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The New York Times published an article titled: "Can America Restore the Rule of Law Without Prosecuting Trump." The answer to that question can be gleaned from the first two statutes of Title 18 of the U.S. Criminal Code: 1 Principals and 2....
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Kid Berwyn
(14,862 posts)And their dog, Devin, too.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)The blindfold: justice requires each person to be treated equally, no matter who they are. But the balancing scale: justice also requires balancing the good resulting from a judgment against the harm which the judgment causes. We chose not to prosecute a hitman, Sammy the Bull Gravano, which obviously violated the equal treatment principle, because giving him a pass permitted us to get testimony from him which jailed the boss, John Gotti. We sometimes violate the rule of equal treatment of all to produce a result which is good for the the public. In my opinion jailing Trump might cause the public great harm by causing a hundred million delusional Trump supporters to turn against our government, causing great harm to us all. Manaforts previous client, Victor Yanukovich, jailed the prime minister he defeated, Yulia Tymoshenko. Since everyone in Ukraine was crooked I think she may have been guilty. But her supporters went completely berserk, launching civil war. Yanukovich had to flee for his life, ending up in Moscow. Russia exploited the conflict by invading the eastern part of Ukraine, seizing valuable ports which it still controls. A huge number of people died in the conflict. The economy suffered. Yes, it may have been just to jail Yulia but it was a huge mistake, it caused huge numbers to suffer. That was not justice in a bigger scheme. I worry that jailing Trump, which he deserves just like Sammy the Bull deserved, risks costing all of us too much, a country which lacks public support.
KS Toronado
(17,187 posts)If our new DOJ starts by going after the people on the bottom of the ladder and works it's way to
the top (donnie Hair-Doo), wouldn't voters see months of un-American wrong doings from his
loyalists and enablers and know that he should be prosecuted as well?
Lock him up.
(6,925 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,269 posts)becomes a potential Grand Jury witness that can't take the 5th.
Mr.Bill
(24,269 posts)I'm sure Michael Flynn has lots to tell us.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)A civil war will not be started over the prosecution of trump. There may be a small number of lunatics who will try it but they will quickly be put down.
We are not a former Soviet Block country. The fact that Joe Biden is president elect says it all.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)I hope you are right. But would your have joined an effort to overthrow the Trump administration if he jailed Clinton and Obama? You would have just said, oh well, thats life? Really? Remember, Trump supporters really believe that Trump won the election. That Biden benefitted from a great crime. Add to that the delusion that we are falsely putting him in jail, millions will start armed Revolution, in my opinion. How many deaths of innocent people will change your mind? Is jailing Trump worth a five percent chance of ten thousand deaths? Or a 25% chance of 50 million completely losing faith in the US government? Ukraine broke apart, for real. You dont think it could happen here too?
Jarqui
(10,122 posts)to authoritarian rule.
They'll try again.
Behavior like that has to be punished.
Laws need to be put into place such that this can never happen again.
The rationale with Nixon was not wanting to divide the country.
BS.
You nail these people so that this never happens again because Trump flirted with taking the country into a civil war.
Finish the job.
Nail it down so that history does not repeat itself.
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)I quite agree with your sentiments.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)Response to UCmeNdc (Original post)
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TeamPooka
(24,218 posts)jalan48
(13,855 posts)I think we're going to hear a lot of talk about healing and moving on and not setting the precedent of prosecuting an outgoing President. We didn't see prosecution about Bush/Cheney torture directives in 2009, why would it be different now?