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PTWB

(4,131 posts)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:28 PM Nov 2020

The fantasy of President-elect Biden's DOJ prosecuting Trump is just that - fantasy.

Trump will not leave office without pardoning himself (and issuing a blanket pardon to his administration) or issuing the blanket pardon, resigning, and having Mike Pence pardon him. He simply isn’t going to leave office without limiting his Federal legal vulnerabilities.

He will sell his self-pardon and the blanket pardon for his administration as stopping the next “witch hunt” before it gets started.

This will be a blessing in disguise for Biden. He isn’t going to have to tangle with the messy issues surrounding prosecuting the former President.

Trump’s real legal liabilities will be in various state courts.

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The fantasy of President-elect Biden's DOJ prosecuting Trump is just that - fantasy. (Original Post) PTWB Nov 2020 OP
Bookmarked. onenote Nov 2020 #1
Pardons or no pardons, I hope some sort of Truth Commission is established... First Speaker Nov 2020 #2
Trump still faces state level chares via multitude of investigations. I think that's prevailing uponit7771 Nov 2020 #3
That's like leaving PPE up to the States Ponietz Nov 2020 #4
SDNY is part of the DOJ. meadowlander Nov 2020 #5
I'm a bit confused by your reply. PTWB Nov 2020 #8
Unrec. Kingofalldems Nov 2020 #6
Thank you! PTWB Nov 2020 #7
That's demoralizing. Thanks so much for expressing your concern. nt Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2020 #9
What concern? PTWB Nov 2020 #10
About what you describe as our "fantasies". Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2020 #11
Oh, I'm not concerned about anyone's fantasies. PTWB Nov 2020 #12
That's what got me. Kingofalldems Nov 2020 #13

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
2. Pardons or no pardons, I hope some sort of Truth Commission is established...
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:40 PM
Nov 2020

.,..anywhere: Congress, the DOJ, a Special Counsel, anybody. We need to *know* what the last five years has done to our country. Get the facts established, from Putin on down. That to me is more important than sending these miserable rabble to prison...

uponit7771

(90,323 posts)
3. Trump still faces state level chares via multitude of investigations. I think that's prevailing
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:58 PM
Nov 2020

... thought on justice for Putin's Whore

Ponietz

(2,955 posts)
4. That's like leaving PPE up to the States
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 06:21 PM
Nov 2020

It’s now or never. Use it or lose it. Confrontation is inevitable in any event and best ASAP.

meadowlander

(4,393 posts)
5. SDNY is part of the DOJ.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 06:30 PM
Nov 2020

They went to a lot of trouble to get Trump's tax returns so let's see what shakes out of them on January 21st.

It's not "Biden's" DOJ, it's the American peoples' DOJ. I think that's a distinction that needs to be emphasised after four years of Trump abusing the Department for his own ends.

The Attorney General's job is to enforce the law impartially and to support the district prosecutors in their pursuit of justice. If there are state crimes, which there obviously will be, the the DOJ via SNDY (and EDV, et al) will be pursuing them.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
8. I'm a bit confused by your reply.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 06:47 PM
Nov 2020
If there are state crimes, which there obviously will be, the the DOJ via SNDY (and EDV, et al) will be pursuing them.


Could you clarify what you mean by this?

SDNY does not investigate or prosecute state crimes. When Trump is pardoned by Pence (or by himself, assuming it holds up), he will have no Federal legal liabilities. SDNY is Federal.
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