]

151. Bets on Rmoney's use of "socialist," "redistribution," "Europe" (or specific European countries)...?

[blakeholtz]

152. whistle on 's' on O's mike?

I'm hearing a weird whistling noise on O's microphone - is that universal??

[PCIntern]

157. Nice post!

[eqfan592]

162. I love Ar-15's as well, but you're a fucking moron.

Bye

[efhmc]

164. Made me laugh. Usual small brain repug expression of his best thoughts.

[Flatpicker]

154. The private market isn't always best.

Historically, we've seen that.

[riderinthestorm]

155. PLEASE GO TO NEW #4 DEBATE THREAD! nt

[Digit]

172. Yeah, Go to Hell, Mitt!

[Fearless]

158. The role of government is useless a topic to the average American

[sfpcjock]

159. Romney a LBO Weasel in every pot!

He's really full of it

[Auphold2]

161. Sorry...we're losing big time

I love him.
I support him.
I will continue to work hard for his re-election.
My spouse and I have already made two five-figure donations to him in this cycle and will likely donate more.
But let's keep it real folks...PRESIDENT OBAMA IS LOSING THIS DEBATE.

[Generic Brad]

168. Take your b.s. somewhere else one post guy

[JudyM]

176. I'm afraid i agree with 1-post guy. For the average person, Rmoney's looking better.

And the Prez keeps stumbling and his points aren't punchy enough to get noticed. I feel kind of sick in my stomach. He's way better than this! Must be off his game because of how Rmoney's changing his 'plan' and how Lehrer keeps kissing up to him.

[Auphold2]

182. I know, right?

I honestly have been fighting hard for POTUS this year, but I would like him to go more on the attack.

[Squinch]

169. I sort of don't believe a word you say. Much like I don't believe Mitt.

[Auphold2]

179. I'm not being snarky. I REALLY AM sincere.

Please believe me. I am VERY sincere. Everything I said is absolutely true.
I really want him to win!
But why isn't he going on the attack?!
It's frustrating!
So many things he could attack, but he's not.
Why??
There are TONS of things he could be more aggressive about.

[desertduck]

165. Obama is keeping his own...but his delivery could be better

I say this b/c, again, romney is unpalatable. I don't see alpha. I see anger and manic.

[randome]

173. Yeah, that's what I saw, too.

Obama could have crushed him and I wish he had but he didn't 'lose' the debate.

[Auphold2]

186. Good enough

Obviously, we're all on the same team here. And I'll concede that "losing" may have been a little bit of hyperbole on my part. But please know that I'm passionate about this, and the basis of my hyperbole is my desire for POTUS to punch a little harder. The opportunities have certainly been there.

[Digit]

166. Even tho Leher is favoring Rmoney, Rmoney is losing this one

His lies are over the top and his smarmy manner is disgusting.

[Hamlette]

167. Obama needs to take lessons from Clinton....fast!

can we have pinch debaters?

[bdamomma]

170. shut up Romney???????

manic!!!!!!!!!!!

[BarackTheVote]

171. The Government IS the people, Romney! nt

[Loudestlib]

175. What happen to the treading block?

[Digit]

177. Leher is a disgrace

He is trying to help Rmoney.

Let Rmoney fail!

[sfpcjock]

178. R-money just harvests government spending big time

for himself and his billionaire friends. You'd be happy, too.

[sfpcjock]

183. R-money met every Monday in Mass -- because his door was locked the rest of the time

It's been documented. You see how he weasel words everything he says tonight.

[Digit]

181. Did anyone catch that Rmoney quote..."Where you put your money tells where your heart is?"

Um, yeah Mittster, we KNOW where your money (heart) is like the Cayman Islands.....