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Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
1. What we know about Velveeta Voldemort....
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:50 PM
Nov 2020

I wouldn't put it past him. His legacy is one of great harm already. He is out to do as much harm as he can to "get even" for him not winning.

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
2. Of course, he'd do it on Turkey Day
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:51 PM
Nov 2020

One thing he probably won't be doing is visiting overseas troops and serving them meals.

And if Trump starts a world war on his way out, he should be impeached and prosecuted for freakin everything.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. Doubt it. Everyone has been expecting him to start a war since 2015.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:00 PM
Nov 2020

Either he, and/or his advisers, know it would be another loser for him.

dware

(12,374 posts)
4. Even if he is,
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:06 PM
Nov 2020

I can say, with 100% certainty, that the JCoS are forcefully and vigorously arguing against a strike against Iran, and even if they can't talk him out of it, there are unofficial ways to disobey an order without actually disobeying an order.

Trust me on this, I spent 35 years in the USMC, a large part as an NCO, and, on occasion, I would do so, you just got to know how to do it without being obvious, as I'm quite confident the Officers Corps are very aware of how to do this.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. They haven't failed us yet, not enormously anyway.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:31 PM
Nov 2020

There can't be one who hasn't tried to foresee, constantly as this presidency has evolved, what they'd be faced with in this period.

dware

(12,374 posts)
12. I've no doubt that the JCoS have already been on communication
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:35 PM
Nov 2020

with the Bider/Harris team about this and plans are already in place to "gum" up the logistical side of this if it actually happens.
That's one of the ways to disobey without actually disobeying, things like certain equipment gets "lost", etc.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Any communication would have to be completely
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:41 PM
Nov 2020

within the law. Trump is commander in chief until 12:01 January 21, and any interference by Biden would be... Well, something he and they would never do.

But as you say, there are ways for the military itself to act and not act without going outside the chain of command.

Reminds me of Trump declaring he was ordering the Navy to dump the, what $1.5 billiion?, replacement of hydraulic launches on carriers with "digital". The top brass seemingly were blindsided by Trump's enthusiasm for massive "steam" ejaculations of missiles. "You know the steam is just brutal. You see that sucker going and steam’s going all over the place, there’s planes thrown in the air.”

dware

(12,374 posts)
14. Absolutely!!!
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:45 PM
Nov 2020

I didn't mean to imply that anything discussed by the JCoS and the Biden team be outside of the law, sorry if that's how I came across.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. Sure. I just looked and saw pentagon/DoD "transition outreach"
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:56 PM
Nov 2020

to Biden team beginning now that the GSA has stopped blocking the transition. And whatever.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
6. My worst-case scenario...
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:14 PM
Nov 2020

...has always been for Twitler, after every other attempt to overturn the election has failed, to start a war with Iran and declare a state of emergency suspending the Constitution in response to “serious, credible terror threats.”

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
10. It will be Israel covertly supported by KSA. That's why Netanyahu went to see MBS
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:24 PM
Nov 2020

Oh we'll be dragged in but the Mideast players will start it imo

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